2012?
Dave (guest) 17 Jan 2010 21:46
So ray, whats your opinion on 2012, is it real or fake or something in between?
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Dave (guest) 17 Jan 2010 21:46
One of the World's Most Respected Scientists WARNS of 2012 DANGER !!!
Star Heart (guest) 27 Apr 2010 19:31
FOX News: Scientists confirm Major Solar Storms in 2012
http://www.december212012.com/download/2012/FOX_Solar_Storms.htm
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One of the World's Most Respected Scientists WARNS of 2012 DANGER !!! by Star Heart (guest), 27 Apr 2010 19:31
Star Heart (guest), 27 Apr 2010 19:31
Hey Dave,
Here's a link that explains how two 2012 solar eclipses are explicitly forecast in the Dresden Codex.
2012 is real, but not for the reasons popularly expressed. An interview can heard here: http://m.blogtalkradio.com/souldancing/2010/03/04/raymond-mardyks-mayan-calendar-and-2012
… and much of what is stated here at 2012hoax about me is incorrect …
Hello Ray,
Can you be more specific as to what statements about you are incorrect? We try to present only correct information.
Incorrect: Mayan calendar or Mayan Calendar / galaxy / "dictated by"
Correct: Maya calendar / Galaxy (Moon, Sun, Galaxy) / lovingly shared by
should be good enough for now … some can only handle so much "truth" at one time … hahahahahahahahaha.
My Maya Calendar book was not dictated by ETs. Am I wasting my time with you people or do you care about accurate information? It looks like you are ridiculing people you don't agree with or understand. How can anyone take this site seriously with such sloppy ethics? Let me make this clear: 2012 comes from the Maya calendar, which is Maya astrology and comes to us from an authentic Maya book called the Dresden Codex. The fact that the Maya received the information in that codex from ETs (their gods?) explains how it matches modern day computer precision. 2012 marks an appointment with " galactic" forces.
"The fact that the Maya received the information in that codex from ETs (their gods?) explains how it matches modern day computer precision."
What is your evidence for making such an assertion, sir? What is your basis for making this claim?
Check this out, Alene Y. In case you don't see it, my name is spelled two different ways.
" … Mardyks' Geocities page for a while, Mardyk's … "
I couldn't resist this one, since Astrogeek is such a f***-up.
(Edit: Once again, Ray, keep it clean. This site is read by children.)
In some ways I can see why he thinks that the information is incorrect. He is kind of being passed as a proponent mainly because he is partially responsible for making the 2012 date being as popular as it is, which is way more then it should be. He admits this willingly. Nevertheless, he doesn't predict a doomsday at all. I think he believes that the day will come and go unnoticed for those who aren't "spiritually attuned." Whatever that means… looks like it will come and go unnoticed for myself.
Well, I try to make a distinction between the proponents of "2012" as a 'period of transformation' and those who are predicting a cataclysm of some sort (although the lines can be a bit fuzzy, with some people falling into both camps). I have clearly indicated that Mardyks is a "2012 transformationalist".
However, I am willing to update this page if and when Mardyks can be specific about the information that he feels is incorrect.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Dear Sir Mr. AstroGeek,
Footnote 3. has an extra "a" in it. Also, since you seem to be impressed by John Major Jenkins, maybe you should see his final segment in the SyFY 2012 special where he finds a rock in a park. I won't spoil it here for you. The "galactic alignment", which I was the first to clearly discuss (1987, 1991) involves the position of the Sun at the solstices aligning with the galactic plane/equator [1998-2001 (Sept 2001, the time of the 9:11)]. One of several astrological factors that point to 2012 as highly significant. Think about aligning a pool cue (1998-2001) before a making a shot (2012). If all goes as planned, at least one ball disappears in a pocket and the white ball remains on the table. Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Thank you for pointing out the typographical error.
I point out six errors and you correct one. Your welcome. HELLO … MAYA CALENDAR NOT MAYAN!!!
Could you identify for us the physical forces at work in astrology?
The entire list is pretty short: gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear forces. Those last two function only over an extremely short distance- less than the diameter of most atomic nuclei. The first two act over long distances, but are subject to the inverse-square law.
Can you explain astrology in terms of the functioning of those two forces?
Incorrect? Let's see now: 1. I don't have any web sites 2. only one book about the Maya calendar 3. "dictated by ETs" is Corey's words, not mine 4. "fortune teller" is Hoope's opinion, not mine 5. no written 2013 guide for sale 6. not a transformationalist
Here's the interview link again if you care what I actual have to say about 2012: http://m.blogtalkradio.com/souldancing/2010/03/04/raymond-mardyks-mayan-calendar-and-2012
Also a brief outline of my most important conclusions here, called "PLEASE Don't Be Stupid About 2012: Censored From Wikipedia": http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=470501034&blogId=515814471
“He knows a great deal more about this calendar stuff than many people out there who are presenting themselves as experts,” Hoopes says. … would be a much more honest and fair quote to include here from My Oh Maya. The falling out with Hoopes was partially a result of me not giving him the specifics of where 2012 is in the Dresden Codex. Note this from FAMSI: Hoopes, "To give credit where credit is due, Ernst Forstemann's remarks were first brought to my attention by astrologer Ray Mardyks, an individual who remains preoccupied with the idea that the ancient Maya were given estoteric information by extraterrestrials." at http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/comments.html In other words, I know more genuine facts about how this comes from the ancient Maya, and what it means, than anyone else.
