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				<title>Re: Birds and fish mass deaths</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Tomy2011</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>653512</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Nice one, Lexie.<br /> Thanks.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>LexieDawn</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>665597</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Scientists are trying to figure out what caused the latest die-off of birds, this time in Italy. A bird protection group says more than 700 dead turtle doves have been picked up since Jan. 1 from the streets of a town near Bologna. The group says they appear to have overindulged on sunflower seeds, though turtle doves are also vulnerable to cold weather.</p> <p><a href="http://www.9and10news.com/Category/Story/?id=278190&amp;cID=3">http://www.9and10news.com/Category/Story/?id=278190&amp;cID=3</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: Birds and fish mass deaths</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>LexieDawn</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>665597</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/weekinreview/09gorman.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/weekinreview/09gorman.html</a></p> <p>Pretty good article!</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Haven't seen any more animals&#8230;Just the ones that were reported on earlier and they're trying to make it seem like new stories. The only thing that really freaks me out is them trying to link it to the Bible and an impending apocalypse. I've see reports saying it isn't anything like an apocalypse and I've seen some like the article linked by Jessica, that says it is and quotes the Bible.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>right emms, forgot to add that this was like the 4th or 5th article I found on it, hence hyping it all up!!</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The doves was the other day :) just to clear that up ;)</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Jessica, this is normal. If the Bible say something about the birds dieoffs like a sign of an apocalypse, we are dead now.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Ok, the media is now hyping up another story of dead doves with blue beaks and more fish.</p> <p><a href="http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978890714">http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978890714</a></p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Why is people looking to the Bible, it's annoying me so much, come on people what about the science and the logic? ugh this is all getting way outta hand and silly.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>To add on this, there are also many religious people quoting other parts if the same bible showing that it cannot be the end of the world. Bible quotes are cancelling each other out.<br /> The bible cannot be used as a reference for any end of the world date.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The Bible is not and will never be an acceptable form of evidence (unless in the literal sense of 'he was bludgeoned to death by a hard back copy of the Bible').</p> <p>Everyone has interpreted the Bible differently - if they didn't, there'd be <em>one</em> form of Christianity. As it happens, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations">there are a few more than one</a>. If followers, believers, whatever term we apply can't agree amongst themselves what the same words on a page mean in relation to the modern world, then why should we take their word over that of an objective person, a person whose interpretation or beliefs do not get in the way of cold hard facts.</p> <p>Now you or anyone else can believe in a deity, you can interpret those words in your holy scripture of choice as you like, but ultimately it will be up to you to then prove that those words are directly related to these events. And you just can't, they simply aren't related. You cannot test the hypothesis that what was written in the desert thousands of years ago was a prediction of events in modern times, whereas you not only <em>can</em> test the hypothesis that birds bumped into objects for example, but you can also prove it without resorting to an ancient book.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Jessica this has happened many time over many centuries and nothing happened.<br /> These people are trying to make you scared or get some media attention, that is all of it.</p> <p>It is viral marketing to attract more people to their blog so they get more money from the ads.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Have you guys seen this report? I don't know much about the Bible? Does any one here?? These 2 freaked me out pretty bad. I watched that video with Michio Kaku&#8230;but it didn't help. Any thoughts?? Please.</p> <p><a href="http://thesop.org/story/20110108/dead-fish-dead-birds-taste-of-horrors-that-will-be-unleashed-on-2012.html">http://thesop.org/story/20110108/dead-fish-dead-birds-taste-of-horrors-that-will-be-unleashed-on-2012.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/43293/XFiles_Dead_Birds_Dead_Fish_What_Does_it_Mean">http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/43293/XFiles_Dead_Birds_Dead_Fish_What_Does_it_Mean</a></p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Lexie, please, do not believe those stories and, like Lindsay said, this happen every time.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 06:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Thank you for that, Tomy&#8230;It is nice that you broke it all down. I feel soothed. I remember that Arkansas had severe weather over the New Years. I sort of felt that the deaths of the birds and fish there were somehow attributed to that. I've managed to stay pretty calm on the issue though, and actually heard on the radio (can't recall the reference for the comment) that mass animal deaths happen on average, every other day or so. I think what scares me the most, is that the more the media reports this stuff, as if it were happening simply because it is almost 2012, is the mass panic that it could cause. Mass panic could cause confusion and violence. It is scary.