David Morrison / Discussion

This is the discussion related to the wiki page David Morrison.

Tomy (guest) 18 Dec 2010 06:05

Nibiru doesn't exists. This is a fact. But i was thinking that IF Nibiru existed and were on a collision course for Earth, NASA's David Morrison would say: "Nibiru doesn't exists". Why? NASA is a government agency, and general hysteria could be bad for the country (USA in this case) and his economy, like assaults, riots, crisis and panic. So, there will be ever a conspiracy. Not in this case, because even amateur and professional astronomers (Ph.Ds: my preferred).
But NASA has experience that normal astronomers does not have.

So, what is your opinion?

Cameron (guest) 18 Dec 2010 07:01

sigh…

Can you please look through past discussions before posting? These topics have been covered many times.

No, Nasa is not capable of a world wide cover up. It is science, not conspiracy.

Tomy (guest) 18 Dec 2010 15:52

Oh, sorry. It's true, there were another topics like this one.
Thank you!

Cameron (guest) 18 Dec 2010 16:04

Its fine. Also take a look at David Morrison's last answered question on his page today. He answers that specific question. It is obvious that he is very passionate about science. Otherwise, you would think he would be retired by now! He would not benefit from lying to the public.

obaeyens 18 Dec 2010 12:02

You are assuming that your country = the complete world.
Your country is actually only 310 million people compare this to the 7 billion people on Earth or so that is only 4.4%.
95.6 % of the rest of the would would notice it.

TheGreatJuju 18 Dec 2010 16:59

It's also assuming that a person's employment at NASA creates a loyalty to some nebulous conspiracy over the conducting of good science and basic human decency. I don't think that's a good assumption at all. I don't like the government, either, but attaching evil attributes to everyone who is a member thereof is just silly.

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Winters (guest) 18 Dec 2010 17:36

Yeah many Of my our neibours from the south think that way Abaeyens hehe They tend to forget there is more then there country ;o) I wonder what is the percentage of Canada with 36 million yeah i said it 36 million only in our large country.

I have to say we are greatfull the the U.S. do exist.

David is all about the truth there is no cover up believe me this not a movie hahha its real life.

Don't believe everything you read or watch its all for show and ratings.

Even that wikileak I am not so sure about sound a little flaky!!

wrong

theweatherman 31 Jan 2011 01:21

its actually 4.7% not 4.4 %

bryan` (guest) 31 Jan 2011 07:54

besides, i thought nasa works with other scientists and universities in the country and worldwide. so if they would get any of that information, it would be form the public, and as he says, you cant shut up at least 100,000 scientists worlwide. i dont see any possible way to keep these things a secret

juanita (guest) 13 Nov 2011 18:18

I believe David Morrinson :)

Cern 01 Jul 2011 11:15

sorry guys…

took this off of the comments section of the fora video

It's amusing to see so many otherwise intelligent people lapping up NASA-speak like dogs and a bowl of ice cream.

and

Sir, I agree with all you say, have been inside Uxmal, invited in 88, been to most ruins, and caves, at night even
Palenque, Tikal, San Andres, Monte Alban all at night, this guy is an idiot in the vid
I also worked with Mayans in 80's Guatemala and live El Salvador since 1994
the math is correct
I am where the safest place to be, yes even by the ocean, we rise up
whatever
meditation will tie all you ignorant 'sheeples' to the same universal energy
so all you idiots, I will ask
have you tried macrocosmic orbit meditation?
I am engineer

whatever
I am blessed to be so enlightened
and a note, Mr. Xavier S., is also close to correct
have a nice day

What does he mean by "the math is correct"?

Cern 01 Jul 2011 11:32

More comments…

I just don't know how to speak on this people should really try to understand this subject but as us being that ignorant we get lured into believing such contraptions that are far more unimaginable for us to comprehend nowadays.

This fellow doesnt have much awareness of the people he pillories, he puts words in their mouth and plays to the gullibility of his audience, and is the very person he warns everyone else about..

Gary A 01 Jul 2011 11:37

What does he mean by "the math is correct"?

First lesson. Never take anyones word for it just because they say so. This person shows no math whatsoever, so how can we judge if it's correct or not. This is a baseless assertion, it's meaningless.