Perhaps… but perhaps I should also include the bit from the article about the domestic violence allegations.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Perhaps, but perhaps this entire quote should be unbiasedly included:
“He knows a great deal more about this calendar stuff than many people out there who are presenting themselves as experts,” Hoopes says. “He’s not an academic. He’s not a scientist. He’s not an expert on the ancient Maya. He’s a professional astrologer…[which] is like saying, ‘this is a very qualified fortune-teller.’”
1. I don't have any web sites
Really? Didn't you link to this website above? http://galaxywave.org/
Didn't you send me the following email?
First Name: ray
Last Name: mardyks
E-mail: <redacted>
Your Message: Also google famsi and my name to see acknowledgement of my work on that site by Stone & Hoopes. To be accurate: my web site is called Galaxy Wave 2012 www.galaxywave.org which offers the Maya Calendar Initiation
Something is wrong with this picture.
2. only one book about the Maya calendar
Which of these two is not about the Mayan calendar?
http://www.amazon.com/TzolKin-Book-Days-Calendar-Ephemeris/dp/B002IYKTPW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268845104&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.com/Maya-Calendar-Galaxy-Raymond-Mardyks/dp/0964418029/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268845104&sr=1-4
There is a third book but it does not appear to be about the Mayan calendar
And there is a "Total Solar Eclipse Guidebook" from 1991
3. "dictated by ETs" is Corey's words, not mine
Yes. What is your point? Are you saying that Pein is incorrect, and that you do not claim that you "… took dictation from extraterrestrials."?
Perhaps you could clarify what you did say, and where Pein might have gotten that impression? Also, could you clarify the product description on Sedona Starseed where it says "A unique constellation of messages from galactic beings focusing on Sedona, as the leading edge of Earth's sweep into an interstellar consciousness. Beings now perceived as star groups --Andromeda, Pleiades, Taurus, Sirius, Lyra and dozens more--"
4. "fortune teller" is Hoope's opinion, not mine
I see a trend here. Are you under the impression that anything written about you has to be approved by you, or be approving of you?
6. not a transformationalist
That is my term, and it means someone who advocates that 2012 is some kind of spiritual or metaphysical 'turning point', that we will be "transformed" in some way, and it appears to fit with your concept of "initiation". Since you dispute this, would you care to clarify what your position is?
Here's the interview link again if you care what I actual have to say about 2012
Yes, I've added that to the page in the 'footnotes' section. I suggest people listen to it, because if they don't think you are a bit nutty now, they will after they hear it.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
1. galaxywave.org is DEAD … end of the world kinda thing, you know. Not mine in the first place.
2. good call … I was suggesting the Sedona book was not about the calendar, eventhough it has the best information about 2012 in print, by FAR.
3. Sedona Starseed was partially "channelled' from 50 or so non-human sources, 30 or so being extraterrestrial.
4. I am not a fortune teller. I am one of the few astrologers on Earth good enough to understand the Maya calendar and its implications for 2012. 2012 is an astrological prediction! …
6. … your term reflecting your inability to understand the true nature of 2012. Initiation into the Maya calendar is a long standing tradition because people will not be able to understand it unless they are shown and guided. It is beyond the capacity of most everyone to figure it out on their own. It's nature is to open to reality beyond the ego and ego cannot guide ego beyond itself, therefore a guide is required. All spiritual traditions have guides. You may also consider for a few moments that the most influencial books on Earth were also "channelled", including the Bible and the Koran, not to mention other sacred scriptures. I suggest you read "Sedona Starseed" for yourself. As for the domestic violence allegations, my 10-year daughter acted up at the mall and I sent her home. Her revenge for me not buying her a Brat doll at the time was to make up a story and her mother, my soon to be ex-wife was all too happy to file a police report to assist with her divorce position. Attempting to demean or insult my character is a distraction from the fact that 2012 is real and as an expert astrologer, I know more about it than all the scientists, New Agers and scholars, who just don't understand Maya astrology! Galactic astrology includes the influences from the "stars" not just the planets and signs and that includes extraterrestrials. 12.21.2012 marks the expiration of a contract that has kept Earth humans under quarantine, meaning no direct exterrestrial contact until AFTER 12.21.2012. Find "Bashar", an extraterrestrial representative who explains this in detail. You and others believe this is a hoax because its nature is BEYOND what you allow yourselves to believe. Hoopes and Van Stone have the same problem.
"You and others believe this is a hoax because its nature is BEYOND what you allow yourselves to believe."
You are completely correct in this. Guilty as charged. I do not allow myself to believe wild, ungrounded, completely speculative theories that aren't backed up with a single shred of real evidence.
If you can construct a hypothesis that explains astrology in terms of what we already know to be true about physics, then you'll get some traction. Bonus points for proposing an experiment to test your hypothesis.
Interesting… so, it was "not yours in the first place" but I see from your email that you claimed it as 'yours', and you linked to it in your post on March 7th (above). It appears to have changed a bit now, requiring a log on… fortunately I have a screenshot of it as of March 4th.
You found four books, yet leave the erroneous info on the page about two. Where's your integrity? Did Moses and Mohammed take dictation from God or "angels"? Sedona Starseed is a collection of messages from "beyond". It includes information about "who" taught the Maya calendar to the Maya and its intended implications for 2012, in detail.
Sure… I was waiting for you to confirm it. I expected you to say that one or more are "not really books"…
So, above you said that Sedona Starseed is not about 2012, and yet here you appear to be saying that it really is.
Given your inability to remember the books that you yourself wrote, I find your questioning my integrity a bit amusing.
Are you seriously comparing yourself to Moses or Mohammed?
