There are NO victims!

There are NO victims!

Tony (guest) 25 Oct 2010 20:24

I enjoyed the site.

I believe that we are all deliberate creators and that there are no victims.

So, if someone falls for the 2012 crap, then I consider it natural selection in progress!

There will always be a certain number of folks who fall for stupid stuff and will not heed the warnings that it is garbage.

They will croak, return to pure positive energy, and have a good laugh.

Tony

Re: There are NO victims!

Alene Y 25 Oct 2010 20:33

I wonder if you would feel the same way if your child or your little brother or sister fell for the 2012 nonsense and committed suicide.

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TheGreatJuju 25 Oct 2010 20:38

You can believe whatever you want, but I certainly don't share you belief. Some people are content to wallow in delusion, while others might lack critical thinking skills but genuinely want help in dealing with 2012-related claims. I consider it foolishly dismissive, not to mention callous, to wave them off as "natural selection in progress."

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Re: There are NO victims!

Astrogeek 26 Oct 2010 00:18

Tony;

If I understand you correctly, you feel that if someone falls for the 2012 doomsday hoax, and kills themselves, then it is their own fault, and "natural selection in progress"?

Would you extend this point of view to children? What about parents who do harm to their children out of fear of 2012? Is there a cut-off age in your view, when people should have enough knowledge to see through these claims?

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snorks (guest) 26 Oct 2010 16:42

I suppose since you cannot be conned by anything, you would think that. However, since we are all human and hence prone to our own fantasies, I imagine that you will be conned one day or was and refuse to admit to it. Perhaps when your mental faculties fade, then you will be taken advantage off, croak and remove yourself from the gene pool. Just don't talk on the phone whilst driving and other risky behaviour.

Re: There are NO victims!

UndeadxNurse 26 Oct 2010 23:08

You do indeed realize that your logic is flawed, yes?

If there are no victims of the theories that surround 2012, then there are no victims in any other situation.
Raped? You weren't a victim! Murdered? Nope, not a victim! Tortured by a madman? Nope, still not a victim.

Your logic is terrible. Tsk, tsk. I would have expected better from someone who thinks that they're smart.

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Moo (guest) 25 Oct 2010 21:22

… You're a scumbag. Pure and simple. And people worry about the 'Global Elite' invoking 'Natural Selection', when it really is 'us' who do such things on a common basis.

Kindly find a hole and jump into it.

Tony (guest) 26 Oct 2010 16:24

Ahhhh That's adorable!

Moo (guest) 26 Oct 2010 16:45

I'm glad you find that cute, sir. Do be aware you're rather low on the list of Darwin's Law, too.

Twinklestar (guest) 27 Oct 2010 01:14

'You're a scumbag. Pure and simple. And people worry about the 'Global Elite' invoking 'Natural Selection', when it really is 'us' who do such things on a common basis. Kindly find a hole and jump into it.'

moo have you read the debating page? This goes against everything Astrogeek said on it. Please consider what you are posting before you press the button.

Moo (guest) 27 Oct 2010 01:18

Geeze, you're really jumping all over my posts today. Luckily, I don't really care.

While I respect Astrogeek's opinions and rules, people like this do not deserve courtesy and open-armed embrace. No. They deserve a kick to the junk.

Twinklestar (guest) 27 Oct 2010 01:49

And as such you are disrespecting this site and Astrogeek particularly, which you have been told before.

Moo (guest) 27 Oct 2010 01:57

I'm pretty sure the opinion of being kind and open-armed to someone who posts:

"There will always be a certain number of folks who fall for stupid stuff and will not heed the warnings that it is garbage.

They will croak, return to pure positive energy, and have a good laugh."

is ultimately the minority of this forum. And if it is otherwise, I will gladly leave this community.

Tony (guest) 27 Oct 2010 13:05

It was not my intent to be rude. The natural selection comment was snarky.

What I am saying is that there are many teachers past and present that say we each create our own reality by the thoughts we think. Also, that whatever I focus my attention on, gets bigger.

I am finding much more real happiness in my life by focusing on what is working and feels good.

Each and everyone has the right to believe whatever they choose to without judgment or condemnation.

I can see how my first post could have ruffled feathers.

There is SO much more going right in this life of ours than is going wrong.

Every person is an expression of source energy, each of us are magnificence in human form!

I wish each and every one of you joy in your life. I bet if we ever met, we would find something in common! Tony

TheGreatJuju 27 Oct 2010 17:20

I am finding much more real happiness in my life by focusing on what is working and feels good.

Good for you. It doesn't follow that people fooled by hoaxes are "natural selection in progress," or that you are inherently better than anyone for seeing through it when they don't.

Each and everyone has the right to believe whatever they choose to without judgment or condemnation.

This presupposes that people always choose what to believe or disbelieve.

I can see how my first post could have ruffled feathers.

Imagine that.

There is SO much more going right in this life of ours than is going wrong.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a mechanism by which people could be convinced of this when they think otherwise, even to the point of anxiety or worse? Oh, wait — there is. You're looking at it.

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