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Another show on the hysteria channel comming up that tries to explain the Georgia Guide Stone, and of course they link it back to 2012. From what I have read it seems like some charter that an NWO organization would establish and im just wondering what some other peoples opinions are on this stone. Im sure after the show aires they will be woo sites using this as evidence as well.
It seems that some stones are misinterpreted. There will be always a conspirator to complicate things that are quite easy to understand.
As usual its just more fuel for conspirators to add to the 2012 fire.
Just lookin at wikipedia and did a search to find this (picture on top is NSFW, shows graffiti):
More numerology stuff, with lots of rounding. Commericial for the show on the hysteria channel shows some guys saying "its mankinds tombstone" kinda making me freak out a little…
Numerology often includes some sort of fudge factor to make it work. Rounding at some times, while carrying fractions in others, is a clear sign of BS. You'll also see them put in fudge factors here and there with lame excuses. The REALLY slick examples do not include these things, but rather have such a large pool of numbers to work with they can arrive at any result given enough manipulations.
Thats what I keep tellin myself when reading this, also since the stones were manufactured by a marble company if they really wanted to make these numbers scale the way this guy says why would they not them exact, i.e. .5m instead of .41 and 3m instead of 2.9m.
of course they link it back to 2012
there is nowhere G guide stone mentioned NWO wants to reduce world population by 2012, this is their plan but we don't know when ?
I have seen the graffiti on those stones saying "F the NWO" and things like that. Most of the things on the stones are pretty common sense things, it's just that one inscription that weirds people out and makes people link it with the NWO. Of course as mentioned no where on the stones does it say anything about 2012 and they have been there for decades.
“In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane.” - Oscar Wilde
Since the NWO by all accounts is a figment of your imagination, the most likely answer seems to be "never."
NWO by all accounts is a figment of your imagination
have you heard of ILLUMINATI ? you have not done enough research
have you heard of ILLUMINATI ?
Yet another figment of your imagination, often conflated with the first. Exception to the 18th Century intellectual movement, of course.
you have not done enough research
I don't think you know what research is.
your imagination
you're right, who control the world ? ask Rockefeller and Roschild families
you're right, who control the world ? ask Rockefeller and Roschild families
It's Rothschild, and no, they don't control the world. If only reality were so simple. I don't think you've considered the implications of your little NWO, if such a body were to actually exist.
implications of your little NWO, if such a body were to actually exist.
let's forget NWO, what about "the city of London "?
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=41807
if you don't believe in their power and what they can do to the world ? I do believe
let's forget NWO
Since you can't produce anything that even looks like evidence, I guess that's your best out.
what about "the city of London "?
Oh, look, yet another link to a fantasy website.
if you don't believe in their power and what they can do to the world ? I do believe
You believe, yes, and that's a big part of your problem. I've commented briefly on this board before about fiat money and central banking. I'm not a fan of either, but I'm not going to argue about it here or dilute the issue with your conspiracy fantasies, because they're N/A. If you want to know what I think, you can read this 1998 article from the Mises Institute. These situations are 100% explainable in economic and political terms, and none of them require the invocation of shadowy groups and conspiracies.
Does any of this crap you keep sniping about every so often have anything whatsoever to do with 2012? No, it doesn't. You're just desperately trying to reinforce your broken world-view, because when you come here we demand evidence, and that makes you very uncomfortable. It's so much easier to visit your favorite woo sites and just believe.
Does any of this crap you keep sniping about every so often have anything whatsoever to do with 2012?
are you an idiot? I'm posting in the General and not 2012 forum
*ahem*
Debate. This is the place to debate 2012 topics
are you an idiot?
No, but apparently you are illiterate.
You're practically swapping out 'NWO' for 'City of London' - what's next, 'League of Gentlemen?'
Truthseeker.
Have you any proof of existence od Iluminati?
No.
Have you any proof of existence od Iluminati?
they're 13 families, just google it, Rockefeller and Roschild are the famous ones
they're 13 families, just google it, Rockefeller and Roschild are the famous ones
The only way the so-called Illuminati exists is if we agree it is acceptable to arbitrarily make up titles and agendas and apply them relative to a set of preconceived conclusions. Sorry, but I don't think that is an accurate means of modeling reality.