Sedona Starseed is NOT ABOUT the Maya calendar. It is NOT ABOUT 2012, though a small portion of it mentions what 2012 is, in context of what the book is about. Yes, Tzolkin and the Total Eclipse were booklets and not actually books. Galaxywave.org was never MY site and is now down due to it being unresponsive to my message and needs. Your integrity is definately in question as this site has a definite bias. It may be beyond your ability to be objective about this, but not beyond my invitation for you to open your mind more. I am contributing to make YOUR site BETTER. (Moses) No, I am inviting you and others to recognize the potential value of information "channelled" from beyond human consciousness. Without this, 2012 would remain meaningless and childsplay for the doomsdayers that you are objecting to. I did not write Sedona Starseed, I channelled it and so yes, I do not fully understand its contents. Notice how this discussion is a side track and distraction from the true nature of 2012. I am using my real name. Who are you 2012hoax? Do you and AstroGeek enjoy ridiculing what, and who, you do not understand? What would inspire respect from me would be an intelligent and open-minded question like: "Can you share more about who taught the Calendar to the Maya and what were their intentions, as you understand it?" There is still time for you to learn something … and make this a genuinely useful site … before it is too late! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Astrogeek and 2012hoax are the same person.
So according to your theory, the thousands of people who have PhD's in archeology, astronomy, and biology have completely overlooked something that a ancient culture predicted thousands of years ago? And then somehow you know all about it when no one else in the world does? I don't mean to be overly skeptical but you really believe that you were able to look at the Dresden Codex and decipher its contents in a way that only you understand?
The 12/21/2012 date isn't even 100% positive. The date was debated over and eventually picked by archeologists, who study the Maya text and icons, as the date that the calender rolls over. Ultimately, its not a settled debate either way. It may not even be in 2012. Woah, mind blowing huh?
Maybe I didn't come away from your statements with the correct conclusion. You are extremely vague…or just don't know how to speak properly in public.
So, when did this contract that locks us in from the extraterrestrials take place? Where did these extraterrestrials come from? What exactly is it that keeps them from communicating with us? How did the Maya know about it?
These should be fairly easy questions to answer for a genius like yourself. Afterall, you are more intelligent than our best scholars *golf clap*
…nutty was an understatement
Agreement was made during late Atlantean times near the previous Solstice/Galactic Equator alignment. Many places: Pleiades, Sirius, Lyra, Draco, etc. It's like the "Prime Directive" in Star Trek; a "galactic" agreement saying "don't interfere with the more primitive human species on Earth … until 12.21.2012". The date is precise and explicitely stated in the agreement schedule; what you see as the Maya calendar. A few Maya were initiates and some were descendants of these ETs and they were given information to pass on, like in the Dresden Codex. The Maya elders even state their "wisdom" came from ancestors who came from the stars of the Pleiades. Many indigenous people have similar traditions. Scholars aren't trained in galactic astrology or extraterrestrial history. Anthony Aveni can't even handle the concept of "galactic" yet. See his End Of Time// book, for example. The ones that are somewhat "tuned" in are most likely staying quiet to protect their jobs, reputations and to prevent being called "nutty" by underinformed people like you. You are getting this in small doses as you are obviously not ready for the more complete picture.
If I haven't said it clearly enough yet, "The ETs have communicated to us and "2012" is THE message, THEY are coming back." I have astronomical and mathematical proof that 12.21.2012 is correct. It is also definitely stated in the Dresden Codex. There is a lot more than what is being presented here. I suggest Sedona Starseed as a read to get it from "their" perspective. What is happening in 2012 is BEYOND most people's ability to even IMAGINE!
Oh now 2012 is ETs that are going to come huh to do what may i ask?
2012 is the time of the Galactic Wave, timed by the galactic alignment and other galactic astrological factors, which will be used by ETs to do things you are not prepared to know about. Read "Sedona Starseed". Somethings are best kept secret for now. You are lucky that I am revealing as much as I am. 2012 is not a mystery to me and I am not making up theories. Read "Earth" by Barbara Marciniak to find out what some Pleiadians have planned for 2012. Watch "Bashar" videos with 2012 in the title to experience his ET perspective.
so what do you actually think 2012 means, something spiritual that will enlighten us?
just curious..no insult was meant in this
So are these Aliens coming to hurt or help? I mean like, would I be fighting them after 2012 or would I be playing video games with them?
Now i dont think ETS are really come on that specific day or anytime soon even then nothing will happen as thye probably would of toke over A LONG TIME AGO so forget the war of the world thing lol Man Some ppl live in some MAGICAL WORLD like really wow……..
I have astronomical and mathematical proof that 12.21.2012 is correct.
Please present it. And try not to confuse mathematics with numerology.
Your contributions are becoming increasingly fanciful. Your approach of "This is what I say and you are incapable of understanding it" is the refuge of someone incapable of supporting their claims.
Not today bikenbeer2000. No need to prove myself to someone who insults me and expects proprietary information for free. And I genuinely believe you would not understand it. Familiar with the Jesus "pearl before swine" advice? And WhoTF are you anyway behind that fake name?
So, describing your contributions as fanciful and insupportable is something you find insulting. You're a sensitive soul, aren't you.
So you haven't supplied your 'proof'. Why am I not surprised by that?
It's especially funny how he is upset about the possibility of supplying this "proprietary information for free". But if we pay him he will "save" us? Pretty bold of him to admit that.
Galaxywave.org was never MY site and is now down due to it being unresponsive to my message and needs.
That was apparently a short relationship, since the domain was created in December. I am somewhat tempted to contact the owners and get their side of the story, but alas, I'm far to busy.
