I try to explain to my friends that Nibiru, aka planet X (I call it doomball 9000 as my own designation) I got a call a couple weeks ago from Jon one of my best friends and Andrew his older brother asking me questions about Nibiru. "Is it coming?", "is it real?" and i constantly counter with the fact that planet X was a designation given to at the time undiscovered planets/planetoids such as Pluto, etc. and that there is no such object in our solar system with a retrograde orbit. and even then by now we'd see it in the sky just as clear as the moon! even with such facts and the fact that i stated that Nancy Lieder and several other individuals such as Zecharia Sitchin are not scientists and are flawed on their theories, and the fact Lieder needs a straight jacket and an injection of anti psychotics.
I could use some help here. I'm sick of hanging out every weekend and having to sit through you tube videos by Yowusa and several other 2012 cultists.
Believe me, I know exactly how you feel. Ever since I stuck my neck out and said "Planet X" is fake, and "Nibiru" is fake, I've had people trying to behead me.
Here's the facts:
If a planet the size that is claimed existed anywhere close enough to cause the kinds of effects claimed, we would be able to see it.
Lieder's claims are so muddled that it is difficult to make out what she means. In some places she describes planet X as "4 times the size of earth" and "23 times the mass of earth" and "highly magnetic" and "smoldering". In other places she claims that it is a 'brown dwarf' or 'red dwarf' star, and heavier than Jupiter (Jupiter is about 318 times as massive as the Earth). When her errors are pointed out to her she tends to react badly, and blame our "limited Earth science", or accuse the person of being engaged in "disinfo" (disinformation).
Sitchin's Nibiru is based on his own unique interpretation of a cylinder seal, which he claims shows 12 planets. When his interpretations are shown to be incorrect, he reacts by claiming that the scientists (who are using literally hundreds of years worth of translations) have it all wrong, and only he can interpret the seal correctly.
There is no planet X and there is no Nibiru. The described objects are impossible, on impossible orbits, and posses impossible attributes. Any planet on such a long and narrow orbit would either drastically affect the orbits of the other planets and/or be ejected by the gravitational effects of the gas giants.
They are totally bogus. Anyone who claims that they know where these objects are can collect an easy $5,000 by providing the coordinates at http://nibiruchallenge.blogspot.com/ (not our site, by the way)
In the past people have provided coordinates that turned out to be one of the known planets, the great nebula in Orion, the Andromeda galaxy, the Pleiades, or other known objects.
Any object of the size claimed on the orbit claimed would be visible and would be moving rapidly, and would have attracted the attention of the hundreds of thousands of amateur astronomers worldwide. Claims that it can only be seen from the South Pole are bogus too, because it's been a few years since it was supposed to be here, and therefore the entire sky over the southern hemisphere has been viewable (unless of course it's invisible, or performing an impossible inward spiral, or (most likely) doesn't exist).
So ask your brother and your friends: where is it? Have them provide the coordinates. I have an account with a global telescope rental company, and I can image any part of the sky within a few hours.
The proponents of these objects have never been able to meet this challenge.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
If I may invoke Phil Plait The Bad Astronomer, he has a very good section on his site dealing with Planet X and a recent history of the phenomenon. Well worth reading.
Link to said site:
Thanks. They have finally come to reason for once. they haven't completely gotten off the 2012 nonsense but at least we can stick a fork in the Nibiru Hysteria. Andrew and Jon finally dropped it. I'd like to see more people speak out against this sort of thing, I mean if the "objects" orbit and size is impossible and coordinates are not panning out and all you're seeing is existing bodies and or black space. logically it does not exist, if you're depending on Youtube and The Kolbrin Bible for Astrological info you need help. People honestly need to stop feeding this incessant garbage.
Hi again Kristopher;
I'm happy to hear that they've seen a glimmer of light. YouTube is not all bad… there are some good scientists talking out about the 2012 thing on YouTube. But Marshall Masters (YOWUSA) is basically selling fear. He's using his site and YouTube to sell his books.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind