Solar Storms

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Thought it wasn't going to be a big thing and not happen until 2013.....

Solar Storms

Angel (guest) 10 Jun 2010 17:41

I saw this today on Yahoo News.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100609/sc_space/moreactivesunmeansnastysolarstormsahead

I am really scared that 2012 is going to be the end. Can someone please read this articlle and help me out?

Thanks…….

Re: Solar Storms

Cameron (guest) 10 Jun 2010 18:00

I see nowhere in this article where it says anything about 2012 or harming life here on Earth. Our Sun has been through nearly 400,000,000 solar cycles without destroying earth. Could it effect our electronics? Sure. But it wouldn't be the end of the world, it would just be costly.

So why is Nasa taking so many precautions? Because we really can't afford to spend more money right now.

You're probably scared of the people's comments on this article, but remember that there are a lot of adults that couldn't even tell you how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the Sun.

Re: Solar Storms

TheGreatJuju 10 Jun 2010 18:09

Angel, this has been discussed repeatedly. Solar maximum is predicted for 2013, and the projection right now is below-average sunspot activity. The sun can ramp up its activity and discharge flares and CMEs at any time.

You seem to be be ignoring a very important line from that article:

"Luckily, much of the damage can be mitigated if managers know a storm is coming. That's why better understanding of solar weather, and the ability to give advance warning, is especially important."

This site's Solar Flares page also mentions this:

"Should such [a Carrington-type event] occur today, there would be massive disruption in electrical grids, possibly long term. What is needed is to beef up our early warning system, and to stockpile spares of critical components. However, the report paints a worst-case scenario where no warning is given, and the electrical grid operators do not have time to take precautions."

I have no idea how you're leaping from that to, "I am really scared that 2012 is going to be the end."

The end of what, and why???

Keep in mind that the Sun gets wilder, on average, every eleven or so years. There is nothing unusual about a quiet Sun becoming more active. In fact, it is expected, as that article you're worrying over explains clearly.

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Re: Solar Storms

Apathy (guest) 11 Jun 2010 14:34

I'm sorry, I don't mean to insult you, but what is scary about the world ending in 2012?

Re: Solar Storms

Jason (guest) 11 Jun 2010 15:06

Many things. I want to have a family more than anything in the world, because I have never had one of my own. Now I have this fear of the world ending soon, and that I wouldn't be able to protect them from a global disaster. So now, I am making myself hold off until this all passes…which is depressing for me. More pain than you could ever imagine.

Now for the next two years I am going to have this "Whats the point" attitude towards life. Not that I don't believe what I see here at 2012hoax, but I just can't figure out how someone could put their money ahead of all the real things that matter so much more. Such as family, friends, and laughter. Whats the point of having all that money, if you have no one to share it with?

I can't figure out the mindset behind all these scientists when they say it is impossible. All I see is "thats not possible." Well, how do you know its not possible? I always hear scientists say "Well, we don't know much about our magnetic field" or "We don't know much about solar activity from the sun, or how it works" or "We don't know much about the Earth's crust, we can't dig a hole that deep." But then I hear them say these claims aren't possible? Why aren't they possible, if we don't know anything about it?

Right now I am sitting here at work, surfing through pages not related with work and risking my job. Do I care? No I don't, because I can't seem to convince myself that it is a hoax…despite all the scientists in the world saying its a fake, despite the fact that all credible people say its a hoax. Whats the point of me sitting here at work and making money that won't matter in a couple of years? But then I also have to ask, "what if it is a hoax?" which really complicates things. Now I have to go to work everyday…and try to live my life normally.

So…whats so scary about it? Try taking your life's dream, being so close to it, and then having it ripped out of your hands right before you can reach it. Thats why it is scary to me.

Re: Solar Storms

EggDude (guest) 11 Jun 2010 16:02

Apathy, not everyone is like you who is so amazingly brave and does nothing but seek to make others' lives miserable. Not sure if I'm thinking of the right word, sadist.

Re: Solar Storms

Apathy (guest) 12 Jun 2010 06:13

I'm not a sadist. I simply know that no matter what happens to me in life, I will die eventually. Instead of using my energy to think about everything I can do here and now I think about what its going to be like after. Thinking in the here and now is fun and all, but it will drive you crazy because there are infinite experiences to be had in life, but we all have a limited amount of time on this planet. If I die tomorrow, I'm not going to think about all the things I didn't do, but what I will be able to do. Death is frightening but its also exciting, what really lies behind the darkness?

Re: Solar Storms

TheGreatJuju 11 Jun 2010 17:05

I can't figure out the mindset behind all these scientists when they say it is impossible.

Which scientists and which events?

All I see is "thats not possible."

Well, at lot of scientists have a lot to say about a lot of subjects, and I imagine a common reaction to 2012 claims is "that's not possible," but I can say for a fact that isn't all they say about it. Just take a look at this site. There's no shortage of information on proposed events being impossible or unlikely, and there's no shortage of information as to why. If "that's not possible" is all you've seen, then I suspect you just aren't looking very hard.

"Well, we don't know much about our magnetic field"

Who said this? We do know some things, and none of what we know suggests a pole shift in 2012. What we know also suggests these events take hundreds to thousands of years to occur, not overnight or even over a few weeks or years.

"We don't know much about solar activity from the sun, or how it works"

Who said this? We do know a few things about the Sun and how it works, and nothing we know suggests anything out of the ordinary in 2012. See the Solar Flares page, SpaceWeather.com and NASA's SOHO site. Also, Wikipedia's Sun article is well sourced.

"We don't know much about the Earth's crust, we can't dig a hole that deep."

So, because we can't dig a hole through the crust, we can't know much about it? Who told you that? And what exactly do we not know about that you fear points to some tectonic cataclysm in 2012?

Why aren't they possible, if we don't know anything about it?

Do you even try to listen to and understand the explanations given? Because I know scientists give reasons and evidence. You seem to believe otherwise, but that belief is simply incorrect.

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