My real name is Bill Hudson, as a few minutes of research in the 'About' menu could have told you. The '2012hoax' account is the administrator account for this site, and I have a bad habit of doing 'administrator stuff' and then failing to log off and back on as 'me'.
But back to the question of 'integrity'… first you say that 'galaxywave.org' is your site, then you say it isn't, but you direct everyone to a show on blogtalkradio (which is only a few days old, by the way) with 'galaxywave.org' plastered all over the show notes… and now you are saying it never was your site.
It appears to me that you are playing fast and loose with semantics, while trying to paint a picture of us somehow "not getting it"… well, sure, I admit, I don't "get it", because you keep changing the story.
As far as the page above is concerned, I'm fairly well satisfied with it, with a couple of tweaks that I'll get to later. No, I don't intend to market your services … that would go against one of the very basic rules of this site: We don't host ads for anybody.
You're not high on my 'to do' list. I'm much more concerned with the effects of someone like Marshall Masters or "Jaysen Rand" than I am with whether or not you and anyone who believes your stuff spend December 21st 2012 sitting in an 'energy vortex' in Sedona or not. You, at least, are not telling people that the world is going to end, and I have to applaud you for that, at the very least.
I fear that this conversation is a waste of my time.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Bill,
I had an arrangment with a webmaster and a promotor. My message was not being presented with integrity, they wanted more money, so I fired them. Your site is maybe 10% accurate and Corey's article maybe 5%. That means 90-95% misinformation. I understand why Pythagoras and Jesus didn't bother to write anything.
By the way, the "world is going to end", depending on how you define "world" and "end". If you consider the Native American cosmological idea of "worlds" beginning and ending, then maybe the fourth WORLD or the fifth WORLD or maybe the sixth WORLD is ENDING. Humanity has been "allowed" self-rule for the last 5000-years or so. THAT world may be ending soon also!
Bill,
Can i ask you for your ,correct, time ,place and date of birth ,or would that be too personal info for you to give .
As you see astrology as a load of rubbish, im sure you wont be worried about sharing it and it showing, exactly who you are.
or am i wrong in that assumption.
Anna.
PS.thats all i ask from you,wont contact you again.
Goodbye
It's astrology - just take Astros if and when he bothers, and you'll be able to identify yourself in it, just like you can identify yourself when you read the fortunes for Gemini despite being an Aquarius, or whatever you care to be (seeing as even star signs are technically out of date nowadays).
As you see astrology as a load of rubbish
We know.
Professor Brian Cox says the same thing. Have you contacted him?
Anna;
I don't care if you do my horoscope or not. As far as what kind of person I am, I think that people would be better served by looking at what I do instead of when and where I was born.
I don't recall the exact time, but I do remember (from my mother) that it was near 2:00 AM on August 9th, 1961, in San Jose, CA.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
As an aside, my mother had her stars read by one of these con artists about 10 years ago. They told her she would have a huge financial gain that would set her up for the rest of her life. She was told this would happen within five years. She's still working by the way. Astrology is total garbage.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
I don't recall the exact time, but I do remember (from my mother) that it was near 2:00 AM on August 9th, 1961, in San Jose, CA.
You were therefore born under the sign of Bobby Lewis.
I really enjoy raw organic cacao powder mixed with raw cashew "nut" butter and/or macademia "nut" butter, with a little honey or agave added in. The "nuts" add an interesting texture and flavor.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/souldancing/2010/03/04/raymond-mardyks-mayan-calendar-and-2012 may be a better link for the interview.
Hi Ray
I also live on another web site that supports 2012, and as a lay person who knows nothing of science or astrology or the Maya people , I hafta say that the only thing I have to go on is being plagued with strange dreams for many years, this led me to Ivan Stien and others and the theory that goes with them'
What Ivan Stien talks about is my dreams
I have never heard of you Ray..
If you dont have "nuts" you will never know what "nut"s are really like
Sorry everyone else ,I am aware that dreams are not scientific , alot of my dreams actually happen within 3 days
I have been having "end of days" dreams for about 12 years……still waiting
and nearly fully prepared
will be looking out for you now Ray
Sorry about your dream coming true after 3 day i hope they were good. Can you dream me some money please. Your dream story make no sense.
alot of my dreams actually happen within 3 days
But after you say this.
I have been having "end of days" dreams for about 12 years……still waiting
Talk about contredicting your self.
The "end of the day" happens every day, just before he goes to sleep to dream … so no contradiction, just inability to understand symbolic language. Dreams started at the time of the "galactic alignment" circa 1998, so he's right on target!
Will i dont know what the dream of end of days mean to me it mean nothing but see that is my opinion. I first probably mist read this post so i must say sorry about that. But to get prepaered for what your dream to end huh i dont get it anyways i will let some els figure this out its out of my league this stuff.
Bill Hudson posing as superhero AstroGeek claims, "Mardyks does not play well with others. He believes …"
Saint Astro-Geek claims to know what I "believe" … omg you are sooooo pathetic. Jenkins does the same bs! Trying out some of his bitch fighting techniques … loser? Hahahhahahahahahahha.
My response and EXPLANATION to you Bill, once again: I don't take s*** from a******s , like you.
Dear readers, most of the Raymond Mardyks page is b******t. It even quotes Jenkins, for Christ's sake, without credit (vitriol?); who by the way posted "slander" first in 1998 after he stole and made a name for himself with my "galactic alignment" technique. I wrote a "satire" as a response just recently, after 10 YEARS! Contrary to what this page states, naturally, it is still on the web, Google: Let's Get Stupid About 2012. Way funnier than this site.
