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After reading this site and many of the comments, I must say something here. I can debunk most of the stuff you debunk as a hoax.
VERY sensitive info is out there and has been covered up, blurred out. People get a freakin clue and go with your gut instinct.
Google : "Moon Rising"
Wake ther *** up people!!
"The Government lied about what's on the moon!"
Here we go…
Oh, additionally? Jose Escamilla is a major UFO nut and borderline conspiracy theorist.
So I believe this man? Why?
So what is a major UFO nut? Describe that for me please. Are you retarded enough to say ALL of these "UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS" on film are fake?
Borderline conspiracy theorist? You do know the definition of a conspiracy don't you sir? It has been PROVEN time and time again coverups of a huge magnitude have occured and still do everyday.
Penn and Teller? rofl, lmfao seriously? ahahahahhah
Terrence Mckenna would run circles around your little brain. What is your IQ again?
And what was his? rofl get a clue sheep
Terrence McKenna would run circles around my little brain. It helps when you're drugged to nonsense and back. My sanity cannot compare to his insanity.
Penn and Teller are entertaining, nothing more.
Proven? You can prove to me cover ups? Please don't use the words "UFO" to describe it. Please. I beg of you.
Also, for "Moon Rising"? Did you know we've had telescopes with enough power to clearly see the surface of the moon for a very, very long time? I'm going to assume Jose's "hidden proof" has left the moon since then. Yeah. Pretty sure.
As for all of these UFO images? Yeah I think 99%, if not 100%, are fake. Illusions of the camera, falsified and edited images (PS: If the government can fake stuff, so can the public. Bet that flew over your precious little head), and most of all "stupid people assuming stupid things".
Jose's "Roswell Rods", when we've known for decades that Roswell isn't anything special? What a cute name, stupid conspiracy theorist! They're nothing. They're fake. They're easily explained as "Camera moving at high speeds distorts images. Gee gee."
And even then, it could be any magnitude of things. Why are they automatically aliens? Fool. Foolish fool of a conspiracy theorist fool.
So, yeah. Why can't I bust out a high-powered 'scope and look at the 'true moon'? Oh, right. Because only Jose knows about it and it's long gone by now. Yeeeeeeep.
Yeeeeep.
Government took every picture in 1994, every single one, from countries they have no authority over.
Mmmm… makes a lot of sense…
But why do I bother trying to convince you? You're already convinced "The Government is Lying to Us" and "You're all sheep!". Funny how we're sheep when you're the ones who cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt the insanity you claim is truth.
Please don't show me YouTube videos.
Please don't show me blurry pictures.
Please don't show me anything.
Why? Because of the same logic you use:
The Government edits everything and covers it up.
The Public edits everything and spreads it out.
Goodbye, Woo-Woo. You're boring now.
So what is a major UFO nut? Describe that for me please. Are you retarded enough to say ALL of these "UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS" on film are fake?
Of course not. They're just unidentified, by definition. That doesn't leave one with much to go on, unless you take steps to identify said object. Blowing up little blobs and dots to grain or pixel resolution and saying, "Behold!" simply does not suffice.
Borderline conspiracy theorist? You do know the definition of a conspiracy don't you sir? It has been PROVEN time and time again coverups of a huge magnitude have occured and still do everyday.
"Conspiracy theory is a term that originally was a neutral descriptor for any claim of civil, criminal, or political conspiracy. However, it has become largely pejorative and used almost exclusively to refer to any fringe theory which explains an historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by conspirators of almost superhuman power and cunning."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Culture_of_Conspiracy:_Apocalyptic_Visions_in_Contemporary_America
Terrence Mckenna would run circles around your little brain. What is your IQ again?
Terrence McKenna has been dealt with fairly extensively on this site. You're welcome to dispute anything that you find misleading or incorrect.
And what was his? rofl get a clue sheep
Your misplaced hostility is possibly a telling indicator of your confidence. We've seen it here many times — someone really, really, really wants to refute this website, but can't, so he/she just gets angry instead.
After reading this site and many of the comments, I must say something here. I can debunk most of the stuff you debunk as a hoax.
By all means, please do so.
VERY sensitive info is out there and has been covered up, blurred out.
Like what? If it's been "covered up, blurred out," then how did you discover it?
Google : "Moon Rising"
Google: "Jose Escamilla Bad Astronomy" and watch as he is skewered by actual scientists. Heck, I'll take some of the work out of it for ya:
http://www.bautforum.com/archive/index.php/t-86413.html
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theories/99976-jose-escamilla.html
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/101697-Moon-Rising-quot-Fake-quot-UFOs-Debunked-They-are-Craters!
His scientific rigor leaves a bit to be desired, doesn't it?
Wake ther Fuk up people!!
I'm already awake. Maybe you should follow suit before spewing your hostility and pseudoscience at others?
Hey easy on the bring down ppl you peace of work. I love how ppl are all tough on the net but would probably never say this in there face. Listen here sir do us a favor and get lost please and thank you.
