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				<title>Re: More Crap About The End Of The World.</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>So, the mother is rubbing these writings into the babies arm? Have they actually PROVED that she is doing that or is it speculation? This is really weird and disturbing.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>If you have a set of facts that can be explained perfectly well by dermatographia and mental illness, why would you explain it with magic instead? Why would a being like a god perform &quot;miracles&quot; that cannot be objectively distinguished from medical conditions?</p> 
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				<title>Re: More Crap About The End Of The World.</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Well, taking the skeptical position, it would be up to the people claiming that this is a miracle to show that it could not be caused by a known skin condition.</p> <p>Like I said, which is more probable?</p> <p>If you hear hoof-beats, what do you think of first? Horses (or Zebras if you are in Africa), or Pan, the half-goat, half-man?</p> 
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				<title>Re: More Crap About The End Of The World.</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>So, the mother is rubbing these writings into the babies arm? Have they actually PROVED that she is doing that or is it speculation? This is really weird and disturbing.</p> 
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				<title>Re: More Crap About The End Of The World.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hi, and welcome to the site!</p> <p>I tend to agree with the more skeptical comments about this situation.</p> <p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/10/22/russian-miracle-baby-or-skin-disease/" target="_blank">This link, for example</a>, says:</p> <blockquote> <p>As it turns out this alleged miracle that has caused so much uproar is just a skin disease. The writings are made by a selfish mother who torments her child to garner attention. In a civilized society this woman would be charged with child abuse and her baby taken away from her. But in an Islamic world, hungry for miracles she receives homage.</p> </blockquote> <p>Seems to be to be more probable that we're dealing with a child with <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/Dermatographia/DS00755" target="_blank">dermatographia</a> saddled with a mother who has <a href="http://my.clevelandclinic.org/disorders/factitious_disorders/hic_munchausen_syndrome_by_proxy.aspx" target="_blank">Munchausen's by Proxy</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: More Crap About The End Of The World.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>&quot;Local imam Abdulla has told locals that the Koran forecasts that before the end of the world, there may be people with its sayings on their bodies.&quot;</p> <p>Its in an article that I keep finding a lot. But I found it in the youtube video this time.<br /> Err.. Heres the link if you want to read it.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkoccav36o">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkoccav36o</a></p> <p>Hope this helps&#8230;</p> 
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				<title>Re: More Crap About The End Of The World.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>By the way, thanks so much for helping me out. I really do appreciate it.</p> 
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				<title>Re: More Crap About The End Of The World.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Oh well, I'm not sure exactly were I found it. I was really&#8230; Well, anxious I guess you can say. And did a lot a reseach. (See above. Wrote lots of stuff. Kinda ridiculous thinking about it now). I did already look at a lot of stuff about the skin diease too.<br /> It was mostly the &quot;believers&quot; comments I had read about after a certain acticles about it. I think I should actually found some evidence of this first before having you waste your time on this.</p> <p>I'll try to find some links for you.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>See this:</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatographic_urticaria">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatographic_urticaria</a></p> 
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						 <p>I wouldn't pay too much attention to religious explanations on <strong>anything</strong>. They don't base any of their believes on any sort of science or common sense. It's just all God for them. (Maybe that's why they are referred to as &quot;believes&quot; and not facts)<br /> To me, the markings on the child look very much like bruises or the skin disease. In order for me to believe it, I would like to observe the kid for a week and witness the appearance and disappearance of the markings myself with my own eyes, not having some one else telling me what happened.<br /> I saw a couple of youtube videos on this myself, and read some articles, but I didn't see any information of this being related to the end of the world. Would you please site where you got this piece of info from?</p> 
