the real nemesis/wormwood/nibiru..

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http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/88198587.html

the real nemesis/wormwood/nibiru..

bryan (guest) 16 Jul 2010 02:34

i saw something on this before..but maybe this article might be helpful, and a good additionto stop all this nibiru/wormwood theories to rest. I guess they found the real nemesis…i hope my mortgage is up by 1,300,000 AD.
and regarding all this interestellar dust clouds we should be going through, there is nothing in the nasa websites that say anything about the earth going through a dust clouds.. and i guess people are referring to the snowball earth theory document which states there are no harmful dustclouds in the area. The closest is the dark rift which we wont go through in our lifetime

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bryan (guest) 16 Jul 2010 02:41

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2005/mar/HQ_05066_giant_clouds.html

but this is just theory, there is no suggestion that we are going through it

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bryan (guest) 16 Jul 2010 03:04

sorry again..but here is also another good article to put on this site
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/whole-universe/30-how-a-cloud-of-dust-could-wipe-out-life-on-earth/?searchterm=dust cloud

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RickardM 16 Jul 2010 04:42

These were some good articles=) Unfortunatelly I don't think anything will be able to put the Nibiru scare to rest. I've actually seen one of these articles, the one about Gliese 710, being used as evidence of Nibirus existence (don't ask me how they made that add-up, I have no clue). I've more or less given up on convincing the "true believers" that Nib. don't exist, since no evidence can be considered evidence in their minds.

A fun activity, if you are really bored, is to jump in to any Nib. discussion at ATS for example and try to convince them that Nibiru is nothing more than a figment of one mans drug-induced mind. I've tried several times to supply facts in threads over there, and asked anyone that doubts what I say to prove me wrong. Not a single soul has managed to counter my arguments with anything other than pictures of lens flares or YT-videos of Anunaki (spelling?) and NWO. It's both sad and amusing at the same time…

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Kevin (guest) 16 Jul 2010 19:24

Came through something interesting in the first link. I always thought the magnetic field would still be able to deflect cosmic rays during a reversal.

However…

Moderately dense space clouds are huge, and the solar system could take as long as 500,000 years to cross one of them. Once in such a cloud, the Earth would be expected to undergo at least one magnetic reversal. During a reversal, electrically charged cosmic rays can enter Earth's atmosphere instead of being deflected by the planet's magnetic field.

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RickardM 16 Jul 2010 20:21

I think it's easy to forget, when seing statements such as these, that the magnetosphere is only one of several protections we have against cosmic rays. And even though our magnetosphere might be less effective it would still be there during a magnetic reversal (haven't heard that term before, but I guess it's the same as polar shift?) since these events take anything from hundreds to thousands of years to complete. During that time the magnetosphere will inevitably fade and become less and less effective, but we still wouldn't be defenseless against cosmic rays and such. Finally, I don't think that this event is something that we would have to "deal with", neither denser dust clouds nor pole reversals

If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me=)

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TheGreatJuju 16 Jul 2010 20:31

Moderately dense space clouds are huge, and the solar system could take as long as 500,000 years to cross one of them. Once in such a cloud, the Earth would be expected to undergo at least one magnetic reversal. During a reversal, electrically charged cosmic rays can enter Earth's atmosphere instead of being deflected by the planet's magnetic field.

Earth undergoes such reversals whether it is traversing a dust cloud or not, and such has been the case for billions of years. We're here to talk about it.

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2012hoax 16 Jul 2010 21:02

something doesn't make sense to me in that statement.

1) Cosmic rays already enter earth's atmosphere, especially at higher energies.

2) geomagnetic reversals do not cause the field to drop to zero, and they do not correlate with mutation rates or extinctions, as far as we can tell.

3) The primary modulator of cosmic ray penetration is the atmosphere. There is approximately a 400% increase in ionization at higher altitudes (5300 meters).

I don't think they are discussing the entire concept accurately. Something seems fishy.