Barbara Hand-Clow

Barbara Hand-Clow

SpaceMike 14 Oct 2010 17:54

And one thing talked about is the end of the mayan calendar 2011-2012 approaches earth like a strange attractor in the sky and it heralds the completion of the nine underworlds and also the alignment of our solar system will be in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy and also claims to be in contact from "Pleadians" as she calls them.

And I'm thinking to my self what the heck because she also apparantly is trying to sell books aswell about 2012 and something about nine dimentions like I mentioned above and to me it sounds crazy like she is another fake or type of Nancy Lieder person.

this is the site where she posts all that

she has a website called
http://www.handclow2012.com/

Re: Barbara Hand-Clow

TheGreatJuju 14 Oct 2010 18:44

to me it sounds crazy like she is another fake or type of Nancy Lieder person.

I get the same impression.

---

"They tell you, but do you believe it? If so, why?"

http://www.undeadrufus.com

Moo (guest) 14 Oct 2010 18:48

Lol Spiritualism/Transformation!

Uh, let's just rip this apart regardless of those two words, ahem. "Alignment of our solar system" stop right there. This is an impossible scenario. Physics denies it flat out, good game.

What the hell is a Pleadian? Ugh. UGH.

UGH.

UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

She's freaking Nancy Lieder with a stupid name change. WOOOOOOOOO SPIRITUALISM!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The women is a nut.

Moo (guest) 14 Oct 2010 18:49

Note: She is not literally Nancy Liedar.

Keith (guest) 28 Oct 2010 22:24

Pleidians are products of the imagination of Swiss farmer Eduard "Billy" Meier. He claimed that these beings came from the Pleiades star cluster, in itself an impossible notion because its stars only around 100 million years old, which is not near enough time for advanced intelligent life to develop.

Meier reported contact with blond-hair human-like beings, the chief representative of which was a woman called Semjase. Meier also photographed and filmed what he claimed were the Pleidian ships flying in Swiss airspace. His photos and movies have been analyzed and found to have been faked, and his description of Semjase allegedly resembled a Swiss fashion model.

Re: Barbara Hand-Clow

(account deleted) 14 Oct 2010 19:00

I second TheGreatJuju. For one thing, you can check here to see what's wrong with her ideas about the solar system aligning with the center of the Galaxy. For another, she obviously has no idea what an "attractor" is, much less a "strange attractor". It seems to me that she's strung together esoteric terms from pseudoastronomy and nonlinear dynamics to make an impressive-sounding gibberish.

---

"I was glad to be able to answer him promptly and with confidence. Without hesitation, I told him I didn't know." Mark Twain

snorks (guest) 15 Oct 2010 17:11

Actually I do know about this person. Story has it that years (80's) ago, her son committed suicide. He had read some sort of Mayan 2012 end of world book, which was in his possession when he died. She is part owner of Inner Traditions / Bear Company (an Occult, New Age, alternative publisher). She has been hawking space dudes coming to earth and being our ancestors or whatever and all of that since the 90s. Jenkins also talks about her in his latest book -2012. Apparently, her son's death either unhinged her or she wanted it to mean something. So for some peculiar reason, she latched on to the space dudes. Maybe it was in her son's book or something.
(Please excuse the language - brain injury interfers with syntax etc.)

Re: Barbara Hand-Clow

SpaceMike 17 Oct 2010 22:21

I was wondering if you could add this topic to the list of proponents in the topic navigation?

snorks (guest) 18 Oct 2010 11:29

I agree. She has been discussing Mayan and 2012 for at least ten years.

Re: Barbara Hand-Clow

Astrogeek 18 Oct 2010 16:04

If I create a page for you, can you get started on fleshing it out? We can create the page and leave it unlinked for the moment, you can write in what you have found, and then one of the more experienced editors can come in and format it.

---

"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind

snorks (guest) 18 Oct 2010 17:49

Do I send the info to you directly or post it here?

Astrogeek 18 Oct 2010 20:54

I'll create a page and announce it here. Then you can either join wikidot and the site and edit the page, or you can simply add your content as a comment, and one of us will transfer it to the page.

---

"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind

Astrogeek 18 Oct 2010 21:16

http://www.2012hoax.org/barbara-hand-clow

---

"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind

snorks (guest) 21 Oct 2010 15:38

O.K. Am working on gathering info for citing purposes. Will probably be a week before am all finished. Most of what I have - lies in her books such as her son's suicide.