Excuse me while I go attempt to squeeze out a tear for him.

… I replied to the previous idiot who doesn't believe in government involved with E.T

I have examined every claim of alien contact I have run across, and I am unable to find any that make a convincing case.

Does that make me an idiot too?

As for PC, I believe in 70% of their interview, it's up to you to use any discernment/research

… and if my discernment tells me that Project Camelot is nonsense, what then?

Regardless, unless the claims of alien visitation have something to do with 2012 (i.e., the Mayan's got their calendar from the Zeta Reticluans or something) it is off-topic in this forum.

Richard, I never mentioned about planet X, I replied to the previous idiot who doesn't believe in government involved with E.T

That is kind of strange, since the core foundation of the project camelot seems to the PX claims. Isn't that why bunkers are built according to them? I could go on and on regarding how many points they are wrong on, but I doubt that you would trust anything I say.

Even so, I've seen the comments from a Norwegian politician that supposedly knows a lot about this. Did you read that? The funny thing about it all is that ALL comments from him (that are supposedly direct quotations) are written in Swedish. And I don't talk about basic Swedish that Norwegians can adapt to easilly. This is gramatically correct Swedish, that I can say with hundred percent certainty isn't written by a Norwegian.

Furthermore, the claims they make about the doomsday vault is as far from correct as they can be. My sister, who studies biology at university level has actually been there. And needless to say, it is far from what Project Camelot says it is.

For one thing, it is a seed vault. That means that there are no vast amount of food supplies available, and there are no gigantic tunnelsystems there that leads to some gigantic arcs. So, I wouldn't make to much of their claims regarding that either.

I know that you are going to take a brief look (if even that) at what I wrote and then shake your head and claim that I'm a disinfo agent or something. So have at it:)

I'm not going to point out all the websites ,you haven't done any research and jump to the conclusion, what an ignorant

Are you not going to point them out because they're full of shit, or are you not going to point them out because they don't exist?

I believe the phrase that you're rattling your brain for is What an idiot, which is exactly what you are.

Project Camelot? So far, the ones that I've seen isn't all that credible (or that would be a grave understatement). Since you seek the truth, could I perhaps interrest you in a little speculative activities?

Lets say that a large planetary body, at least 4* earth in size, were to either (a) pass by very very close or (b) collide with us. Do you then think that it would matter wheter or not you are a few klicks down in the ground or in a mountain? I can assure you that if a planet of Nibirus claimed size came as close to us as 0.5AU then it wouldn't matter if you were several miles under ground, you would still die. So, then the follow up question is; why build bunkers if they wouldn't protect you against this magicall planet?

Could it perhaps be so simple that they build bunkers for the same reason now as they've always done, to provide a shelter when war breaks out?

Personally, if the U.S. government has been in contact with an alien race since any time in the past, the ideal that the alien race are hidden to the point that they're nearly non-existent is a completely moronic ideal, at best. Considering of course that an alien race (in theory) is basically a hierarchy to the human race, a more advanced race, there's nothing that anyone on this planet can do to stop them from showing themselves to the world. Hence the fact that the ideal that the U.S. has been in contact with an alien race is nothing more than bullshit.

X-Files. People love it.

That's a good idea. It will probably wind up as an index page, linking to other articles, but I think that's a good idea.

Christianity
Hinduism
Chinese Traditional
No Religion
Muslim

What claims do doomsayers tie into these religions? I have seen buddhist claims as well, saying that buddhism supports 2012 prophecies. Judaism as well. I know the bible doesn't necessarily say 2012, but is there anything in it that ties in with some sort of prediction? Same for the other religions? What is it that makes sense to them, enough to make these claims? How bogus are they, exactly?

I think there needs to be a religions 2012 debunking page on your site.

Go to a news website and type 2013 into the search engine. Look at all the politics (not all good) that come up. Try typing 2014, 2015, 2016. Then type 2012 and you will see no difference. Your conclusion doesn't make sense. Why would ANYONE go through so much effort to hide a global wide catastrophe from billions of people. No one would benefit from it. In fact, they do a pretty good job at not hiding impending catastrophes from us…such as the 2036 astroid that has a tiny chance of impacting Earth and could take out a small country. Or the warning of terrorist attacks on holidays or large events?

How about the USA bid on hosting the 2018 World Cup?

There are millions of scientists that look at the sky every day, every night. There are millions of archeologists that study ancient texts every day. There are millions of religious people that study the bible day in, and day out. Are you really trying to tell us, that ALL those people have missed the end of the world signs up until around 3 years ago when everyone magically started finding these (non-existent) things?

How do you pull something over on someone? Ask the charlatans who started this hoax. Or, just ask yourself…because you fell for it.

Me: You should stop beating your wife.
You: I don't beat my wife, you have no evidence of this!
Me: That just shows how good you are at hiding the fact that you beat your wife.

You can prove anything with that line of reasoning.

Your last claim is completely bogus. Please present evidence that "the five major religions … all point to 2012 as the end to earth".

I can tell you that we have seen this claim, or similar claims many, many times. When you dig in, you find things like St. Malachy cited as evidence that Christianity thinks the world will end in 2012.

Do not make unsupported assertions here, you will be called out on them.

I have to admit, you had me pretty mad there, until I realized you were talking about Project Camelot and not 2012hoax.org!

The "Project Camelot" website is basically all conspiracy theories, all the time. I've found very little there that had any credibility at all.

preserving the genetic code of important food plants, which is a good idea IMHO.

In case a giant planet or meteor storm should come our way ;-)

Sorry just kidding, though it could be used in such cases aswell.

But after reading the text from wiki about this Svalbard Global Seed Vault, it made me more calm.