"Just Google it," is probably the second worst advice anyone can give when it comes to sorting through conspiracy theories and pseudoscience. The flat-out worst is believing woo sites wholesale, and linking others to such horse crap.
Of course, governments and some of the very rich have conspired to rule the world in one form or another. There are enough real conspiracies to satisfy even the greatest Pollyanna that one's government and the extremely rich and powerful don't play by the same rules, if they play by any rules at all, as decent folk. Those of us who have watched the U.S. government support one fascist dictator after another because he was "anti-communist" are uncomfortable to find that there are people who are so far to the right of the right-wing that they too want to expose the cover-ups. It is of no use to point out to the PCTs that our government led coups of democratically elected governments, assassinated leaders of nations and provided military and financial aid to thugs and murderers around the world, in a misguided belief that they were saving the world from communism, as well as opening up new markets for capitalist expansion. Many of the leaders and top agents in our government are and were evil and incompetent, but, as inept as they tend to be, even they would recognize the limits of their ambitions.
I looked at the skeptic thing, it says there is no evidence of their existence? they're physically here, have you ever heard of Bildenburg ? what the elites do there?
have you ever heard of Bildenburg ? what the elites do there?
Now is this what you think they do there, or what they actually do there? Because I've a little hunch that the two are wildly different…
I looked at the skeptic thing, it says there is no evidence of their existence? they're physically here, have you ever heard of Bildenburg ? what the elites do there?
This:
Now is this what you think they do there, or what they actually do there? Because I've a little hunch that the two are wildly different…
I say again, "Truthseeker," the only way the so-called Illuminati exists is if we agree it is acceptable to arbitrarily make up titles and agendas and apply them relative to a set of preconceived conclusions. Sorry, but I don't think that is an accurate means of modeling reality.
have you heard of ILLUMINATI ?
I have heard enough to know that it is all BS. :-D
you have not done enough research
We have a page on these claims, so why don't you read before re-claim this? And what about showing us some evidence? That'd be great.
Illuminatie is the name of a chess group.
Illuminati should be the name of a lamp factory.
Old thread, yes I know. But in my Law and Justice class (Strange? Yes.) we watched the Decoded episode about the Guide Stones and they repeated the same stuff. California being under water, solar flares bringing some catostrophic event, safe zones, Illuminati, yadda yadda.
But they did bring an interesting point about how many cultures like the R.C. (forgot how it's really spelled), Mayans, etc. seem to tie together with 2012. Of course, I'm not saying I'm having second thoughts about the whole thing, but I thought it was an interesting point.
But of course, there's always the one person that buys into it all. Thinking we should build ships like in the movie 2012.
I was surprised the people on the show looked into it on both sides though. With a few people raving on about how it's a sign of the end of the world, they talked to an astronomer that mentioned the solar maximum would be weak and have no effect on us. I wish the people talked to more people like the astronomer instead of people (who also carried a map which showed the safe zones and flooded areas for just such an occasion) that would say there were "signs" and "proof" that it was true.
Everything is proceeding as I have forseen. Wait… when did that happen?
I was surprised the people on the show looked into it on both sides though.
The funny thing about 2012 is that there is no both side. It is not even a debate.
But 2012 hoaxers want you to drag into a debate. Because when you are debating your mind is kept busy with word play and gets so distracted that you don't see the obvious. That any 2012 claims just can't exist in reality.
The weird part is when you actually understand what the 2012 hoaxers are claiming.
Actually understand physically what they are saying, then you immediately see the insanity in their claims.
To put it into comparison. As an adult claiming that 2012 is true is equivalent as being an adult claiming that Santa Clause is real and that he is coming.
It is ok when your are young and want to impress people, but when you get older your sanity check should kick in after a while.
I have seen a lot of claims and speculation about other cultures supposedly mentioning 2012, but I can never find any real proof. For instance, I researched and did math on the claimed Hindu calendar correlation and posted a thread about it here. The time period we are in doesn't "end" for a few hundred thousand years or so I believe. Even one of the closest cultures to the Maya the Aztecs weren't in agreement with the calendar evidently so why would unrelated cultures be?
“In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane.” - Oscar Wilde
