can you send this guy an e-mail to join your site? oh :o and can you debunk the link in the summary it's been kind of freaking me out ( and as your website i hope you do a good job debunking it!) and finally can you help him out he also seems a bit freaked out ( and trust me i don't know if hes doing a good job to be honest well lets just say he needs assistance cause most or half of the comments are questioning his research or just go there to troll i reason because his research is a bit poor and he kind of depresses the readers by leaving them in questioning him sometimes. ) So…………………………………….can i count on you guys to help?
oh and i mean the http://www.dailycommonsense.com web that is the one you should where you should help the guy out, this other website http://viewzone2.com/chaturx.html is the one you need to debunk
this other website http://viewzone2.com/chaturx.html is the one you need to debunk
The title of that article is "Will the Mayan Prophecy Really Happen?" Of course, there is no Mayan prophecy. Even if such a thing existed (which it doesn't), all of this hysteria presupposes, for whatever reason, that such a "prophecy" has merit. This particular article invokes Hindu mythology on top of the prevailing misconceptions about the Maya. Notice that, for all the drivel about "Mayan prophecy" scattered across the Web, nobody seems to have ever actually read such a prophecy. It is simply asserted to exist and spoken about in summary, with wacko after wacko lining up to shoehorn his own superstitions and beliefs into this mysterious bit of nonexistent lore.
Aside from the title, the author makes other claims of this nature.
- "Before the ancient Meso-American Mayans' civilization fell into decline, they prophesied the cataclysm that is supposed to happen in 2012 — the end of this Kali Yuga."
The Maya made no such "prophesy."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/11/091106-2012-end-of-world-myths.html
- "However, they must realize that the Mayans, the ones who really knew the secrets of the universe…."
No, they did not. They weren't idiots, but there were other ancient civilizations at least as advanced as, if not more so than, the Maya, such as the Greeks.
- "Or the people who have always claimed to be "Masters of Time"-the Mayans of Meso-America?"
Pure nonsense. The allegedly "super-accurate" Maya didn't even account for leap years. Every four years, they lost an entire day. If the Maya were "Masters of Time," then the Romans were positively "Gods of Time."
- When I first started writing this article about the Mayans and their prophecy….
Wait a minute—where did he find this prophecy? Has he read it? That's quite an accomplishment with something that doesn't even exist.
- However, I decided that if the Mayans are correct, it's too late for words and explanation.
The Maya never made any such prophecy, and yet this guy just keeps invoking it like a given fact.
- Nothing I can write can change things. Let's face it!
That much is correct. No amount of writing or wishing on the part of doomsayers will make this crap true. The best they can hope for is to distort the facts and scare people.
As for the Kukulkan image (I assume it is a tracing of a engraving—the author never identifies it or provides a reference for this or anything else in his article), look at it carefully. Now look carefully at the Mexican symbol below it. Do you honestly see any resemblance between the two? I don't. Even if some resemblance can be gleaned from the two images, through determined squinting and head-tilting, snakes and eagles are not uncommon in symbolism.
Hi Daniel;
I don't think Ben Tremblay needs our help. He pretty much cuts to the chase with his point: "2012 is a business … selling fear".
On the other article, TheGreatJuju has done an excellent job in his response here. The only thing that I would add to what he said is in response to this remarkable passage from the original article:
… They were ultimately driven to Ceylon where they inhabited the province of Maya. Later, they went to the Americas, having been taken there by Kubera and his Yakshas. Read my article about the Mayans. They were ultimately driven to Ceylon where they inhabited the province of Maya. The Mayans were ultimately driven to ceylon, etc., etc.
Before the ancient Meso-American Mayans' civilization fell into decline, they prophesied the cataclysm that is supposed to happen in 2012 — the end of this Kali Yuga.
It surprises and shocks the people of India to find out that the Meso-American Mayans predicted that this Kali-Yuga will end in 2012 AD. Today's Hindus insist that mankind has been in the Kali-Yuga for only 4,000 to 7,000 years. However, they must realize that the Mayans, the ones who really knew the secrets of the universe, were driven out of India and forced to live in Ceylon. There, they inhabited the province of Maya which was named after them. Afterwards, Kubera and his Yaksha subjects took them to Meso-America.
"Ceylon" is modern Sri Lanka. I don't know where the author finds the "province of Maya", unless he refers to the Maya Rata (which translated means "Country of the Sub King") which was a Medieval kingdom on the island. http://lakdiva.org/codrington/chap01.html
The author pulls an old trick here, claiming that similarities in words in two languages indicate that the two languages are connected. Regardless of the fact that many words in different languages sound the same or are spelled the same way, but have no relationship to each other, the author ignores the fact that "Maya" is an artificial group, imposed by the European colonialists. It was originally "Maia" in Spanish, meaning "industrious"… as in "the people who built those massive ruins". The Maya themselves would identify themselves by their language grouping, such as Yucatec, or Quiche, and there were hundreds of them in the region.
In addition, the author makes the claim (disputed by Hindu scholars) that the "Kali Yuga" ends in 2012, and that the end of the Kali Yuga signals a time of change. We've seen this claim before, and have a link to a site discussing this on our Links page.
It surprises and shocks the people of India to find out that the Meso-American Mayans predicted that this Kali-Yuga will end in 2012 AD.
As well it should, since (1) they didn't and (2) the Mayans had no relationship to India.
The author also appears to have a big thing for stating his belief that the Maya were "driven out of India and forced to live in Ceylon"… in the short passage above he states it four times! Repetition does not make something true, and the author does not present any evidence for his assertion, leaving the reader to make the connection between "The Maya" (an artificial name imposed on a collection of Meso-american city-states) and "Maya Rata", the name of a medieval kingdom on the island of Ceylon.
All in all, color me "unimpressed".
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind