Southern CAlifornia Overdue For Massive Quake
Laura (guest) 22 Aug 2010 05:33
Just wondering what everyone's opinions are!! Is the guy doing the survey credible and is he associated with the USGS?
Southern CAlifornia Overdue For Massive Quake
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What do you think about this article?
Laura (guest) 22 Aug 2010 05:33
I don't really have an opinion. Being on the eastern rim of the Ring of Fire, California is always at risk for a "big one."
The issue with saying that any place is overdue for any kind of disaster caused by an earthquake is that it can be said about, well, literally anywhere. An earthquake, with all due respect to the people who try to forecast these things, is kind of like a ninja and that's really the only reason that they're as deadly as they are, they're difficult to predict and they often throw curve-balls and this makes it extremely difficult for warning systems, but the other issue is that an earthquake can hit without warning.
Considering where California currently is, the earthquake that they're talking about could happen at any time, it could happen tomorrow, a year from now, several years from now.. You get the point.
Nature isn't getting worse, there are just more people in its way.
Wie Sie säen, so sollst du ernten.
Hi Laura;
I'm going to chime in here. If there is one thing that I have learned over the last 18 months of fighting the 2012 nonsense, it is that you cannot trust the news media to get it right. Invariably they will mess it up somehow, whether by interviewing a single scientist with a minority opinion, or by pushing the 'sexy' stuff (i.e., what sells) and leaving out some of the boring details, or by simply oversimplifying an issue.
The core question of the article appears to be: are we more overdue for a "big one" than we thought. The article provides the opinion of one study conducted in a joint program at two universities. That being said, you never, ever, base scientific opinion on a single study, and certainly not on the news media's interpretation of that single study.
My second point is that this is not new news. The subject of being 'overdue' has its own serious problems, in that a faultline isn't an alarm clock. The area in question is known to be a dangerous fault, because a large segment of it is "locked" and presumably building up strain. However, we have known that for decades.
I have relatives who live near there (One in Simi Valley, one in Escondido). Both of them know about earthquakes (one was actually in the Northridge quake) and both of them choose to live there, and both of them know the value of preparedness.
My opinion of the article: It's a piece of fluff filler. There is nothing new or novel in the article, and they failed to reference the study so that we could read it and juge for ourselves. They did not present the information in a balanced fashion, as the final line, a quote from a USGS scientist, indicates:
The study is ""rather controversial. Some people support the work, and some people think there may be problems with it," she told Fox News.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Read the stuff you link, PLEASE. If you did, you'd even see that the article itself even states that it's a split, if not in favor of "Lol no", debate on if this is remotely a fact.
I have to admit, I'm growing tired of people posting every possible little thing as a link to 2012. You're not helping yourselves by aiming to scare yourselves.
Why are you all becoming more aware of natural disasters as the clock ticks closer to 2012? Where was all this mass paranoia decades ago?
Stop.
Trying.
To.
Convince.
Yourselves.
Of.
2012.
I have to admit, I'm growing tired of people posting every possible little thing as a link to 2012. You're not helping yourselves by aiming to scare yourselves.
Alright, I might as well set myself up for a massive bashing by the new bad**s in here but I feel so inclined to ask you the following; you do realize that this is a forum devoted to helping people scared by everything surrounding 2012, yes? Your attitude isn't going to help anyone, and if you are so tired of hearing about this then perhaps you'd feel more at ease somewhere else? Just a thought=)
Facts are stubborn things.
- Ronald Reagan
Ya know, I didn't post that link to get smart comments. I posted it just to get other people's opinions. Yes, I am afraid of the 2012 doomsday, I usually come here for comfort. I guess the best thing for me to do is stop asking questions, so that I don't bother you, Moo.
I take a more stern approach when it comes to people attempting to link 2012 with natural disasters. They've been happening for millions upon millions of years.
The major thing you need to make yourself aware of is this, Laura: Sol Cal has had it's massive wtf quake in the past. Why would it happening around this day and age be any different?
Granted, yes, there's more people living there, but technology and building structure has increased significantly since then.
You have to stop trying to scare yourself. That's the first step to recovery and stepping over 2012. Again, let me ask you this: Did you keep track of natural disasters in the years before you became afraid of 2012?
If the answer is yes, why are you afraid of 2012?