Like Jenkins, Bill Hudson works for the "dark side" of the force, beware. Go surf somewhere else. Listen to those with open hearts. Stay away from "haters" like Bill Hudson. Seek the light of truth. Trust your heart.
GALACTIVATION 2013! LOVE IS NOW.
Just found your link to the SATIRE entitiled Let's Get STUPID About 2012. There is a PG-13 version for the innocent there also ….. hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Link it up, dude!
"he alone could imagine that the end of the 13th Baktun occurring on or near the December solstice was significant to the Mayans." is John Major Jenkins, not Raymond Mardyks. Too much to drink last night Bill? Wake up confused again? This page is actually getting WORSE, Bill. It is Maya, Bill, NOT Mayan. D***, you are thick. Bathroom break is over … gotta get back to work … flush the toilet for me, will ya, Bill. Thanks.
Just want to know Ray how old are you sir?
The Pein article says he was 53 at the time it was written. I don't know when his birthday is.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
If you subtract about 41 years, I'd believe it. Surely no adult could be so juvenile, both in his emotional development and his puerile bathroom "humor."
And such a genious surely knows that slander is spoken. Libel is written. I have actually enjoyed his comments…I often wonder if other proponents are also this hard headed and stubborn — not to mention crazy.
Good point there. Thanks Cameo. Maybe you can help Bill and the others here with the word "SATIRE".
Wiki has this (emphasis is mine): "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form … In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are censured by ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent of improvement."
Bill. Bill. AstroGeek … Pay attention here! SATIRE. SATIRE. SATIRE.
My SATIRE on 2012 is here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=470501034&blogId=485788843
PG-13 Version is here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=470501034&blogId=530744397
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
… "genius", Cameo, "genius" … love ya anyway <3
It was just a test to see if he would catch it…which he didnt.
Or, it was just another long day at work. Never post with a fried brain…right Ray? Oh, wait….forgot who i was asking.
Contrary to what this page states, naturally, it is still on the web, Google: Let's Get Stupid About 2012.
Actually, I believe that I said that it is still on the web, but that the original is gone. Do try to keep up.
It even quotes Jenkins, for Christ's sake, without credit (vitriol?)
Of course, only Jenkins would use a word like 'vitriol'. I'll make sure I never use it again, just to keep you happy, Ray.
Hey, maybe I'm actually Jenkins? Or maybe I'm channeling Jenkins! Yeah! Then I can still use 'vitriol'. Cool! Maybe next time I'll use 'zephyr' and 'alliteration' too. I like those words as well.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
The original on-line version of "Let's Get Stupid About 2012" is here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=470501034&blogId=485788843
The PG-13 version is below it, if you want to link that up also. What you have linked now is more of the same kind of s*** by someone other than myself that you seem to prefer. If this was a class assignment, I'd give you a "D".
You really should put up the complete Hoopes quote there, Bill. Scared of the truth? You could be more respectful of the fact that the most knowledgeable person about 2012 and the Maya calendar has taken the time to help you not be such a f****-up on your web site. The grace period may be over.
What I have to say about 2012 in my own words can be found here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=470501034&blogId=515814471
You are not channeling Jenkins. You are being used by the same "dark" entities.
(edit: Once again I have to clean up one of your posts. Please try to remember that this site is being read by kids as well as adults. Do you talk to your own children this way?)
The original on-line version of "Let's Get Stupid About 2012" is here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=470501034&blogId=485788843
I'll see to it that the footnote is updated.
You really should put up the complete Hoopes quote there, Bill. Scared of the truth?
Not at all, which is why I referenced the original story. I also had a very pleasant email exchange with Hoopes and a few other people regarding this page. Some very interesting stuff.
You could be more respectful of the fact that the most knowledgeable person about 2012 and the Maya calendar …
I'm sure glad you don't let that artificially inflate your ego.
… has taken the time to help you not be such a f***-up on your web site.
I wonder if your hullabaloo about what you think we should do on our website (not mine, since there are several authors) doesn't also have to do with the fact that the above page is now showing up on the first page of results for a google search on your name? By the way, I'm sure the vigorous commentary you have provided here has aided that effect. Thank you.
However, some of my co-authors are now suggesting that I'm spending too much of my time and energy on you, rather than exposing the other charlatans. I tend to agree with them.
The grace period may be over.
Hm… there appears to be an implied threat here. The grace period of what, I wonder?
What I have to say about 2012 in my own words can be found here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=470501034&blogId=51581447
Read it, thank you. I have had a long day and needed a good laugh.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Glad I could make you happy, Bill. I'm concluding this now on that positive note.
Makin' sure though that you read this about "satire".
Wiki has this (emphasis is mine): "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form … In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are censured by ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent of improvement."
One more time:
"Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form … In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are censured by ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent of improvement."
" … he alone could imagine that the end of the 13th Baktun occurring on or near the December solstice was significant to the Mayans…" is total BS and is more Jenkins. You are confused. The ending date IS NOT based on a SOLSTICE! This site s***! Sooooo full of misinformation. People who believe what you write must be really stupid.
Edit by Astrogeek: I know this is difficult for you to understand, Ray, but kids read this site. Disagree with us as much as you want, but please, keep it G-Rated
Mr. Mardyks said
People who believe what [AstroGeek writes] must be really stupid.
Perhaps so. But we're not too stupid to understand something he told you earlier:
edit: Once again I have to clean up one of your posts. Please try to remember that this site is being read by kids as well as adults. Do you talk to your own children this way?