Also the funny thing with this Camelot site is they never provide any real evidence, okay so there was an audio clip with this guy talking about it, but the quality was really poor and it could be just any guy talking, for all we know it could be one of the guys behind project Camelot.

And no, they wouldn't survive even two months there, just the two of them because there are no vast amounts of food supplies there.

I think I've heard somewhere that one of the site creators where involved in a recent hoax (which he admited to) and one of his friends "came clean" and told us that aliens made him lie.

In all, this is just pure nonsense=)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault

The Svalbard Global Seed Vault (Norwegian: Svalbard globale frøhvelv) is a secure seedbank located on the Norwegian island of Spitsbergen near the town of Longyearbyen in the remote Arctic Svalbard archipelago.[1] The facility was established to preserve a wide variety of plant seeds from locations worldwide in an underground cavern. The seed vault holds duplicate samples, or "spare" copies, of seeds held in genebanks worldwide. The seed vault will provide insurance against the loss of seeds in genebanks, as well as a refuge for seeds in the case of large scale regional or global crises. The island of Spitsbergen is about 1,300 kilometres (810 mi) from the North Pole. The seed vault is managed under terms spelled out in a tripartite agreement between the Norwegian government, the Global Crop Diversity Trust (GCDT) and the Nordic Genetic Resource Center (also known as NordGen and previously named the Nordic Gene Bank, a cooperative effort of the Nordic countries under the Nordic Council of Ministers) x

Construction of the seed vault, which cost approximately 45 million Norwegian Kroner (9 million USD),[2] was funded entirely by the Government of Norway.[2] Storage of seeds in the seed vault is free of charge. Operational costs will be paid by Norway and the Global Crop Diversity Trust.[2] The primary funding of the Trust came from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, United Kingdom, Norway, Australia, Switzerland, and Sweden, though funding has been received from a wide variety of sources including four developing countries: Brazil, Colombia, Ethiopia, and India.[3]

It's mission:

The Svalbard Global Seed Vault's mission is to provide a safety net against accidental loss of diversity in traditional genebanks. While the popular press has emphasized its possible utility in the event of a major regional or global catastrophe, it will certainly be more frequently accessed when genebanks lose samples due to mismanagement, accident, equipment failures, funding cuts and natural disasters. Such events occur with some regularity. In recent years, some national genebanks have also been destroyed by war and civil strife. There are some 1,400 crop diversity collections around the world, but many are in politically unstable or environmentally threatened nations.

I have seen news reports in the mainstream media for some years now about this seed bank. The Wikipedia page even has some schematics of it.

I wouldn't call that a "secret" bunker.

And it has nothing to do with bogus predictions about 2012. It has everything to do with preserving the genetic code of important food plants, which is a good idea IMHO.

That didn't tip you off? None of it is true. And, of course, the person supplying the information remains completely anonymous and makes his claims without any evidence at all, but you're supposed to believe it anyway.

"Although we cannot attest personally to the information given here…"

As if that would make a difference. Someone from Project Camelot probably wrote it in the first place.

"We are certain of their bona fides, but you will understand that we cannot reveal their real name or publish any photos without consent.

How convenient, and how utterly typical.

Planet X doesn't exist, Tom. The whole thing has woo written all over it and is a complete sham.

Maybe by someone who has to much sparetime I dunno lol.

Here is a part of the story from the link:

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.

Having said that, some of the things I have seen passed off as "secret underground bunkers" are laughable.

The video clip from Jesse Ventura's new mind-suck of a show is a good example. They drive out into the middle of nowhere, only to be confronted by a security guard, who says that they need clearance from "Northrup Security".

Northrup is a defense contractor. They build planes and missiles. If they left their stuff laying around on the surface where (for example) the Iranians or Russians or whoever could get a peek at it, they would be "defense contractor" no more.

Does that qualify as a 'secret underground bunker'? A place with a visible entrance and a sign by the driveway declaring that it is "Northrup-Grumman"?

How about NORAD? That's definitely and underground bunker, but 'secret'? Not so much.

Here's the thing… I expect the government to have "secret underground bunkers". That's part of what governments do. I expect that the UK has them, that Australia has them, that North and South Korea has them, and that Russia has them, and India, and Pakistan, and Germany, etc., etc.

There's an old saying in military circles: You plan for an enemy's capacity, not their intent. There's another old saying in military circles: Anyone not "us" is "them".

I seriously doubt that people promoting this idea that there has been a sudden surge in bunker-building can prove their case.

Do 'secret underground bunkers' exist? Yes they have, since about as long as there has been war. I suppose that a tribe of cave-men hiding their women and children in a cave, and then concealing the entrance counts too.

Not sure if you read the storie on the links I posted (is not a video) - it tells more about theese underground facilities :-)

Don't tell me the coverment are telling us everything, okay so maybe a big planet like this could not be kept from our knowledge, but I am sure at some point they havent told us everything they know. Not just about 2012 but also about aliens or UFO's and other secret things.

Politicians are already getting ready for elections in 2012, and have been anticipating a lot of events that are after 2012…you really think the billions of dollars already spent for the 2016 olympics are just being wasted?

Someone else will have to watch the videos, I don't have time, but your statement saying "I am sure there are things that are being kept away from the puclic to avoid mass hysteria" is just utterly false. Your paranoia is speaking.

And here:
http://projectcamelot.org/norway_update.html

What are your guys thoughts about this Project Camelot, anything to be concerned about? Cause why would they be building these bunkers if nothing wouldm happend, or maybe they think something will hapoend but are not 100% sure.

I am sure there are things that are being kept away from the puclic to avoid mass hysteria.