Timewave Zero

Re: Timewave Zero

Fri, 21 May 2010 18:50:43 +0000

Never heard of Timewave Zero.

To me, it sounds like an extremely bad science fiction movie.

I Ching is not Chinese "software", it is an ancient Chinese fortune-telling method of some sort. And it has nothing to do with 2012, either.

Re: Timewave Zero

Fri, 21 May 2010 00:11:07 +0000

I've only had a quick look at this so don't take it as a definitive answer. The I-Ching is an ancient Chinese system of fortune-telling. One part of this is a set of 64 symbols known as hexagrams. Each hexagram consists of 6 lines, some continuous, some broken. By arranging these in a particular sequence and noting the numerical differences in the arrangement of the lines between successive hexagrams, a sequence of 384 numbers (384 = 64 x 6) was obtained.
This sequence was then superimposed on a mathematical series to give another list of numbers. Each number was then assigned to a date and the value of that number was said to indicate the particular 'novelty' of that date.

It seems to me that there are two basic flaws in this:
1) The mathematical process is entirely abstract and not related to anything in the natural world.
2) It's necessary to fix a 'zero date' to overlay this graph of novelty on the calendar. You can choose any zero date you find convenient.

So what do we have? A graph of connected points, rising and falling to showing the novelty on any particular date. It's then necessary to look at historical events and try to assign high or low novelty to particularly momentous dates. Terence McKenna (the originator of Timewave Zero) noted a point of low novelty and assigned it to the date of the Hiroshima atomic bomb. 67.29 years after this, the graph reached a zero point, which would have been in November 2012. When McKenna heard of the Mayan Long Count rollover date, he promptly moved his timewave zero plot to make the December 2012 rollover date fit.
So it's a series of numbers generated by an abstract mathematical formula, inherently unconnected to any natural event and open to 'interpretation' (or more accurately 'fiddling') in order to obtain the desired result.

In summary - an interesting variation on numerological nonsense, but nonsense just the same.
Predictive ability = zero.

Re: Timewave Zero

Thu, 20 May 2010 23:58:11 +0000

To be honest, I've never heard of Timewave Zero, until now, but the others like Alene and Astro may be able to help you out with this one.
For the fear, just overcome it by living day to day and pay less attention to the rumors and theories surrounding 2012 and soon you will be fear-free, until something else (hopefully not 2012 related) scares you.

Timewave Zero

Thu, 20 May 2010 20:59:53 +0000

Hey everyone.

The rumor about the end of the world has been bothering me for a few months now, ever since a boy in my class (7th grade) told me he saw a movie in some sort of a scientific channel proving 2012 to be true. Even though I read informative sites like yours and realized 2012 is not based on facts, my fear didn't go away. I'm still afraid whenever I hear the word "2012" and I'm having a hard time believing that we're not going to die in 2 years.

But one thing is not clear to me - Timewave Zero. Can anyone explain to me the basic idea behind this theory? From reading your site I understood it cannot be proven by the Chinese software, but does the theory on itself makes any sense?

The section on this subject on Wikipedia is pretty hard for me to understand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timewave_zero#Timewave_zero_and_the_I_Ching