If the answer is no, go back and see just how much stuff mother nature throws at us on a yearly basis
Don't feel that I'm picking on you or trying to make you feel bad. I'm giving you the shove you need to get through the worst part of 2012 fear, trying to compare everything going on in the universe to this one, insignificant date.
There's really nothing else we can tell you besides, as Juju pointed out, California is kissing the Ring of Fire. Big Quakes Gonna Happen. REAL Big Quake Could Happen.
But, it is LARGELY debated, as I mentioned before, about this "The Big One" California will be hit by. The evidence suggesting it is weak.
I did a little research on how much damage could happen to California if it happened. The answer is: it won't be anything worthy of comparing it to anything remotely doomsday.
Just relax, Laura. Sol Cal eats quakes all the time. And, honestly, this is one thing you just can't let yourself compare to 2012. Sol Cal has, as the studies have suggested, nomed big quakes during a really erratic pattern. This isn't new.
Just stop scaring yourself. Natural disasters are not increasing in some way that isn't the strength of more sensitive ones due to global warming.
Nibiru is a freaking joke and if it was around, we'd all be dead. Right now. We'd be dead. Dead serious, dead! This thing doesn't exist.
Biblical Doomsday is a fraud and a joke. The real good book says nothing of this noise.
Any ancient-race doomsday (which don't exist) are a fraud. Because they don't exist.
What's that leave? Natural disasters we can't do anything about? They haven't caused a mass extinction yet, they won't start now.
The Sun killing us all? No… not unless it does something we've never seen before. This is the only real likely one.
Asteroid/Meteor/Etc? No sorry not in our lifetimes unless something REAL stupid happens, aka something with a current 1:250,000 chance of happening and decreasing in odds of striking us with every year. PS this isn't for another, oh, 26 years.
Did I miss anything? I hope not.
Do not be afraid. There is no evidence supporting 2012. All that's happening that makes it SEEM likely is people becoming more AWARE of the world. All the scary junk no one cared about is now being eaten up by the news because Fear Sells.
Fear and Sex.
I swear, if the earth suddenly opened up a massive sinkhole and a giant pillar fell into it, it'd be the biggest reported event EVER.
I swear, if the earth suddenly opened up a massive sinkhole and a giant pillar fell into it, it'd be the biggest reported event EVER.
dont jynx it moo!
Laura, I don't think Moo realizes how long you've been here. I can't speak for everyone, but your questions don't bother me, so I hope one response won't discourage you from posting.
My apologies for offending if I did. As I said, I take the stern and shove approach, with some sarcasm and stupidity mixed in.
It generally works!
As for you, Kevin… if you didn't see the innuendo >.>
Hi Laura,
Don't think we don't want you to come here and ask about your concerns about 2012. You keep coming back for as long as you like, or need to.
I do think you should stop looking for things to scare yourself with, though. As I've said before, you have a far greater chance of dying from natural causes or an auto accident than from any of the nonexistent 2012 "events."
I agree with Alene here. Laura stop worrying yourself about events that more than likely won't happen despite what all the various retards on the internet think not that i have anything against retards or special needs people but that's not relievent here. Just don't worry about Earthquakes and all of this stuff that these people say there just read this site and try to avoid all the terrible sites out there about 2012.
I understand Laura. I myself am petrified of Patrick Geryl's stuff. Everything credible tells me that this guy is a fruitcake, but it still scares me due to the fact that even though his predictions have a silly scientific basis, they're terrifying predictions. As a person without much scientific schooling, articles that may have very slim science in them can be scary simply due to the fact I have no idea what the heck it means.
I completely get where you're coming from.
Hi Jason,
I can understand how frightening the 2012 garbage can be for those who haven't taken enough science yet to see that their silly scenarios are impossible. In fact, before college, I might have even believed some of them. The doomsayers are just playing on the fears of those who haven't learned yet how silly it all is. None of the doomsayers are scientists. They just throw some scientific terms together into a meaningless jumble trying to make it sound credible, and then sit back and let the money roll in.
As for predicting the timing of earthquakes, if the USGS can't do it, why would the scientifically challenged authors be able to? There are earthquakes in California all the time, but no one can accurately predict either the timing or the magnitude.
Earthquakes in Cali happen all the time, and big ones do happen once in a while. The best you can do is to prepare for it, because it will happen 2012 or not. As for that article, i don't see the point of it if you already are familiar with California and its earthquake history. Just be prepared! If you don't want to experience it, then move inland! But then you will get tornados :( It's earth!!!
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