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Lexie. You JUST said this happens a llll the time!! Why should yu be worried?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Links on how long this has been going on.</p> <p>this one is from 2001</p> <p>[<a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/98/10/5466.full">http://www.pnas.org/content/98/10/5466.full</a>]</p> <p>this one is 2008</p> <p>[<a href="http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/38850">http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/38850</a>]</p> <p>this one is a wiki page about Holocene extinction</p> <p>[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction</a>]</p> <p>Now I hope these really help people, because if not I am scared some of you are going to make yourself very ill and probabaly end up in hospital.</p> <p>Emmy</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 01:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Have y'all seen more stories are coming out of Canada? The man is saying the were dropping out of the sky and he's been finding them daily since the 18th? Said the officials told him not to go public with it. Worried again.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-expert-on-birdfish-deaths-relax-this-happens-all-the-time/">http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-expert-on-birdfish-deaths-relax-this-happens-all-the-time/</a></p> <p>Here's the video with Michio Kaku.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p><a href="http://www.realtruth.org/news/110107-001-weather.html">http://www.realtruth.org/news/110107-001-weather.html</a></p> <p>This quotes Michio Kaku. Thought yall would like to see it. Mentions the magnetic field too.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Ok so how about we all just get on with normal life over the weekend and stop thinking about this stuff :)</p> 
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						 <p>This has already been brought up. The quotes in some of the articles stated that the birds were not poisoned after analyzing the contents of their stomach. But I guess we will see.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Do blackbirds eat fish?? I think they eat berries and stuff. Could the birds have drank water though that had the algae in it??</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>oh thats an interesting thought obaeyens.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I am thinking, did the bids eat those dead fish poisoned by algae?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I'm really beginning to think if I didn't have OCD, I'd be more normal. :)</p> 
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						 <p>Yes Algea are known to cause big problems for fish.</p> <p>The problem is that a lot of algae coming with ships from the other side of the world can get into lakes and the fish are not adapted to the poison of those algae.</p> 
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						 <p>Here's a video interview from USGS.</p> <p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in-san-francisco/dead-birds-fish-kills-update-more-evidence-that-the-die-offs-are-not-unusual">http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in-san-francisco/dead-birds-fish-kills-update-more-evidence-that-the-die-offs-are-not-unusual</a></p> 
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						 <p>Lexie,</p> <p>I saw the three links and, well, here is the 'thing':</p> <p>The first link was interesting, very interesting&#8230; and truth. At least one scientific link, huh?<br /> The second link was very nice, Lexie. Is not scary. Perhaps you didn't read all the article.</p> <blockquote> <p>Others have suggested that the internet age allows us to connect the dots where there are none to be connected.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>This isn’t the first time that unexplained mass animal deaths have occurred — see this article on Time for the “Top 10 Strange Mass Animal Deaths” — but it seems unprecedented to have them happen all over the world within a few days.</p> </blockquote> <p>Those two quotes are from the second link, which you called &quot;scary&quot;&#8230; In fact, this link could help you.</p> <p>The third link is nice. Read those quotes:</p> <blockquote> <p>Consider this: According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, anywhere from 100 million to one billion birds die each year from collisions with windows alone (communications towers and power lines claim countless more). Cars kill tens of millions of birds. Cats – both feral and domestic – probably do in hundreds of millions more. And that’s just in North America.</p> </blockquote> <p>Doubt answered, Lexie?</p> <p>Peace!</p> 
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						 <p>Still a little doubt. The rational side of me has come out somewhat and thinks that everybody is trying to cash in on the stories.</p> <p>I found this. It explains how so many birds could've died at once. <a href="http://www.birdchick.com/wp/2011/01/aflockalypse-now/">http://www.birdchick.com/wp/2011/01/aflockalypse-now/</a></p> <p>Now, this site, which is trending right now with google, scared me. <a href="http://www.universetoday.com/82263/aflockalypse-mass-animal-deaths-now-mapped-on-google/">http://www.universetoday.com/82263/aflockalypse-mass-animal-deaths-now-mapped-on-google/</a></p> <p>This one is pretty good too!! <a href="http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/what-killed-birds-arkansas-and-louisiana-and-sweden-you-did">http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/what-killed-birds-arkansas-and-louisiana-and-sweden-you-did</a></p> 