I'm sure you wouldn't want any parents out there to deprive their children of your life-saving revelations because of your language. So why not write your posts with as much profanity as you wish, then spend a few minutes self-editing them before submitting them?
Oh, and by the way, the parent page of this forum page is now #4 on the first page of results for a google search on "Raymond Mardyks", right after the empty 'Fieldwerks' page (another disagreement, I presume?) and the two pages on Jenkins' website. This forum page itself is #5 right ahead of the Amazon.com page for Sedona Starseed (ouch, that must sting).
So, Ray, once again I offer you the opportunity to explain in clear language what the 'ending date' is based on. I know it is not based on a solstice, but you are the one who raised the issue in this discussion in this post, where you said:
The "galactic alignment", which I was the first to clearly discuss (1987, 1991) involves the position of the Sun at the solstices aligning with the galactic plane/equator [1998-2001 (Sept 2001, the time of the 9:11)]. One of several astrological factors that point to 2012 as highly significant. (emphasis added)
So, pardon me very much for taking you at your word. Perhaps you'd like to modify what you said?
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site.
Ray Mardyks (guest) 08 Sep 2010 18:59
Ever play pool? Know how you line up a shot before making it? The "galactic alignment" occurred during the thirteen solstices from September 1998 through September 2001. Notice, if you read my on-line work, how I forecasted the time of the 9:11 Event at least four years before it happened. This "alignment" is analogous to the alignment of a pool stick with the white ball and the ball being aimed at. The "alignment" occurs before the shot is made. The galactic alignment occurred a 13-tun cycle in the Maya calendar before 2012, the date in this analogy, when the "shot" will be made. The ending date is the agreed upon expiration of a contractual agreement between extraterrestrials, that anthropologists would label the "gods" of the Maya. I don't need to modify anything I have said. It seems many people just don't have what it takes to understand, or maybe don't care to, being too busy being insulting and generally acting like an ass. I have been repeating the same data for over 10-years. Sedona Starseed was taken off the market and is out of print, as are all my books. I am not into this for the money. My motives are beyond your comprehension. As far as my colorful language goes, I kinda like the little stars being used to censore my communication style. Keep looking for fault in my character, keep acting like an a**hole and you'll never get the 2012 message … ever.
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Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site. by Ray Mardyks (guest), 08 Sep 2010 18:59
Ray Mardyks (guest), 08 Sep 2010 18:59
Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site.
Don't mind me jumping in here, I just want to make sure I'm reading this right.
2012 will spell doom because a galactic alignment occurred back in '98 through to '01. But it's only a doomsday if/because extraterrestrials have a contractual agreement. Is that the gist of it?
Because if it is, I can say that in the future, something will be bombed because I found my socks were both pointing in the same direction when I took them off the pile this morning… How is that any different to this galactic alignment claim?
What makes you right, and my socks wrong?
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Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site. by 
3WMElliott, 08 Sep 2010 19:23
Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site.
I hereby christen 3WMElliot's socks the 'Socks of Doom'.
Now you have the 'Socks of Doom' and the 'Moon Spoon'. Whatever will we do?
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
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Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site. by 
Astrogeek, 08 Sep 2010 20:25
Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site.
I don't suppose you'd like to define "galactic alignment?" Tell me if you disagree with this astronomical definition. The Earth's solstice points crossed the galactic equator (as per the IAU 1958 definition) in 1998. That's all there is. Is your definition different to this? Why pretend it stretches to September 2001? Ah yes, 9/11.
And of course, since the direction in which the Earth's axis and solstices happen to be pointing is important only in the vicinity of the Earth, the fact that an imaginary line (the line of solstices) coincides momentarily with the galactic plane is about as important as a pencil on my desk pointing towards the Eiffel Tower.
Now let's hear your definition.
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Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site. by 
bikenbeer2000, 08 Sep 2010 20:25
Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site.
Ray M (guest) 08 Sep 2010 21:48
@bb2000
Already done circa 1997: Here's the link. Scroll down to the second article.
Galactic Alignment by Raymond Mardyks
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Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site. by Ray M (guest), 08 Sep 2010 21:48
Ray M (guest), 08 Sep 2010 21:48
Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site.
OK. At your link we find:
Mardyks stated there, "It has also been calculated that the solstices align with the galactic plane in 1998-99. 1999 is halfway between the Harmonic Convergence in 1987 and the 2012 end date of the Mayan calendar."
But if we look here, we find:
The precise alignment of the solstice point with the Galactic equator was calculated to occur in 1998 (Jean Meeus, Mathematical Astronomy Morsels, 1997 - mentioned by Jenkins at http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm ). This date was further refined by Smelyakov to May 7 1998 (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TIMEWAVEZERO2012/message/15675).
So it's not 1998-99 as you claim but pretty much in the middle of 1998. 1998 is halfway between 1987 and er… 2009. A bit of fiddling with the numbers, eh?
And where does 2001 and the 13 solstices come into it? How do you cram 13 solstices into 3 years?
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Re: Your "Full Frontal Nudity" links are perverted and sick, as is this site. by bikenbeer2000, 08 Sep 2010 23:12
Always disparaging remarks and never any positive feedback, acknowledgement or appreciation. I guess that's is how you treat your kids and others and just needs to be accepted as who you are. I think you are really an a**hole. Kids understand what THAT means, I'm sure. Somethings are obvious.
Always disparaging remarks and never any positive feedback, acknowledgement or appreciation.
Perhaps because you're, you know, an idiot.
Somethings [sic] are obvious.
Like your idiocy.