Second lesson, beware anyone who says:

meditation will tie all you ignorant 'sheeples' to the same universal energy

It's the "I know something you don't know" argument. He's claiming that people who take a reputable source like NASA and believe their data are sheep. Typical woo speak, ignore it.

I love this part:

I am engineer

And? This is an appeal to authority, this person thinks that because he's an engineer, it gives his story a bit more credit. He could be a transparent wall engineer (aka a window cleaner) for all we know, so saying "I am engineer" is once again a baseless assertion.

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bikenbeer2000 01 Jul 2011 11:44

What does he mean by "the math is correct"?

The author of such an incoherent piece wouldn't know correct maths if it hit him in the face.
Anyone who says "have you tried macrocosmic orbit meditation?" is probably beyond help. Why pay any attention to this sort of nonsense?

Cern 01 Jul 2011 11:47

well it is clear he doesnt have very good english, but see I posted another piece on the comment forum… It is to be found rather interesting I must say

Kalopin 12 Nov 2011 01:43

It is my belief we all need to lose the complacancy and arrogance! There are so many intracacies and variables to consider, so many different scenerios, most of which haven't even been considered. I mean, to know that at any point, anything can fall from space and hit anywhere and just to accept it? What if a meteor or even some of our own space junk were to hit a refinery, chemical plant or maybe a nuclear power plant?, and we steadily build without adequate safety, who feels responsible? There should be a much greater sense of urgancy, and much more capitol spent trying to map out our path. I think its wonderful what NASA has attempted lately trying to find all the NEOs, and with such little funding, and although I wasn't to thrilled to find out that J.F.K. was responsible for blasting a nuke out in the stratusphere, I think it would be great if we could find another leader with as much fortitude and ideals to reshape current thinking.

3WMElliott 12 Nov 2011 01:46

This is the discussion related to the wiki page David Morrison.

That post has nothing to do with David Morrison. Take it elsewhere.

Kalopin 12 Nov 2011 06:23

Is this Professor Morrison that works for Ames Research Center? I didn't get the wrong Ames Ressearch Center, did I? Isn't David Morrison involved with many current missions, some of which include the health of the environment? I would consider finding a NEO before an impact part of the health of our environment, wouldn't you?
And didn't this gut Tomy2011 start in with something aboutsome Nibiru conspiracy?
Why don't you two just stay on topic and lower your little critisizm levels?
Anyway,I'm thinking Prof. Morrison was involved with this. I was reading an article that came out 9/23/09 about cosmic rays at an all time high, and the graph showed them rising even higher through 2011 It said they had raised significantly and were 19% higher than the last fifty years, Is there an updated graph to show the actual amount of cosmic rays just outside our atmosphere? Does this mean astronauts will need better shielding? Do you believe more radiation is getting through the ozone to us?

TheGreatJuju 12 Nov 2011 06:59

Oh, the backpedaling and shoehorning. It's a real joy to watch.

I was reading an article that came out 9/23/09 about cosmic rays at an all time high, and the graph showed them rising even higher through 2011 It said they had raised significantly and were 19% higher than the last fifty years, Is there an updated graph to show the actual amount of cosmic rays just outside our atmosphere? Does this mean astronauts will need better shielding? Do you believe more radiation is getting through the ozone to us?

Of course, anybody who bothers to actually study things like this should be able to tell you that cosmic rays levels always increase as solar activity dips. Since the Sun was still veeeery quiet in 2009, a veeeery high level of cosmic rays should be totally unsurprising. 'Kay, sport? Glad to help.

Keep going, and you're about to get introduced to the Ivan Protocol. It's a fun little game we introduced a while back, because as much as we value open discussion and such, some trolls just can't seem to quit.

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Moo (guest) 12 Nov 2011 08:26

I miss Ivan. He was fun!

Kalopin 12 Nov 2011 19:33

Hey Jujubee, LOL!, just converse. Yea, less solar, but many more supernovae. Several are saying there were a few really bight ones lately, also the couple of comets hitting the sun csusing sunspots didn't help either, I reallty just wanted to know if they knew if the radiation was gonna go higher.

TheGreatJuju 12 Nov 2011 22:22

Hey Jujubee, LOL!, just converse.

Pointing out your stupidity is conversing.