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						 <p>Hey guys. I love this site; it helped me a lot. My friend showed it to me knowing I was probably a nervous reck. (At least I was at first until I viewed this site). Everything on your site is logical. Heh. I guess they're people out there with common sense.</p> <p>Thats why I've come to you about a certain issue I've encountered through another friend. Sighhh. (Here we go). Nonetheless, its entirely different. It isn't on your guy's site. Shocker, knowing that theres already so many &quot;end of the world&quot; hoaxes on your site that has been debunked. (Thanks again for putting so much of your time into this site).</p> <p>This has had me worrying. And although with all the misinformation on the net I'm not sure it's entirely true. (Get ready. This might be silly). There is apperently a Russian baby born with markings from the Islam bible. These markings fade every week or so. I'm sure you can read about it easily; but wouldn't it be more convenient if I told you? Haha. (Duh). Anyways, the mother claims that the scriptures fade and get replaced on certain days of the week. I believe to remember them to be on Monday and in between the night of Thursday and Friday. The markings give him high fevers and he cries when the markings are being replaced, I guess. The parents claimed to have not been religinous until the baby was born. Just weeks after birth the markings started to appear as well. I've heard from their bible that when this happens its actually a sign of the end of the world, when a baby is born with scripture and such 'n such.</p> <p>And quite honestly, with all my selfishness, I don't want to leave this world. I love Earth. And I want better for it. I don't want it to end. I don't want mankind to end. I have many things ahead me, I believe. I want to be able to see my parents even longer&#8230; My friends. Not to have an expired date tagged onto me. No, I don't want to dig my grave yet. I'm only 14 years of age, going onto high school this year. I want to change this Earth for the better by me being here and doing things to help people.<br /> But, I'm getting off topic&#8230;</p> <p>These are things I've heard over the internet while do some research on the matter myself.</p> <p>The first thing, its all for publicity.<br /> In my opinion, the family is poor. (As stated and shown in most videos and artitcles). Maybe they want better for the child. Maybe publicity would help that. Maybe they even want better outlook on their country. (Meaning a better outlook how other people view it). Being the state they're in; war. They want hope to spread through the country. That times would get better, as they described it, that the &quot;miracle&quot; baby was sent from the heavens to help them through this tough time.</p> <p>Second thing is, that the baby has a skin diease.<br /> I've believe to have read that doctors have dianosed this infant with some sort of skin diease as read in a artitcle. But it was not told what it was. (Please don't use me as a reliable source. I'm not entirely sure. Just stating mostly opinions here).<br /> Skeptics believed that the baby has Dermatographic Urticaria, also known as skin writing. Some cases are different from others of course. It may stay for about a week or less or maybe longer and fade away. You write on the skin with something dull or even your finger and without a doubt it appears. In some cases it appears to be red, raised and even itchy. Its even painful. Someone I've read in their ranting that this whole thing is a hoax is that it can even cause fevers.<br /> People are against this, of course. Stating that, &quot;Why would the parents do this to their child?!&quot; etc, etc&#8230; Well. View above and maybe these people may understand where this skeptic is coming from? Yes? No?</p> <p>There was even people saying that Henna was being used. (Not quite sure how that stuff works). But its like painted tattoos, how I'd describe it at least, that depending on your skin, where on the skin, and how it is treated it will stay on. (Skin color changes color of the Henna).</p> <p>Of course there was more ridiculious claims such as brusing and pinching the skin like that. Crazy people&#8230;</p> <p>However, In recent studies I've heard that the mother would not give her baby up to be tested for this skin diease. Then again, why would the mother want to give her baby up to a person who she doesn't know for a certain amount of time with lots of needles? (Motherly protection).<br /> I've also read about the fact that tests don't last very long? Errr, yeah. Maybe like a 1 hour and 30 minutes maybe.<br /> Its not like the doctor wants to hurt him. Seems kinda&#8230; I don't know. Like shes hiding something. Hint, hint?</p> <p>Then again! I'm not sure what I've read would be too reliable. Thats why I need help.<br /> But what if it is all real? Wouldn't I know enough already to understand that it isn't? Maybe I'm overthinking things and should just let the &quot;end of the world&quot; happen. Just be done with it and enjoy life while I can. It won't be satisfying though&#8230;<br /> Gosh, I just need a second opinion. Please help.</p> <p>www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcdU6-2nyvM<br /> Video of the Russian baby.</p> <p><a href="http://www.freedombulwark.net/resistance/12-free-thinking/4-russian-miracle-baby-or-skin-disease">http://www.freedombulwark.net/resistance/12-free-thinking/4-russian-miracle-baby-or-skin-disease</a><br /> Another site to your viewing.</p> <p>There was others I looked on, but yeah. I didn't save them all&#8230; They basically said the same thing too.<br /> Google is always a first choice of info?</p> <p>I've never imagined I'd write this much&#8230; This was a mouth full to read.<br /> Errr. Sorry?</p> 
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