What about other Dates?

Summary:

I understand this is a website about 2012, but what about the other doomsday threat dates like from the ABHOTA site? Can any care to say those aren't true?

What about other Dates?

Anna (guest) 28 Jun 2010 06:32

There are all these different dates on ABHOTA that "predict" the end. For eg one is in 2010 and another in 2011…can anyone tell me those arent true because im scared and im only 15 and i dont want to die

Re: What about other Dates?

TheGreatJuju 28 Jun 2010 07:55

Anna, look at all the doomsday dates prior to now. I don't think you have anything to worry about. ;)

As for the 2010 doomsday, I presume you're talking about this:

The final year according to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. (Shaw p.223)

You can read about the HOGD here and here. Apparently, it's a secret society sort of like the Freemasons. They believe in all kinds of strange things, like rituals, tarot magic and geomancy. It's very silly, and I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

The two 2011 claims are equally craptastic. There is no such thing as a photon belt that will wreck the earth, and the "doorway to opportunity" that's alleged to close on 12/31/2011 is purely the product of someone's overactive imagination. Cheers.

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Re: What about other Dates?

bikenbeer2000 28 Jun 2010 11:22

Hi Anna

I've visited the ABHOTA web site and counted up the predictions since 1995. We find that during your lifetime alone, the number of failed predictions comes to 195. The number of successful ones comes to 0. It could hardly be more clear that the people who make these predictions never get anything right.

I tend to treat them more for their comedy value than anything else. People scratch around for excuses as to why their prediction went wrong, then say they really meant another date which then also turns out to be a failure.

None of these predictions should be taken seriously and ABHOTA stands as a good illustration of how doomsday predictions can be ignored. These people unfailingly get it wrong every time.

Re: What about other Dates?

Anna (guest) 29 Jun 2010 01:34

Thank you TheGreatJuJu and bikenbeer200. Another question: when do you think will be the TRUE end of the world? And I can expect to live out my whole life without the threat of the world ending? All this crap stuff has made me very paranoid and frightened. Thanks for your input

Re: What about other Dates?

Astrogeek 29 Jun 2010 01:55

You'll have to wait a bit.

There are two events that come to mind. The first one will occur sometime between 1 and 2 billion years from now. As the sun ages, it slowly grows hotter in a well-known pattern of stellar evolution. Sometime before 2 billion years from now it will have heated up the earth to the point where liquid water will not exist (Assuming we do not develop the technology to move the earth outward in its orbit, of course).

In about 4 or 5 billion years, the sun will run out of hydrogen (sort of, it's a bit more complex than that, but go with it for now) and will begin burning helium instead. At that point the core of the sun contracts and grows hotter, which heats up the entire outer envelope of the sun, which expands. At that point (Also assuming we don't develop the technology to move the earth out) the earth will most likely be consumed.

So yes, the "end of the world" will get here, eventually. But considering that modern humans have been here for only about a 200,000 years, it is a long, long way off.

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Re: What about other Dates?

Anna (guest) 29 Jun 2010 02:20

So we are not threatened by the end? I know my questions are getting annoying and I'm sorry :P but are there comets that could wipe out humans just like the dinos scheduled for anytime within the next 100 years? And thank you astrogeek for your explanation

Re: What about other Dates?

Kevin (guest) 29 Jun 2010 04:29

There was one such comet predicted for 2036, but later it's orbit was recalculated and considered to be of no threat!

Re: What about other Dates?

Astrogeek 29 Jun 2010 16:18

The biggest threat to us is, well, us.

I'm not just talking about things like environmental damage, pollution, nuclear war, overpopulation, etc. If you look into what kills people, the top things are strokes and heart attacks (for medium- to high- wealth countries).

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Re: What about other Dates?

Alene Y 29 Jun 2010 19:30

Hi Anna,
There are no known objects with any significant chance of impacting Earth for at least the next 100 years. The object mentioned by Kevin is the asteroid Apophis. It will make a close approach on its 2029 pass, but won't hit us. There is a 1 in 250,000 chance of an impact on its next pass in 2036. There is a very narrow "key hole" that, if Apophis managed to pass through it, could change its trajectory causing impact in 2036. As I said, the chance is only 1 in a quarter million of that happening. You have far more chance of dying by an accident in your home than Apophis impacting Earth.

This link goes to the NASA Impact Risk page.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

Re: What about other Dates?

Natalie (guest) 29 Jun 2010 09:27

I know someone named Harold Camping is claiming the world is going to end in less than a year, but he doesn't seem to be someone we should take seriousely. Keep in mind that he already made a similar prediction to the year 1994, which obviously failed.

Other people claim the recent earthquake swarms in Yellowstone are leading up to a volcanic eruption in 2012, but most geologist suggest they are actually caused by tectonic activity rather than magma movement.