This was diredted to Randy Moss
Are you retarded enough to say ALL of these "UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS" on film are fake?
You're an idiot.
ahahahahhah
Reminds me of the angry and emotionally confused 13 year old's whom play World of War on their daddy's account.
Unidentified Flying Object "UFO", by definition is a flying object that is "unidentified" and not "extra-terrestrial".
Allow me to repeat myself. You're an idiot.
A good portion of the UFO videos, which claim to be videos of an Extra-Terrestrial space craft are often hoaxed. Have you seen an alien space-craft balloon? They sell them in Mexico and California, they're really quite convincing from a distance.
However there are some videos and reports that are of objects that the person could not identify, but was later identified as a military aircraft, "Space craft" balloon and even birds. Yes. Birds.
If these morons wanted to submit real evidence of an Extra-Terrestrial space craft, they will have to do better than a bullshit Cellular camera. I want to see evidence with the highest of quality. No grainy picture, limited pixelation and detailed
What is your IQ again?
Much higher than yours, apparently.
rofl get a clue sheep
Here we go with the angry 13 year old speech again.
Not only are you an idiot, Sir, you are an uneducated fool.
Wie Sie säen, so sollst du ernten.
1) No I don't believe Jose Escamilla, especially when he claims that there is a civilization that was on the moon as late as 1994, and that the moon has an atmosphere. You do realize that there is a Japanese satellite taking high-resolution pictures of the moon, right?
2) Regardless of the humor you find in the situation, yes, this site is serious, and no, we don't think your information is credible.
3) This is off topic for a forum dedicated to debunking rumors of a "2012 doomsday", unless you propose that Escamilla's moon aliens are primed to attack then?
4) despite your claim that you can debunk what we debunk (and doesn't that mean that you agree with us?) you have not presented any evidence either way… just your assertion.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Ok, as far as the 2012 stuff goes I will give you that. I do think it is to either instill fear or make a buck off others fears.
But please tell me you dont think the Republicans or Democrats are different for each other, or that 9/11 was anything like the "official story"
I'll give ya the 2012 thing but there is no denying everyday is getting odder than the next. Something is going on.
and fwiw I would say all this to yours or anyones face and more. Not in a mean way at all but just shootin the crap.
Maybe smoke a bowl before hand :-)
Well, I am old and cynical, and I tend not to believe much of what anybody tells me, just because they tell me.
But, I also don't buy into conspiracy theories very easily. They tend to fall apart under examination, and I try to examine all sides of an issue. From that standpoint the 'official' story of 9/11 (terrorists with airplanes) holds together very well, while the alternate explanations (conspiracy by U.S. Government, controlled demolition, etc) do not.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
I'll give ya the 2012 thing but there is no denying everyday is getting odder than the next. Something is going on.
Can you provide an example of every day "getting odder than the [last]?" What do you mean by "odder?" What exactly do you think is "going on?"
I worked for the government before I went into a more academic career and I tell you, if the government does the stuff you conspiracy theorist claims it does I would be shocked, because the sheer incompetency of the average bureaucrat would make that impossible.
Darn! That means that NASA doesn't have Nibiru-like cloaking powers?
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
And that explains why he supports Terrence Mckenna.
As for "everyday is getting odder", is a load of bull. It's only because people are actively looking for "odd" things. It is not so much as things ARE odder, but people are becoming more aware of the world around them.
People who have no idea about the world around them.
As such, these people assume everything is odd. The world is always changing, this is not a lie, but people are growing more aware of the world itself because of stuff like 2012, and the growing influence of News and The Internet. Awareness from the ignorant leads to ignorance.
As for your 9/11 claim? Please. Please don't. Just. Don't. People died that day, that is all that matters. Was it due to terrorists? They liked to take the claim for it. The claim and the blame. Even if they didn't do it, they said they did it, and went out of their way to go out and kill people after the fact.
Maybe it was a plot by George W. Bush to let himself get into a war to be a "Hero". Maybe it was. The fact is? The enemy made themselves the enemy. You can't deny this, regardless of your conspiracy theories.
Sir, I apologize, but your hero Jose Esmacilla is a proven fraud. Your hero Terrence Mckenna was a major druggie (Which you support, obviously), and his "Novelty Theory" has been torn apart for load it was.
Kindly take your conspiracy theories to a website designated for it. We're saving shattered lives in the meantime.
Hello Randy,
I agree with what everyone here has said, with the notable exception of you. Our site has one purpose, to help those who are being taken in by the 2012 doomsday hoax. We have neither the time nor the inclination to debunk every conspiracy theory out there.
As for IQ, mine is 163. I can't speak for the rest of our group and I have no idea what McKenna's was, nor do I care.
Smoke a bowl? No thanks. I prefer to keep my faculties in good working order.
There are probably some UFO debunking sites where you can go to argue your conspiracy theories. This isn't one of them.
Lol 163 ok…..