Maybe Juju that is why I have been quoted in the Wall Street Journal (June 1991) as an authority on solar eclipses. By the way, that's a newspaper.
Maybe Juju that is why I have been quoted in the Wall Street Journal (June 1991) as an authority on solar eclipses.
The Wall Street Journal quotes idiots every day. You think you're special? Oh, that's right, you do.
By the way, that's a newspaper.
You can be quoted by the president on national television. Magic still won't be real, pseudo-science will still be false, and you'll still be an idiot.
Yeah… Wall Street Journal bad example to try to justify yourself. It has, indeed, quoted idiots time and time again.
Good to see your theories are right up there with UFO Sightings and Government Conspiracies.
Good game?
My apologies for questioning you (Snrk), but… why should we believe what you say the Maya say, when the Maya themselves say nothing of such significance is going to occur? I'm baffled when someone who is clearly not Mayan, and yet shoves claims of what they calendar was making of significance, is basically telling us to ignore the very people who are the descendants of said people and their works.
Now I'm sure you can say something like "Oh they're hiding the truth!", but then I ask "Why?". In fact, many Mayan chieftains who have spoken openly about it have stated disgust at the falsehood shoved down their throats.
Why is so much significance put on the Mayan Calendar, which we've clearly been told and have clearly researched it's significance is about equal to the Gregorian Calendar flipping to January 1st. Are people so convinced the Mayan are hiding some deep, dark secret?
I mean, okay. Let's go with the theory the 'current' Mayan Calendar is a false one by 'Mayanists'. How come that very calendar is used by the same sects that have been using 'The Mayan Calendar' for centuries? Or do you believe the Mayans are using this 'false' calendar to 'throw us off' again?
And why does 2012 HAVE to involve 'Doomsday'? Or 'Aliens'? Or just about anything that some people have to lift an eyebrow over? Can't it just be a big 'Happy New Years' party like it is strongly suggested?
No?
Okay.
So, let me sum this all up.
1) The Modern Day Mayans are liars.
2) The 'Modern Day' Mayan Calendar used by the same people have used the 'Real Mayan Calendar' is a lie.
3) All the people who research the Maya and have actually spoken to them are liars.
4) You understand the '2012' message, and perhaps a select few do, and everyone else is wrong.
… Okay. I think I got this right. Er, I'm sorry Ray… but I'm gonna have to go with the people who devised their calendar and had the teachings of it passed down for generations. As convinced as you are of some 'hidden message' of the Dresden Codex and the 'truth' of the 'real' Mayan Calendar… gonna have to go by the people themselves, you know?
I mean, look at it this way mate. Do you really want to be right about all this? Wouldn't you be just as happy being wrong? Nobody goes boom, everyone lives happy-go-lucky? I don't see an advantage in you being 'right' other than you stroking your own ego. Or, well, we'd all apparently be dead but that's not the point.
I just don't understand why people keep trying to put significance on a single date, you know? And those who are devout to 'God' and 'Jesus' would have to state that a date specified to be 'doomsday' is the one date that can NOT be as such. But… whatever.
And… considering the 'Censored from Wikipedia' article you linked just seems to jerk off your name left and right in an attempt to hail yourself as something greater than one of many individuals that the Maya themselves, and the actual expert researchers of said people, call a joke and are rightly pissed the hell off about.
But… whatever. Why did you come back, again? Did you get shoved off all the other playgrounds?
Obviously he wants to boost our page about him to #1 in the search rankings for "Raymond Mardyks". Currently we're number 4 behind JMJ's two 'responses' to Mardyks and the empty 'fieldwerks' page is still number 1.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Last blast here Bill. You asked for support for my claims and the reason you are repeatly being called an [bleep] here is due to your leaving out the first portion of Hoopes' quote: “He knows a great deal more about this calendar stuff than many people out there who are presenting themselves as experts, …” There are more reasons but this may be understandable by you.
You have quite a crew of abusive friends here.
For the record: The 2012 date is an astrological forecast from the Dresden Codex. Neither the Maya nor myself associate this date with "doomsday". People like Bill Hudson and sites like 2012hoax do. If you want to be #1 in associating 2012 with doomsday, Bill, go ahead.
I believe I'm done here. How the Dresden Codex forecasts two solar eclipses in 2012, ACCURATELY TO THE DAY, can be found posted at AZTLAN (July 2010).
@Moo: As far as the "aliens" are concerned, the Maya calendar is their "schedule". They have plans and probably won't bother informing abusive humans such as yourself …. and Bill.
Yeah, because I'm sure it's the same 'schedule' as the pyramids are claimed to be. And Atlantis. And every other thing in the world.
Why do they keep coming here just to say 'we'll be back later. FOR REAL THIS TIME!' and it just so happens to be 2012 this time? Kind of suspicious, if you ask me.
But hey, you're probably right. I'm just an 'abusive human'. And you're the one throwing slurs and insults around to your hearts delight.
Pot. Kettle. Black?
Maybe.
Yeah… I'm sorry, guy. No one ever said the Dresden Codex wasn't a text that was able to 'predict' (I hate that word. It makes it sound like the Mayan's didn't have the ability to forecast eclipses. Oh wait they did.) eclipses and other such things written within it. But please keep in mind the Dresden Codex is NOT the original of the texts it deciphers. It was also restored after receiving heavy damage, which leads to questionable content that may or may not have been inserted during it's restoration.
But, you apparently have the Codex in your hands right now, and can read between the lines for where it speaks of aliens and the truth of the Maya and such.
I'm asking again, why do modern-day Maya call people like you absolutely nutty?
