Im aware that no one knows how the universe was created. Science neither.
At least science is trying to find out, rather than stabbing aimlessly in the dark or leafing through a dusty book. If Science could somehow prove Religion to be right, fine by me, at least it was tested rather than taken at face value. Of course, it seems more a case of science showing the world something and religion hopping on the back of it and claiming it as it's own, but hey, that may just be my viewpoint.
Sorry, but can you imagin wat this nothingness is?
Can you imagine before you were conceived by your fathers sperm meeting your mothers egg? That, for you and I, is nothingness. We as a conscious being did not exist at that point.
I prefer thinking that we live again, honestly.
Who doesn't want to live an insane length of time? Who, even through hard times, would not want to live even twice as long to experience just a bit more of it? Heck, science has already doubled if not tripled life expectancy for humans, even that is incredible. But then we get to the fuzzy, ill-defined area of the afterlife, or reincarnation. I know for a fact I have no memories of previous lives, and I'm willing to bet the vast majority of the human race that has ever or will ever live will similarly have no memories of previous lives.
Of course many claim they do, but aren't too good with proving it, so what does that leave? Maybe every single person alive today is the very first life, and we'll start finding out what happens when the first few people die (morbid, I know, but stick with me). Or maybe we do have multiple lives… but do not know about them. Well… what's the point? If the point is to experience life, but you are only aware of one of ten, a hundred, a thousand lifetimes of experience, why bother with reincarnation in the first place?
Its more probable than nothingness.
All you or anyone else needs to do to make that accurate is to prove it. How do you know, beyond all doubt, that reincarnation or an afterlife is more probable than nothingness? Until I see that it is, I'm going to go with the science, no matter how warm and fuzzy a feeling of an eternity to do anything would be.
Can you explain why we cook, sleep, run, walk, play etc?
To stay alive, to grow and recover, to move quickly, to move less quickly, to practice animal instincts… That list might as well be endless, and I don't know quite where you're leading with it.
The brain controls us?
Pretty much, it's involved in an awful lot of things…
Every action is predetermined, its our destiny.
So what's the point of experiencing life when every action is set in stone? "Oh, hey, yeah, you would have liked the skiing holiday, shame you were always going to break both your legs in a horrible accident and wouldn't be able to experience the slopes…" Fate kinda sucks, and I see no evidence that it is in play, or that we each have predetermined destinies.
Are you still going to think the brain's impulses its what control us? No, is our spirit. There is nothing as simple than that.
Well you still haven't defined spirit, nor shown evidence for such a spirit. I could even interpret that to simply mean consciousness, which is a whole kettle of fish in itself, without bringing spirits into the picture.
Albert Einstein, physicist.
Ugh. I do wonder just what the fascination is with Albert Einsteins personal beliefs. I for one couldn't give much a damn what he felt for deities or religions, what's important is that he didn't let them get in the way of his science. He didn't conclude that E=mc2 because a God did, he concluded it based on huge understanding and testing of the evidence in front of his own eyes.
There are more religious scientists than you may think, even studying the likes of Evolution and other contentious areas with Religion, but they're competent enough to not let religious bias into their research, to not let what they believe get in the way of what they find to testable facts.
I've got no problems with who believes in what, but get a tad picky when the religious step into the scientific arena and claim to know everything without providing any evidence. It's like a baseballer playing tennis and claiming he is the best player ever because every ball that comes his way is smashed out of the park. He's not the best player, he's playing the wrong game. If Religion wants to play Science, Religion ought to pick up rulebook to the scientific method first.
Free-speaker 2012 (guest) 22 Jan 2011 18:17