Anyways, aside from most of guys never gettin laid I will just say this.
I will bookmark your gay site and maybe even read it from time to time, but when the sh*t hits the fan, expect me to rag your as$.
Good day geeks!! Go outside and socialize from time to time. You might actually meet a cool chick that could opepn your mind.
I doubt it though…
P.S. I like my videogames too… Espescially MMO's /sshhh
So when December 21st 2012 comes and passes with nothing happening Randy then what will you say.
Well, wait..he's going to rag your as$..when the sh*t hits the fan..
How can he possibly succeed in doing that..we'll all be dead…??? Hmmmm…
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
And, of course, Randy, it is the people like you who make me wonder if the Human race is truly worth saving, if there were to come a time when we could prevent our own demise.
If we saved our species, only to have morons such as yourself waste our precious resources, again.. We aren't worth the trouble.
Luckily, I have hope for newer generations, in which some day, they may do better than we could have ever dreamed of, one day, we will be dead and another generation will step up.
Hopefully the next generation will right our wrongs.
As for going outside..
If you were to go outside, you would know that nothing, in our world, has changed.
We have news coverage and camera's and every little thing that we think is strange or, odd, we instantly label it as a sign of a doomsday, a conspiracy or, some other bullshit that idiots like you shoot out of your asses.
Perhaps you should stop "smoking a bowl", it's clearly effecting your intelligence and your perception.
Wie Sie säen, so sollst du ernten.
Anyone have an astronomical "Do not feed the troll" sign to hang around here?
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
So wait, if I go out and meet a nice girl, I'll become a conspiracy theorists and believe in this 2012 nonsense?
Oh well. Can anyone figure out what this guy's purpose was? Just going to chalk it up as trolling?
I wonder what kind of person it takes to come here and do something like that. We're just trying to help people… but eh. I guess he's just one of 'those' people who are so absorbed in 2012 being 'truth' that they can't accept being wrong.
Or all those 'bowls' killed his mind.
Holy , I just remembered that actually IS how I got pulled into this 2012 nonsense! I mean, that IS how it happened!
Women are the source of this 2012 hysteria!
I'm lookin' at you two, now, Nurse and Alene. Even if you potentially aren't females do to Rule of Interwebz!
Hey, come on. How are women the source of it (with the exception of Nancy Lieder of course)? I think most of our ranting trolls here have been males, but as you said, one can't always tell.
I wonder if meeting a nice guy works the same way. If it's going to turn me into a conspiracy nut though, I'll pass.
You're right, though. I think all of our attacks from conspiracy theorists have been males.
How are we attracting them? I guess they don't like what we do. When people are sane and thinking rationally, they aren't buying into "ZOMG THE GOVERNMENT LIES AND WANTS TO CONTROL US ALL, MAAAAAAN!"
I can imagine them all as hippies. It's fun.
What are you saying Alene I'm Male and i've never attacked the site i think you guys are doing a great service in debunking this 2012 BS and i don't think it's possible that this could be a Goverment Cover Up because i don't think the Goverments of certain countries will ever forgive our goverment for the bombings cough cough Japan, Iraq, Iran, numerous other places.
I'm not saying that all males attack the site, just that most of our ranters have been male.
Actually, I was just being silly in response to the idea that women are the source of the 2012 hysteria, which I'm sure was also said in jest.
I think the tinfoil hat wearers just need someone to rant at and we are a handy target. There aren't many sites specifically dedicated to debunking the 2012 hysteria.
Jest indeed.
PS: You'd be surprised how happy the other governments are the world are that the U.S. isn't bombing them :o
Has any of you read the short story "Thinking as a hobby" by William Golding (forgot exactly what his full name was) I think most of the woowoos how start ranting here are 80% first grade thinkers while others are second grade. I think this short story sums it pretty well. As to the contributors to this site (astroboy, alene, biken, elliot, juju and forgive me if i cant think of your name right now) are third grades :D
Sorry Kevin, if that wasn't meant to be an insult, but I guess that line of thinking means you are in day care.
I think it was actually meant as a compliment, but I do believe that Kevin has his grades reversed.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Ah, I see. Well Kevin, although I included a preliminary apology in case I was wrong, I will now assume you just had your grades of thinking reversed and apologize again.
You know, I would totally change my handle to astroboy, except that there is already one on wikidot.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Yeah well no problem. damn it that's embarassing getting the grades wrong :(
The only rule of the internet that actually pulls through, for most of the time, is Rule #34 and even that rule lacks from time to time.
Also, Alene, I wear tinfoil hats. Not because I think that they will save me from aliens, but because they're shiny and they distract idiots who do believe in such things as I walk down the street.
It's funny to walk down the street while wearing something shiny, people stare, walk into poles and doors. It's better than the Three Stooges.
Wie Sie säen, so sollst du ernten.
Maybe I should try that. Guys used to run into pillars and doors staring at me, but no one has done that lately. I guess tinfoil hats may be good for something after all.
