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Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 10:41

Since someone put a thread on the illuminati ive researched it and i have found that some people say they are making the 2012 stuff up to distract us from their new world order or ww3 anyone got any information on this. I feel that this can be 2012 linked so not going off topic :)

Moo (guest) 19 Oct 2010 11:11

So every 2012ist is Illuminati, huh?

See, the problem with this theory is that the intelligent people the Illuminati should fear aren't distracted or bothered by it. Ultimately, I do expect to see this theory more now, that 2012 was an Illuminati Plot.

Why? 2012 just got massively debunked, period. Gerardo Aldana killed it.

Regardless, the Illuminati as portrayed in conspiracy theories is a bunch of bull. While there might be 'elite', they are a minority of the powers of the world. The conspiracy theorists use the Illuminati card because of the real, non-important group from decades ago, and the Illuminati in fiction.

To sum it up, to believe in the Illuminati as the true global force is a lot like believing in Vampires. Just because it's so popular doesn't make it real.

Regardless, with 2012 nipped in the butt, except more conspiracy theories floating around for a while until 2038, when the Computer Crash scenario will happen. of course that's already been solved, but eh… people don't care about logic.

Ugh. Stupid Illuminati. Stupid Bible. Both are direct causes as to why we'll never get a Global Government. Stupid conspiracy theories. Sadly, there is no World Order, because the nations of the world have too much pride to come as one. As for World War III… ugh. The fact it could be linked as an Illuminati plot annoys me.

It's stupid because a scenario like World War III would destroy much of the world the Illuminati want to take over. Blah blah blah this isn't worth talking about much more.

Final thoughts: Put any of these conspiracy theorists in a government seat of power. See how long until they snap from the pressure, and that they've been wrong. Doop Doop Doop. Sadly, all Governments do lie to their people, but it's nothing on the scale of, say, WWIII or NWO.

Honestly, this is a huge stretch for a 2012 related topic. Look me in the eyes (manner of speaking) and tell me the Illuminati are able to create a New World Order. This means, and consider this VERY carefully, North Korea and South Korea becoming best friends, China loving everyone, Russia loving everyone, Iran and Iraq being buddy buddy, and the list goes on.

Convince me ANYONE is able to do is. People BARELY manage to keep these opposing factions from killing each other of. Convince me the "Illuminati" can make them WORK AS ONE.

Convince. Me.

And this is where the Illuminati and the New World Order falls apart.

If you wish to discuss conspiracy theories… don't. It's stupid.

Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 11:25

i understand what you say and im not saying you belive it but people have also said that these underground bunkers being made are to prtect the ilumonati and destroy everyone else creating a new world were there would not be korea in civil wars and in disruputes but the world being remade into a new one

Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 11:25

i mean not saying i believe it soz

Moo (guest) 19 Oct 2010 12:08

There's always two sides the coin.

1) The Illuminati are building them.

2) The respective countries are building them.

Whichever side you believe in, eh. Still, underground bunkers are not a bad idea. They're smart, in case someone insane gets some nukes and decides to go off on people. The problem is, this is a smart precaution for a variety of events. I hate that it is automatically assumed to be a conspiracy theory, and not simply "Intelligent".

Do you know why it isn't?

Because people are idiots.

Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 13:11

Also people have said that many singers put words about trying to stop the illuminati and also if you type in youtube micheal jackson illminati he says we only have four years

Moo (guest) 19 Oct 2010 13:18

"i mean not saying i believe it soz"

Indeed. For someone who doesn't believe in it, you're reading way too much into it. First lesson of Conspiracy Theories: Stop looking into them.

Okay, let's just… take this apart for a moment.

1) Illuminati Belief isn't rare, granted it is the minority. Some singers believing it it does not make it true. They are no more important than you and I. They are simply over-payed for their work.

2) Song lyrics can be taken to heart by the listener. The message from the singer can be ignored or manipulated at a whimsy. Some may be having Illuminati-conspiracy lyrics. Others may just be subject to the whims of the conspiracy theorists.

3) Sigh. That one lyric in one of MJ's songs, huh? Look, Michael Jackson may have been a genius in the art of song, but he was pretty unstable in his final years before his death. He was no genius outside of his gift of song. That's also less of an ILLUMINATI!!! thing and more of a possibility he believed in 2012.

Let's put this into numbers. If 1 out of every 10 singers believes in the Illuminati, then that means 10% of all singers believe in them.

10 out of 100

100 out of 1000

1000 out of 10,000

10,000 out of 100,000

100,000 out of 1,000,000

1,000,000 out of 10,000,000

I bet my math sucks, but you get the idea. It's the vast minority, and I even bet it's far less than that anyway.

Also, some singers purposely do it for the sake of selling. While fans who don't believe in the Illuminati might not even notice the lyrics, or even care? People who weren't previous fans will jump on it and support the artist for KNOWING THE TRUTH!

This is EXACTLY like 2012. Jump on the bandwagon, make money. Cha-ching.

Anyway, you don't believe in this bull, so that's all that needs to be said. Illuminati are not taking over the world, the Anti-Christ will never exist, NWO would not be a bad thing. Etc. Etc. Etc. And even if the Anti-Christ did return, I'm going to be brutal here with my choice of words:

If 'we' killed Jesus, we can kill his evil doppleganger thing. Only this time we have guns, not nails.

Thanks for playing in Conspiracy Theory Corner!

Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 13:38

i am starting to get a bit scared of this now if you look up fema camps they talk about death camps and if you look up there plans about killing off 90% of the worlds population. Honestly, really starting to get scared, because there is a lot of evidence for these things :'(

Astrogeek 19 Oct 2010 14:38

There are no "FEMA Camps".

The photos purported to be "FEMA Camps" are (in one case) a prison camp… in North Korea, and in another case a storage yard.

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"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind

Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 15:29

LOL feel stupid now about the FEMA camps but this project blue beam ive seen it but i dont fully understand what it is and why does the symbol of the illuminati appear on the american dollar bill

3WMElliott 19 Oct 2010 15:57

The Eye of Providence has been used by bucket loads of people, cultures, and so on, and is not actually an 'Illuminati' symbol. The Freemasons have used it, with the historical Bavarian Illuminati being an offshoot group of the Freemasons, or modeled on the Freemason's, something along those lines.

The point is, it's a symbol. It's not a hidden code. It's not a clue to the grand conspiracy. It's a detailed, hard to copy piece of artwork designed to deter forgers from bothering to make forged cash.

Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 16:16

Also can i ask why micheal said that people that were viscous and mean wanted to kill him. Could that link to the illuminati

3WMElliott 19 Oct 2010 16:55

Of course that could link to the Illuminati, in the same way all plastic knives are designed to not cut food effectively, forcing you to buy proper knives to eat with, which generate massive revenues for the Illuminati Cutlery Department, or that Michael Vick put himself in the middle of a Redskin Sandwich and injured his ribs on purpose, such that Illuminati-sponsored Kevin Kolb could get more time in the spotlight.

All of these scenarios are equally valid in that "No, it could not link to a conspiracy theory for which there is no evidence and an awful lot of warped logic", among other reasons I'm sure.

Alex (guest) 19 Oct 2010 18:59

Also can anyone explain why the singers that sang about the iluminati died like 2 pac and such (were they assasinated)

3WMElliott 19 Oct 2010 19:41

When someone with a gun really, really hates another person…

Seriously Alex, stop and look at what you're asking for a minute.

RAWROVER9000!!!!! (guest) 19 Oct 2010 19:07

did you get the idea from my post..in the off-topic section?

Listen to Moo…he is always right XD

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