Just like those dirty agnostics!

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Exit Stage Left!

"I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil."

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Nobody could have said it better than Albert Einstein and with a full heart of confidence, I agree with Einstein.

If nothing else, I just believe the Bible is a work of fiction. God can exist, Jesus could have existed, though my impression is that he was just a normal man with a noble mission… but yeah. Then again, Book of Revelations is apocrypha, and I honestly think it was only accepted into the official bible canon for the sake of having a strong-arm to scare people into believing or being purged.

But this isn't a religious discussion forum. Just everytime I hear people go "Zomg we're all gonna die for going against God's plan!" or "Jesus is coming! Repent and be saved!" I go "Wow, our creator/savior is a real hypocrite. Thanks for ruining their images time and time again with your nonsense."

Mind you, I'm an atheist. However, I do honor the morals the Bible tries to teach people, and nothing more of it. I am open-minded, however, so my opinion is not me trying to spit on God or what not.

So, yeah. If it angers God to the point of killing us all for using what we were given, then God's a jerk. We would not have been given our limitless capacity if we weren't expected to use it to that end.

And, ultimately, if our limitless capacity was not meant to be abused, it just further proves that we're superior to that which created us. If, you know, you're into creatism or however you spell it.

So, yeah. Sort of also sums up my atheist stance, too. I just can't believe in any form of Biblical Apocalypse or Second Coming or what have you. I refuse to acknowledge our potential creator is that much of a crybaby to wipe us all out for using what we were given.

Just like we weren't given the natural ability to fly, or to breathe underwater, or anything like that… if we weren't meant to use our minds to their very limits, then yeeeeah.

TL;DR - God's a woman.

No. I don't think we will be punished for using the brains that God gave us.

Does that help?

I do have a faith-based thought/question for ya though…isn't tampering around with this sort of science considered to be like sacrilege..like fooling around with God's creation? And do you really think that we, as humans, have the power to simulate (looking for a better word here) or re-create the existence of our universe or of our civilization?

That's my only concern for this to be potentially dangerous to our species..are we messing with God's plan and if we are, will we be punished for it??

That's the point of speculation, anything new or, strange, will attract those who will say that it is dangerous to our species. Electricity? It could electrocute everyone on the planet. Light-bulb? It could explode! Vehicle? It could squash us by traveling more than 30mph! Camera? It will steal our souls!

I'm sure you see where this is going.

My general opinion is that it's just like any other new field of scientific research.

I think that's spot on, it is just like any other field. I remember reading somewhere that there were speculations that the human body would explode if one were to travel faster than 30mph when the automobiles were introduced. Likewise as there were concerns that hydrogen bombs would empty all hydrogen of our atmosphere upon explosion. I think both were proven wrong=)

Even so, I find high energy physics both scary and exciting. And when the consequence of scientists being wrong is a bubble nucleition that engulfs the universe I tend to weigh over to the scary part=)

The first Atomic Bomb began its production in 1939, I believe, and with the production of such a powerful weapon, also came with it a flood of negative theories, besides the obvious fact of its destructive power. Many things, just like now, were blown out of proportion. In spite of the oxymoron-like statement of calling the Atom-Bomb "safe", it was, in fact, safe. Until it was actually used in war in 1945.

Feel free to correct the dates or, names if they're wrong or misspelled, not 100% sure on my history on this particular section.

John Ellis said in one of his talks about the safety of LHC that the people who got the most affected by the fearmongering was those who had some understanding of how physics work, but not enough to be able to separate crap from gold so to speak. That I can account for, gladly.

My understanding of physics stretches no further than some crash courses in quantum physics back in college.

I know that quantum tunnelling is something that basically could happen any second, although some doubt that we even live in a false vacuum to begin with. If we live in a true vacuum then it's all fine, because no energies in the world would be enough to trigger a phase transition.

The problem I have with this scenario is just that it is so poorly covered. There simply isn't enough research done on heavy ion collisions and/or bubble nucleition to calm my mind. I know most think that a phase transition is quite unscary since we would cease to exist in less than a second, but still….

So if anyone know if Pb-Pb collisions (heavy ions) are less or more dangerous than P-P collisions (pure proton collisions) I would be more than glad?

What are your general oppinion on high energy physics (both heavy ion and proton collisions)? Safe/Unsafe?

Which it is.

I will see if I can find it.

I tried consulting the trustworthy LSAG-report but vacuum decay/vacuum metastability or whatever you may call it isn't really covered there, at least not as thouroughly as microscopic black holes and strangelets. The only thing they mention is that CR reaches far higher energies and so on, and not a single mathematical evidence that this couldn't possibly happen. It seems strange that this is so poorly covered since this is the worst scenario of them all.

Is it neglected because it is so incredibly unlikelly or because they simply don't know all that much about what could trigger such event?

Would all kinds of vacuum bubbles more or less trigger a phase transition or is there benevolent vacuum bubbles just like there are harmless strangelets and microscopic black holes?

Sorry for going offtopic here, but this stuff really got me anxious again.