Yea, less solar, but many more supernovae. Several are saying there were a few really bight ones lately,

"Several," eh? That's nice and a specific.

also the couple of comets hitting the sun csusing sunspots didn't help either,

Uh-huh. Of course, no scientist has actually said that is the case. We're plunging headlong toward solar maximum, and sunspots have been a near daily reality this year, comets or no.

I reallty just wanted to know if they knew if the radiation was gonna go higher.

The answer to that question is in the very article you referenced previously, if only you could be bothered to pay attention and think.

Further off-topic posts in this thread will be deleted.

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Tomy2011 12 Nov 2011 03:14

It is my belief we all need to lose the complacancy and arrogance!

Who's 'we'? Also, this thread is called "David Morrison". -This subject- doesn't fit here.

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Kalopin 12 Nov 2011 06:31

So, I should help you acuse NASA [ and Prof. Morrison!] of a conspiracy to hide Planet Nibiru, that you already know doesn't exist? Is that the subject?

Wolf Bird 12 Nov 2011 13:38

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bikenbeer2000 12 Nov 2011 23:08

To get this thread back on track, David Morrison has replied to comments on his recent YouTube video, posted 3 weeks ago, which gives an update on Nibiru (Summary: It still doesn't exist).
Myself, obaeyens, ThreeFangCat and some others have been doing our best to prevent the thread being taken over by doomsday nutcases. David Morrison dubs us the 'truth police'.
Here is the first part of his 4 part reply:

This thread is unfortunately dominated by the know-nothings. But thanks to the small band of "truth police" who try to focus on reality, not fantasy.
First: I do not lie, never have, and never will, about scientific issues. That would be both unethical and stupid, since lies will be found out.
Second, my video was not scripted. And none of the critiques have undermined my conclusion that Nibiru does not exist. Instead they stoop to insults and personal attacks.

Kalopin 13 Nov 2011 17:54

We all live on this same ball flying through space with noone at the controls. We all know that so many objects exist with each having its own trajectory, and so far no way to control them either. The fact we have no defense or offense has produced justifiable paranoia. Can we find common ground, a consensus, to understand how precious our time here is, and to try to give the innocent little next generation, at least as much as we have had? I know how I feel about my children, so I feel it would be a magnificent accomplishment to at least try to give them a little more security than we have had. So ask our leaders to consider putting down the bullets and picking up the plans. To give the ones with the knowledge the ways and means to protect this little oasis, so we can all evolve, reshape, reprioritize, find a better tomorrow, and understand how important ALL life is to each animal personally!

3WMElliott 13 Nov 2011 18:04

Can we find common ground, a consensus, to understand how precious our time here is, and to try to give the innocent little next generation, at least as much as we have had?

Not in this thread, for:

This is the discussion related to the wiki page David Morrison.

Go and find another more appropriate thread Kalopin, lest these posts of yours find their way to the archive.

Gary A 14 Dec 2011 08:41

Didn't want to create a new thread just for this. Not sure if any of you spotted this but it appears our old friend Kalopin has taken his deluded ranting to David Morrisons ask an astrobiologist page. Morrisons response is pretty much exactly what numerous people here told him.
http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/question/?id=18511
It appears that everyone here has wasted their time on this clown, who wants to bet he's still spamming his tacky website and ranting at someone else as we speak? What an infuriating idiot.

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Marko S 14 Dec 2011 14:16

I think Kalopin also had a thread on the BAUT forum some time ago about this thing.

Needless to say, it didn't go well…

EDIT:

I tried to find that particular thread on the BAUT forum, but in vain. I'm pretty sure it was there, though. Funny.

I think I was wrong saying that Kalopin started that thread. Not necessarily. I think someone else started it and brought up Kalopin's ideas. But anyways…

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New David Morrison video (Dec 18)

Peter_Y 18 Dec 2012 22:35

A new NASA YouTube video by David Morrison is here :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osLM4BIvSrg
Title : 'NASA Seeks to Debunk Doomsday Prophecy'.

Re: New David Morrison video (Dec 18)

odo77 19 Dec 2012 06:43

I'v been replying to some doomtards on the comments on that video you linked haha.

Re: New David Morrison video (Dec 18)

Peter_Y 19 Dec 2012 12:34

Thanks! … there's a lot of them, eh