hoax or hú~axis
s'ace (guest) 20 Mar 2010 18:49
the question i put forward is …
can we pivot from hoax to huax?
which is breath the other side of the same entry?
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s'ace (guest) 20 Mar 2010 18:49
I'm sorry, but I can't make heads or tails of your question.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Well… that was certainly confusing.
Give me a moment to take my brain out of my skull and give it a nice, long massage.
Wie Sie säen, so sollst du ernten.
What's Mayanism? Traditional Anahuac religion is not New Age but an ancient system of theology and philosophy on par with the various Hindu beliefs and with any Semitic system. It is true that these people distort the true theology that still survives and we should take what they (New Agers) say with a grain of salt.
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What's Mayanism? The religions of Anahuac are not New Age. by 
Chris (guest), 11 Apr 2010 07:03
Chris (guest), 11 Apr 2010 07:03
"Mayanism" is a new-age belief system, completely unrelated to traditional indigenous Mayan beliefs. It means literally "Worshiping the Mayans". It is typified by assigning the Mayans with some magical properties (e.g., ability to construct a super-accurate calendar, more accurate than modern ones) and then using this fictional property to argue that the Mayans were more advanced technologically than is accepted. I have seen arguments given that the Mayans were extra-terrestrials, that they were the descendants of the inhabitants of Atlantis, that they were influenced by extra-terrestrials, or that they had time-travel abilities.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
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Re: What's Mayanism? The religions of Anahuac are not New Age. by 
Astrogeek, 12 Apr 2010 21:21
please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened
amber (guest) 02 May 2010 23:35
please tell me José doesn't actually say the world will end on that day. im confused because ive researched him a bit before and he says their will be a change but i dont understand why he whant us to use the other calendar, if we dont does he think we will die? whats hes book about and how did he find out about the mayan calendar? also at the top it says he made his first prediction what does that meen, what was he predicting and was he predicting an event to happen on 1995 or was that the day he had the prediction?
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please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened by amber (guest), 02 May 2010 23:35
amber (guest), 02 May 2010 23:35
Re: please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened
Hi Amber,
Arguelles doesn't say the world will end or that we will die. He thinks it will be a spiritual evolution or something silly like that.
I can't think why you would be concerned about the opinions of someone who thinks he is a reincarnated Mayan priest, changed his name accordingly (to Valum Voltan), and tried to sue the United Nations for refusing to change to the Mayan 13 month calendar. He is a complete wackazoid.
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Re: please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened by 
Alene Y, 03 May 2010 02:36
Re: please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened
Heh heh… "Wackazoid"
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
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Re: please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened by Astrogeek, 03 May 2010 14:51
Re: please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened
Jim Smith (guest) 05 Jul 2010 19:32
Hello Amber,
Regarding Argüelles' claim that the Maya came from another planet:
I've lived in a Maya region of Chiapas, Mexico for nine years. Every day, I work and converse with people who look like they just stepped out of an ancient Maya mural, then changed into blue jeans. I've donated blood for some of them. Even though I'm a White Devil Honky Slave Master Northern European, all of the recipients prospered.
Argüelles would probably explain this by saying that the Maya Star Lords genetically engineered themselves to be able to accept transfusions from low-born sons of swineherds like me. In that case, I'd like to know why they didn't make themselves immune to the smallpox and plague that killed 90% of them in colonial times. When he's explained that, I'll ask why they didn't ensure they wouldn't get heart disease and diabetes from consuming Coca Cola and junk food.
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Re: please answer my questions!! i need good feedback cause im getting frightened by Jim Smith (guest), 05 Jul 2010 19:32
Jim Smith (guest), 05 Jul 2010 19:32
thanks but can you explain the prediction thing more clearer did he make a prediction in 1995 or was the prediction suppost to happen in 1995, and whats his book about?
Arguelles states at http://www.13moon.com/time-is-art.htm that the "end of the world" is a metaphor for the end of the 'world of ego and materialism'. He also claims to be the first to publish about it in his book The Mayan Factor (1987), although this is not the case, as Michael D. Coe published about it in the first edition his textbook The Maya (1966).
Arguelles appears to be largely misinterpreted on this issue, as his position is that of a '2012 transformationalist'… my term for someone who believes that 2012 marks some kind of 'turning point' or 'consciousness raising' or some similar transformative event… not necessarily someone who predicts doom and destruction. Regardless, Arguelles' hedging on the topic has lead many people to accept the belief that 2012 marks a date to be feared.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
By the way, Coe (as a scholar), was merely reporting on what he thought that the Maya believed… that the 'end date' of 13.0.0.0.0 was linked to an 'Armageddon' by the Maya. I believe that since 1966 this viewpoint has been revised significantly.
Arguelles, on the other hand, is not the objective scholar. He believes that 2012 is some kind of transformative event.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
1.Bible. The scene of a final battle between the forces of good and evil, prophesied to occur at the end of the world.
2.A decisive or catastrophic conflict.
[Late Latin Armagedōn, from Greek, from Hebrew har məgiddô, the mountain region of Megiddo : har, mountain + məgiddô, Megiddo.]
so Coe beleives that we are going to die and that it will be the end of the wolrd?
What Coe said was: "There is a suggestion … that Armageddon would overtake the degenerate peoples of the world and all creation on the final day of the thirteenth [baktun]. Thus … our present universe … [would] be annihilated on December 23, 2012, when the Great Cycle of the Long Count reaches completion."
He's saying what event he thought the Mayans might have predicted to coincide with the end of the 13th cycle of their Long Count calendar. This is a long way from believing it oneself. This interpretation is largely discredited by more recent scholars of the Maya.
http://www.2012hoax.org/mayan-prediction
im a kid i didnt understnad half the things you just said please refrase
Coe thought the Mayans might have believed the end of the world was in 2012. Other people studying the Mayans don't agree with this. It also doesn't mean that he believed the end of the world would be in 2012.
oh thank you i understand now, and when you say scholar does that mean he studied the mayans?
Yes. A scholar is anyone that studies.
does he still beleive what he thinks their prophecy is
Hi Amber;
If the question is whether or not Coe still thinks that the Maya predicted some kind of apocalyptic event for 12/21/2012, the answer is that I don't think so, but I'm uncertain.
I am given to understand that Coe included the line in the first edition of his book, but that it was removed from later editions. I'll ask Dr. Hoopes about it next time I talk with him… I believe that Coe was Hoopes' PhD thesis advisor.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
From the Inner Traditions/ Bear Company website concerning his death.
All of us at Inner Traditions • Bear & Company feel a great loss in the passing of author, poet, and historian José Argüelles on March 23, 2011. José Argüelles initiated the Harmonic Convergence of August 1987 and is the one who first introduced the date December 21, 2012 into mass consciousness with The Mayan Factor: Path Beyond Technology. Argüelles is also the founder of the annual Whole Earth Festival (1970) in California, and one of the originators of the Earth Day concept. He is the author of many Inner Traditions titles including Earth Ascending, Surfers of
the Zuvuya, and Time and the Technosphere.
Even a sufi's playground, is the mind.
See U on da utter side, brutter José Argüelles…
Chilam Balam… a.k.a. A.J.S.
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