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						 <p>Lexie, you did the right thing: search. The USGS is the right place to go, and I'm glad they helped you there.</p> <p>Some doubt still, Lexie?</p> 
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Magnetism is the one that made me think since birds use the magnetic field for navigation.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Some birds. In any case, <a href="http://geomag.usgs.gov">there's nothing special going on with our magnetic field</a>. If that were the case, confused birds would be only one of several obvious issues, and the problem would be far more widespread than it is. It would, in fact, adversely affect every species of creature that uses geomagnetism for navigation, and that simply isn't what we observe.</p> 
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						 <blockquote> <p>I hope I'm not offending if y'all that have been talking with me over the past few days by posting this.</p> </blockquote> <p>Not at all, Lexie. This is a good, helpful post: thank you. But why not give the subject (and especially yourself) a rest now?</p> 
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						 <p>I called the USGS and spoke to someone there. Feel free to call 1-888-ASK-USGS !!!</p> <p>She referred me to this site:</p> <p><a href="http://www.agfc.com/Pages/default.aspx">http://www.agfc.com/Pages/default.aspx</a></p> <p>She said she had been doing her own research and getting several emails wanting to know if it was an apocalypse. She said that more tests are being done but that it happens so much. She also said the same thing everyone here has said, people are just trying to link the stories and be on the news. I hope I'm not offending if of yall that have been talking with me over the past few days by posting this.</p> 
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						 <p>The Baader-Meinhof phenomena. Your brain learns of a new piece of information like an unusual word or name, and for a while it bubbles away rather than just settling down into memory, and it keeps coming to the front of your brain such that you notice it everywhere.</p> <p>It can happen for numbers, it can happen for new vocabulary you learn - I had a similar thing just recently where I found out Pete Postlethwaite had died. Who is Pete Postlethwaite? Bit of searching and a found a picture. &quot;Oh it's him, I know him. Wait, I was watching him just yesterday in a film&#8230; And have just bought another film that he's in&#8230; weird.&quot;</p> <p>Well no, it wasn't weird, it's just a coincidence. With these events here, coincidences are not just being found, but actively pushed onto people, people are going out and finding them, rather than stumbling into them, almost forcing them to the surface of the news.</p> 
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						 <p>Repeat from another thread. Didn't want to rewrite the same thing. :)</p> <p>There are feral python deaths in Florida because of the cold weather. The invasive species is a tropical one and cannot tolerate cold. BUT no one seems to be interested in an invasive species die off. They were poised to destroy the ecosystem of the Everglades. Not much discussion that either except an occasional science program. So if it is warm blooded or exciting and massive and tied into doomsday in some way then yes, media frenzy.</p> <p>Manatees have been dying off from the cold as well. That has been reported on and on TV as well. But no mass hysteria there since well manatees do not number in the 1000s. But since it is so few of them, the die off is as dramatic as 1000s of blackbirds, which are considered pests in the areas they were reported.</p> 
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						 <p>I was able to shrug this off after seeing the amount of bird deaths/fish deaths in the past 15 years. But the comments of these news articles have been&#8212;-entertaining? Some people are saying that were killed by contact with a UFO, or something that a UFO emitts.</p> <p>Chemtrail is another popular one. Although some get the idea of what a chemtrail actually is correct, just the name wrong. I remember as a kid seeing the trails of planes in the air, the days before conspiracy theories.</p> <p>Magnetism is the one that made me think since birds use the magnetic field for navigation. Although, so does a compass. My compass isn't spinning in circles.</p> <p>HAARP. I wasn't surprised to see this. We know this is pretty dumb.</p> <p>I also heard that the news media are short on topics to report. Which is actually good news for us here, because it means that not much is going on in the world.</p> 
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Did you know they're trying to link it to UFO's and chemtrails??</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>I haven't seen any UFO links yet, but I've read several comments and articles trying to connect the die-offs to chemtrails, HAARP and a pole shift. It is truly, mind-numbingly ridiculous.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Still a little scared by it though. ;)</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Only a sociopath would not be bothered on some level by so many dying animals. It's horrible, but that's just how things go in nature, and it clearly is not unusual.</p> 
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						 <p>I feel so stupid&#8230;I didn't mean to answer it. Guess, I need to read somethings more than once. :) But, I do hope I haven't offended anyone. Things like this scare me. I can't help it. My mom asked me was I doing it for attention too. I swear, I'm not. Just concerned&#8230;.I wish I didn't worry so bad.</p> 
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						 <p>No, I'm not just trying to get attention. That's not the reason at all. I am scared I'm not going to live my life because all these birds and fish are dying. So many people are quoting the Bible and saying it fore told something like this. I don't want you upset, and I appreciate you answering my questions. I'm trying to find way to calm my self down.</p> <p>Melanie, why did you answer to this when it was directed at me???</p> 
