Check out this article that i found in the links from FAMSI

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Tell me if it supports or doesn't support the 2012 hoax

Check out this article that i found in the links from FAMSI

Mike Poulin (guest) 21 Oct 2010 02:44

www.worldend.org/doomsday2012/pg1 link could be wrong and if it is correct it and please read the thing.

Moo (guest) 21 Oct 2010 07:02

http://www.worldend.org/2012/doomsday/pg1.html Proper link.

As much as I could stomach to read, Mike, what exactly helps prove 2012 isn't a hoax? Or did you mean that 2012 IS a hoax? You need to be a bit more clear, but I'll tackle both.

To support that 2012 isn't a hoax… nothing. It doesn't give a name of this 'wise little old man', so the entire thing could easily be someone's BS. Additionally, it cites a lot of books from people who really aren't qualified to claim they know anything about the Maya.

To support that 2012 is a hoax… uh… the entire thing is pretty stupid, really. At the last paragraph, it does say that… ugh. It's just dumb. Apparently the little old man wasn't seeing the end of the world, but the end of his life in 1998 or something.

This… means the entire story is Entirely Pointless. Either way, it's a woo site that doesn't give any information on this 'prophet', and supports the people with no proper training involving the Ancient Maya.

Now then, Mike? Allow me to attack you for a second! Why are you constantly digging into all of this? You should have substantially assurance that this is all bogus. If you keep typing '2012 Doomsday' into Google, you're going to keep finding websites that apparently 'prove 2012 is real'. Which you will find, even if they're full of it, because these websites outnumber ones like this.

Why are you STILL doing this to yourself?

Now, tell me, did you mean the website debunks, or supports, 2012?

Moo (guest) 21 Oct 2010 07:09

I read through it again, and I have to admit, it's a bit more interesting if you take it apart. The 'wise old man', whom I believe is a work of fiction to prove a point, is taking a piece from the three major sources of 2012 shenanigans.

1) End of the World

2) New Age

3) You're both wrong, it's happening sooner.

The end result? Threw them all together, and made them ALL wrong.

The thing is, the website has an annoying layout, with it's 'doomsday' clock. It makes it hard to tell if it's making a joke out of the situation, or if it thinks it will happen. I'm sort of leaning on that it's making a joke, and people who are intelligent enough to actually read the article will understand where the website stands.

Regardless if I'm right or wrong, it's still stupid. It could have had a simple layout like this website, but no. I guess the website owner decided that "WELL if it's real or not, I'm safe this way from being laughed at :D!"

Regardless, it's stupid. It wasn't worth the read. If someone else wants to read it over, let me know what you think.

Mike Poulin (guest) 21 Oct 2010 12:35

So the doomsday clock should've been a tip off that it was a woo site.

Mike Poulin (guest) 21 Oct 2010 12:37

Moo i was just posting the link to see what people thoguht it's interesting that FAMSI would have a woo site linked to it.

Mike Poulin (guest) 21 Oct 2010 20:35

Moo
Actually i asked a question in another thread as to who Sandra Noble was and i got linked to FAMSI and then i found that site through their links not through Google i haven't googled anything on 2012 since i found this site.

Moo (guest) 21 Oct 2010 12:46

I think the point of the website is to show what people are doing. The clock is a little odd, but keep in mind the quotation marks around 'End of the World'. As if mocking it.

Also, note this at the end of the story.

"The moral of our story: Every day is the beginning of the end; every day is the start of a new world. Be thoughtful of what you hear and predict; lest, it may become your truth."

What it's telling you is that, every day is a beginning of a new world, and every day has an ending, an end of that world. This… is sort of 'deep' thinking, and I personally wouldn't word it as such.

Ultimately, I think the layout of the website could use a smack to the face, but I think the point of the timer is to be laughed at when it's in the negatives. I think I'll leave this to someone with a bit more 'depth' to them, however.

All I can think is that the 'little old man' did not exist? I don't know.

Moo (guest) 21 Oct 2010 12:55

… I think I get it now. I think what it's telling you is that, if you truly believe in 2012, your life could very well BE over by then. You could throw your life away, only to find out when December 22nd rolls around… everything is still there. Nothing has changed. And yet… you are broken. Nothing.

Some people may even take their lives before then. Or on that day. Either way, 2012 would have been the end of their world. Just like 1998 was the end of the little old man's world. He was so convinced, that his body did indeed react. His shock, his awe, his fascination… it was too much for his heart. And he died, a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The story is very well against 2012. It is telling people to not be misguided by the woo and the nonsense. The story even attacks what it cites, but the message itself can be somewhat cryptic if you're not open-minded to it.

Ultimately, it's something that Neil deGrasse Tyson might say. You should educate yourself, not be educated.

Mike Poulin (guest) 21 Oct 2010 19:13

Wait what was supposed to happen in 1998 i don't remember anything happening in 1998 other then the Bill Clinton scandle lol.

Moo (guest) 21 Oct 2010 22:34

Nothing was supposed to happen. That's the point. Mike, I really can't explain the purpose of the story to you. The entire point of it is to educate yourself, and look beyond what someone puts in your face. If you can't do that, then let me simply say this: The site is strongly against 2012 fanaticism.