David Suzuki
Mike Poulin (guest) 30 Aug 2010 22:43
So i happened to be looking at some old posts and came across the name David Suzuki who is he and did he have some prediction for 2012.
David Suzuki
Forum
» General Discussion / Comments
» David Suzuki
Mike Poulin (guest) 30 Aug 2010 22:43
First off, cite what you're worried about.
Second, there's a difference between predictions for events in 2012, and then there's 2012 predictions.
The first is more along the lines of me saying something will happen in 2011 due to some research.
The second is the stuff we have handled to the left.
I was not aware David Suzuki was a 2012 person. I do know he's a pretty active global warming guy, though. Someone else can shed more light on this, I imagine.
David Suzuki is a Canadian scientist (a zoologist) and an advocate for environmental issues. As far as I know he has never said anything about 2012. I wonder if perhaps people confuse his advocacy of conservation, and his warnings about the danger of global warming with 2012. I also wonder if people aren't confusing him with Michio Kaku.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
I uh, did a google search involving David Suzuki + 2012 and came up with very little. Doesn't seem like he has much to say about it at all. It's possible he might have said something about some global warming potential threats that could happen in 2012 but I really would have to dig more into the context of 2012 and Google Searches and ugh my head.
I mean, I even hit up David Suzuki's myspace or facebook page or whatever that noise is and the only 2012 thing listed there is some guy's big ol' warning about CHANGE HOW WE DO THINGS OR BY 2012 METHANE WILL KILL US ALL video which… probably has nothing to do with David Suzuki's views.
So… 'cha. Can you cite something? Otherwise pretty sure wires are being crossed.
Oh right, and before I scare some poor people to death about Global Warming and Methane, keep in mind if anything is highly overblown, it's Arctic Methane Release.
Not to say Global Warming ain't a threat, and it is a factor that needs to be dealt with Sooner Than Later, but with every threat comes an overblown element to it.
Gawd I swear the 2012 woo-woos are just trying to distract people from Global Warming.
Hey Moo i was just curious as to who he was as i was reading some old threads and somebody mentioned David Suzuki and i've never heard him mentioned in this 2012 thing. Also i do kind of believe in Global Warming but i don't believe at all in 2012.
People will try to connect anything they can to 2012. Anything at all. It's possible David Suzuki said at some point the numbers "2012" with something entirely innocent involving global climate change movements or actions or effects or BLAH BLAH BLAH and someone went…
"OH MAH GAWD GLOBAL WARMING 2012 WE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I swear the Olympics will be viewed as The End Times in 2012. Wait, are they in 2012?
Alright now i have the question of who is Michael Kaku.
Michio Kaku is a pretty well known individual in terms of his legitimate contributions to the scientific community. However, he has a major flaw that other scientists (David Morrison being one of them) point out.
He tends to blow things waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of the scope of realism.
Additionally, Michio Kaku is a total TV Baby. He seems to just love having his face on the screen, and I'm beginning to question if he doesn't tweak his words to make him more likely to end up on, oh, Fox Noise. (Fox News)
Michio Kaku is a legitimate man, but he tends to grind the gears of other scientists in his field due to the nature of how he states things, and how eager he seems to jump on the chance to get on television with ground-breaking news. Like that Solar Flare nonsense.
That's an amazing interview, by the way. Fox News hypes it up, Michio Kaku hypes it up, but in between his own words you can tell he's like "Well probably not a big deal BUT HEY THIS IS WHAT COULD HAPPEN I'M ON TV :DDD".
TL;DR Version - Michio Kaku = Legit but sort of a wanker.
Hey Moo, I completely agree with you on Michio Kaku. Have to admit that his Sci-Fi Science show is pretty cool to watch, but I too, think he tends to hype-up things that he talks about. I remember seeing a video clip on Youtube several weeks ago from when he was discussing the oil spill with someone at Fox News and he blew up a possible worst-case scenario and made it seem like a very probable scenario; concerning an underground blowout and a methane bubble/mega-tsunami, yadda yadda. A LSU marine geologist ended up publishing a debunk to his interview because he scared the sh*t out of a huge number of people down here!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
Michio Kaku is a theoretical physicist. He is involved in research on string theory, but his relevance to 2012 is in a couple of interviews that he did back in 2005 and 2006.
In one he stated that the next solar cycle would be larger than normal. He cited a study from NCAR, but then misquoted it, saying that the cycle would be "23 times normal" (which is not what the paper said). In another appearance he gave an interpretation of the solar cycle that was completely at odds with observation, specifically that the sun's polarity switches instantly during solar max, and that this causes the sun to send out a 'blast of radiation' which would cripple all of the satellites. When asked why this didn't happen before he responded that we didn't have as many satellites before.
David Morrison has said in some of his public lectures that this view is "offensive to astronomers", which is true. That's not how the solar max plays out: The sun doesn't swap its polarity instantaneously, and there is no 'blast of radiation' associated with it. The fact of the matter is that we can't actually tell when the solar max was until we see activity trending downward for a few weeks.
Ian O'Neill was more charitable, saying simply that Kaku was incorrect.
So: 2006 (four years ago) Kaku got on TV and said something that was wrong.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
I totally don't blame these guys, as they have to make a living, too. Add to the list that Aussie fellow that claimed the "nativity star" proves that Christ was born in June. He was also quoted as saying that nasties will happen in 2012 and that it will take years for us to get back to normal. He, Dave Reneke, has a big website which makes a lot of $ off ads and subscriptions, and his science geek act (you know, the original geeks? rolling around and biting the heads off snakes?) does make him look an awful lot like the 12-tards selling bomb shelter plans.
So another person who feels that the Bible prophicised something 2012 and believes that Jesus will come back in 2012.
FALSE PROPHET Anyone. Jesus is not coming back in 2012,
/forum/t-261827/david-suzuki#post-