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						 <p>Obaeyens, I am NOT doing this for attention. I am doing this because I am genuinely terrified. I find comfort here..it may not seem like it. I'm sorry if I've bothered you, but I am terrified by this stuff!!</p> 
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						 <p>Yes Juju, that's what I have come to realize myself and quite honestly, I feel really silly for having gotten caught up in the hysteria once again..but I'm over it now!! One thing that I was reading that makes total sense now is that, like in the USGS link you posted, is that many of these die off happen in locations (especially for the birds) such as fields and whatnot and in the AK case, in the middle of a small town. And that's where and why I think it got blown out of proportion!!</p> 
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						 <p>Did you know they're trying to link it to UFO's and chemtrails?? I agree, it's odd..but just like those birds in Italy..they starting showing up on Sunday..and they decide to bring it to the media on Friday?!?!?! Really? I was really scared about this..but now, I'm kinda just shaking my head. Still a little scared by it though. ;)</p> 
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						 <p>Mary, did you read the article linked above? I'll link to it again: <a href="http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13798420">http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13798420</a><br /> It says that, on average, 163 mass wildlife die-offs are reported to the US government each year. If we extended this to the whole world, how many such events would we find? Let's multiply by the ratio of the world/US human population (a bit of a stab in the dark, but probably OK for a ball-park figure). The figures are <a href="http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html">here</a>. The result is 3,617 events per year, which is nearly <strong>10 a day</strong>. So this sort of thing is <strong>not in the least unusual.</strong></p> <p>Lexie (above) seems to have latched on to something.</p> <blockquote> <p>I thought it was funny they didn't report it until all the other stories came out.</p> </blockquote> <p>Precisely! News agencies are falling over themselves to find and report such incidents. When, in the past, would you ever have heard about dead doves in Italy? Virtually never.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Now 8,000 turtle doves have died in Italy from hypoxia. Said they thought they were swept into a high altitude storm. I'm scared now. More than before. Something is happening.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Mary, what have we been trying to tell you for days now?</p> <p>What possible mechanism do you think could connect all of these events? I'll tell you: there isn't one. The only connection is the nonstop barrage of media reports that are obsessed with making you think there is actually some kind of news in these wildlife die-offs. In reality, these events happen almost constantly, all over the world.</p> 
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						 <p>Now 8,000 turtle doves have died in Italy from hypoxia. Said they thought they were swept into a high altitude storm. I'm scared now. More than before. Something is happening.</p> 
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						 <p>I think of the animal deaths this way: When we were first excited about our jeep wrangler, and started driving it around, all of a sudden you seem to see 100 jeep wranglers. That is because it is in your awareness. It's the same thing with these media stories. They have always been around, but people took little notice. Now that people are freaked out, the stories are becoming more popular and seem to be popping up everywhere, only because of the hysteria and awareness of the so called &quot;issue.&quot;</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>It's a pleasure huni :)</p> <p>pleased I am helping ya out :D</p> 
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						 <p><a href="http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13798420">http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13798420</a></p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I am trying to quit looking. But I feel like I <strong>have</strong> to. Like if I keep looking I will find better explainations. I'm trying to work thru it. Emmy is helping. :)</p> 
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						 <p>Lexie, I already posted something like this:</p> <p>Get out from the Internet. You are actually looking for more reasons for fear 2012, birds and fish deaths, zip codes, and conspiracy. But you have to get out from the Internet. Do you know why? Because it's a free place. So free, that if you look for the most absurd thing in the world, you will find it.<br /> Why you don't hang out with your friends, play games, watch a movie&#8230; make something better. If you don't want to be scared, stop looking for the fear, because you will find it, and it will be bad.</p> <p>So, the only thing I ask you is: do something different.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 03:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>That's fine, Lexie. I just found your post very desperate.</p> <p>Peace!</p> 
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						 <p>I hope so, Emmy!<br /> But I think some users are still worried, sadly.</p> <p>Peace!</p> 
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						 <p>I posted that because I thought it was funny they didn't report it until all the other stories came out. And I was wondering when you thought the claims of the dead birds and fish being a sign of the end would stop. Not the 2012 claims.</p> 
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