quoted text From what I've seen and heard of this John individual, he seems to be one of the rare few that you can at least reason with, most of the 2012 proponents are too narrow-minded to maintain reason in a conversation.
Sorry, I'm not too familiar with this new-fangled wiki text thingie, so my formatting might be off.
Anyway, I only read that one book. I didn't read Maya Cosmogenesis or any of his other books. But I was actually a little surprised to see he was filed under the 2012 proponents list. It kind of seemed to me like he is a debunker, as in a debunker of doomsday rumors. He's a proponent in the sense that he thinks 12/21/12 (as the largely accepted date of the conclusion of the Mayan Long Count calendar, though there are many critics) does have some significance — mostly TO THE MAYA in terms of their cultural mythology. Well, sure. Why wouldn't it? This is nothing new or extraordinary. Every Dec. 31 our culture throws a big celebration and then Jan 1 is seen as a day of cleansing (think new year's resolutions). Jan. 1 is really just a random day, but in our calendar it is seen as a day of renewal. This isn't a bad thing, it's just a convenient day to SWEAR to lose 20 lbs!
Where he kind of crosses into woo-artist territory is where he says that he believes humanity as a whole will begin some sort of renewal process, away from greed and materialist ego thinking to a broader unity-consciousness. This is where the psychadelics come in and visions and whatnots. There won't be any "event" but merely some kind of mysterious shift in consciousness that he believes generations from now we will see actually started around the 2012 time frame. This clearly isn't science. It's his interpretation of astrology. And anyway, it doesn't bother me. It's actually kind of nice, dontcha think ;)? On your page for him here, he's quoted in answering whether or not it will be the end of the world. He says "short answer yes, long answer no." I think what he was saying was that it will be the end of ONE KIND of world for humanity (one powered by greed and ego) and replaced by a new world of love and tolerance. And, no, the world will not physically end, neither will humankind.
I'm not trying to be an apologist for Jenkins. And I agree that he's making money off all this hype, therefore I don't want to hype him up any further. But, I think his book is useful in debunking doomsday rumors, especially for kids like Justakid who are having trouble making sense of all this and getting swept up in anxiety.
JustAKid (guest) 17 Nov 2010 03:54
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