Copies of the Dresden Codex were made circa 1880, before the water damage during WWII. FYI, There are no people "like" me. There is "me" and you would be best served by showing more respect.
You are a spokesperson for the Maya now?
That's all for now Moo. Thanks for sharing your ignorance.
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@Moo. The Dresden Codex contains numbers that are specific dates and specific astronomical events. It is a book that can be read, dude. Take some time to educate yourself about this, it may be worth your while … or just be a dumb abusive [bleep] like Bill … your choice. PEACE
Don't start that again, Ray - Astrogeek
Last blast here Bill.
Promise?
Really, Ray, you are a minor figure in the whole 2012 nonsense. The page above would be much smaller if it weren't for your interjections, complaints and abuse.
I have much more of a problem with the profiteers than I do with you, but you keep interjecting yourself in it, claiming that all of the other people got their ideas from you, but they got them all wrong. You claim you are smarter than everybody, that everybody steals from you, that you never get the credit you deserve, that only you have the super-secret knowledge of what is going to happen in 2012, but you're not telling. You blunder through your life whining about the respect you don't get, while leaving a trail of wrecked relationships in your wake. You seek out the attention of the press (Corey Pein, for example) but then heap abuse on him when he doesn't write his article the way you want it to be written. You apparently can't even get along with the websites that you contract to sell your services through. That has been your modus operandi with everybody, not just this forum.
By the way, once again, this is not my crew, not my group, and not even my forum. I may own the domain and the wikidot account, but the content comes from everybody. In your own weird twisted way, I suppose you get a certain satisfaction that everybody thinks that you are a nutbar.
Whoop-de-doo. Get a life.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
I agree, Ray. Your abuse is tiring. For someone who complains of being abused for your beliefs, you sure don't do yourself any favors.
And no, I am not a Maya Spokesperson, but neither are you. We have heard them speak their peace about 2012, and how insulting you and everyone else who force their beliefs down their throats are to their culture and their ancestors.
But, obviously you are right. The people who you claim you know more about are obviously wrong.
I'm done. You're not worth giving further attention. Enjoy being a nobody.
Bill says, "interjections, complaints and abuse". I believe I have answered questions, been informative and clarifying. The only good material about 2012 on this site is what I have contributed and free of charge at that. I have used colorful language to get the message across, hopefully, that your site is sooooooo full of [bleep], as are you. I tried using respectful language and articulate responses in the beginning and then realized that to be understood by your "crowd" that it would be best using "common language". I'm just fitting in with the tone and character of this site. It's been fun. Am I getting through here, Bill? Your site [bleep], is totally full of [bleep] and you come across like a real loser and [bleep]. If you don't understand that last sentence, ask one of the kids you profess to be protecting … they maybe can explain it to you.
It is not everybody, Bill. I have gone out of my way to try and educate those of you with "special needs".
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G-Rated, Ray, keep it G-Rated - Astrogeek
… I'm rather new to the site. It's hard for me to be part of 'the crowd'. So… you attacked an innocent person, really.
… I am sorry you have fallen so far. Now, I am done speaking to you. Such a crude individual. I mourn for your kin.
MooMoo
You started it for yourself with comments like this: Did you get shoved off all the other playgrounds?
Innocent person, really?
Get off my swing … NOW.
Thanks for the link to this:
He spends a lot of time online and has long corresponded with John Hoopes, a Harvard- and Yale-trained anthropologist who specializes in Central America and teaches at the University of Kansas. Hoopes, who has researched the origins of the 2012 meme, calls it a “fruitful” exchange. “He knows a great deal more about this calendar stuff than many people out there who are presenting themselves as experts,” Hoopes says. “He’s not an academic. He’s not a scientist. He’s not an expert on the ancient Maya. He’s a professional astrologer….[which] is like saying, ‘this is a very qualified fortune-teller.’”
Nevertheless, Mardyks has more expertise than the typical 2012 blogger, in an area few can claim to truly understand.
Last laugh: Hahahhahhahahhaha[insert 1100 more 'h' and 'a's here]hah
oops, you left out part of the quote. I fixed it for you - Astrogeek
… and Hoopes concludes, "I think Ray does have a point.”
To respond to Hoopes, and not to Ray's ego… the typical 2012 blogger has no idea what they're talking about. At all. They compare random crap to even more random crap and call it a day.
Ray has done some twisted form of research, yes.
Astrogeek has done legitimate, proven research. Commonly accepted, but Ray doesn't like it none the less.
Neither of you are 'typical' 2012 bloggers, but Ray you're still in the crazy clump these days, going by your attitude.
Astrogeek is not typical because he's against the 2012 BS and actually shows his work against it.
You're not typical because you show SOME work but you still go off the same woo-woo deep end. You 'know' what you're talking about. Even though you're wrong.
Damnit, I need to stop responding. I just hate when people read something and twist it to their definition.
You're not the same level of crazy as most 2012 Supporters, Ray… but you still a little Cocoa Puff'd.
“He’s not an academic. He’s not a scientist. He’s not an expert on the ancient Maya. He’s a professional astrologer….’”
Also proves my point you have no idea what you're talking about, either.
PS: Astrology is a pretty low form of… anything. Way to waste your time. Kaybye.
So what exactly is Astrology.
Horoscopes, fortunes, such things using astrological signs.
It's… yeah. Your mileage may vary.
So if i read my hrroscope in the newspaper i could probably qualify as an Astroliger.
Mardyks: Because we all know that some adults still act like angry, hormonally challenged 13 year old's.
Tsk, tsk. Show some maturity.
Wie Sie säen, so sollst du ernten.
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