What about Nostradamus predictions how can you prove he's not right, or the scientists reporting the alignment with the sun isn't going to happen? How do I know that your site isn't a scam and your just putting out false hopes you tell me and show me proof your right that it's a hoax.
Nostradamus never made a prediction about 2012, so how can he be right about something he never said. Iv been a regular visitor to this site for about 4 months and it hasn't cost me a penny, neither will it ever because they ask for no money. Yeah, great scam guys, pages of fantastic and accurate info free of charge. What kind of scam is that?
Thanks, Gary.
Anna,
As Gary said, we don't ask for money, nor do we accept it. Not much of a scam, huh?
Sites that pretend to quote Nostradamus are twisting his poems to fit their own screwed up ideas. He never mentioned 2012.
One can't prove a negative. However, we can and have proven that the claims being made about 2012 are scientifically impossible. I predict that giant pink unicorns are going to appear and trample everyone on Earth. Prove me wrong. As we've said many times, those making extraordinary claims bear the burden of proof. So far, they have provided none.
Finally, why would we care about giving you false hope? We spend many hours of our own time every day trying to help people. The site owner is paying for the site out of his own pocket. What are you doing for anyone?
edgar cayce is better
this was made in 1934 january
8. As to the changes physical again: The earth will be broken
up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of
Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will
be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear
off the east coast of America. There will be the upheavals
in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the
eruption of volcanos in the Torrid areas, and there will be
shifting then of the poles - so that where there has been
those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more
tropical, and moss and fern will grow.
Yeah, clearly edgar cayce was a much better liar than nostrodamus. Come on guys, can you ever make a point backed with evidence or do you have to keep resorting to fake predictions? I hope you know all your doing is fear mongering, probably scaring kids at the same time. Hope your both proud of yourselves.
Edgar Cayce (pronounced Casey) is known as one of America's greatest psychics. His followers maintain that Cayce was able to tap into some sort of higher consciousness, such as God or the akashic record, to get his "psychic knowledge." He used this "knowledge" to predict that California will slide into the ocean and that New York City will be destroyed in some sort of cataclysm. He predicted that in 1958 the U.S. would discover some sort of death ray used on Atlantis.
source: http://www.skepdic.com/cayce.html
Conclusion: Another fraud. Death rays, indeed.
His claim about California is also nonsense. The part of California east of the San Andreas fault is on the North American plate. The western part is on the Pacific Plate. These plates are very slowly sliding past one another. The land isn't floating. It is part of a tectonic plate, so there is no place for it to sink to. It will just continue moving past the North American plate, but not at a rate that people would find particularly noticeable. I believe the rate of movement of the Pacific plate is about 6 cm per year. That means it would move about 60 km in 1 million years.
How do I know that your site isn't a scam and your just putting out false hopes you tell me and show me proof your right that it's a hoax.
Good an valid question.
Look to the left, see the explanations of every topic and these topics can be checked with independent scientific sources. No one here is to expect you to believe blindly.
What about Nostradamus predictions how can you prove he's not right
Well, he's never been right yet. Since he never mentioned 2012, he can't very well be right about that either.
or the scientists reporting the alignment with the sun isn't going to happen?
You can check this out for yourself. Look at this screenshot from an astronomy program called Stellarium. The Sun is at the top. Its path is the horizontal line running through it. The centre of the galaxy is the small circle with crosshairs at the bottom. You can see that it's nowhere near an alignment. Moreover, the Sun is in this position every single year.
Feel free to download the software and try it yourself. The are other programs such as Starry Night and any number of online displays of the night sky. Are the writers of this software in league with these scientists and the creators of this website in some sort of giant deception? Or are a bunch of cranks and scam artists telling lies about alignments in order to attract attention and sell useless survival gear? Which sounds the more likely?
show me proof your right that it's a hoax.
Have you asked the purveyors of doom to show you that they are right. They are making the claim so they must bear the burden of proof. If they can't come up with anything remotely convincing, whose fault is that? Certainly not this site and its contributors.
if you search outside this site, you will figure that no scientists says there will be an alignment. The only thing happening, is the sun aligning with the center of the galaxy, and that happens every year, so why should 2012 be any different?
Research Nostradamus, im sure you'll find other people proving he didnt say a word about 2012 outside this website.
The only thing about Nostradamus, is that most people believe that he predicted 3th world war, which should start in 2007 and end in 2012. I guess this is where all this 2012 and Nostradamus started. There's quite a few agues on the web from archives, whether he said it would end in 2012 or 2011, but fact is it should have started 2007, and i really dont see my self here, in a 3th world war, do you?
EDIT: Found this.
"Nostradamus writes in one of his quatrains – “In the sky will be seen a great fire dragging a trail of sparks”. This line clearly suggest a comet and many are of the opinion that it will be very big in size. Certain interpreters put the size to be just a little less than the planet Jupiter, and if such a comet passes close to the earth the effect of its gravity will cause the oceans to rise and also give rise to earthquakes. "
I guess this clears up where all the Nibiru tails started. And i clearly says 2012 in his prediction.. no?
He did predict some sort of comet, but no where, anytime do i see the number 2012 in his poems. Please keep in mind, that astronomers all over the world, sits down every day, hoping to find a comet or a new planet. It's something that would be huge for them, since the comet will be named after them, and really, who doesnt want that? If there was such comet, due to hit us or pass close by in 2012, we would know. On NASA's website you will find information about Apophis, which might have a tiny chance of hitting us around 2035, so please dont start with your "oh, NASA and other astronomers are hiding the truth, because we cant handle it!" well, why are they not hiding Apophis then, tell me?
It's worth noting that even if this Nostradumus quatrain is legitimate (a lot of supposed quatrains are not legitimate, they are made up to pretend he predicted something), it's always just a matter of fitting the claim to the text.
This line clearly suggest a comet and many are of the opinion that it will be very big in size.
It is easy to predict a comet. There are so many comets out there that you can hardly fail in your prediction.
Agree. And again, if a huge comet was heading our way, wouldnt astronomers be pretty excited about being the ones who discovered it?
Yes, they would. It would be named after the discoverer, which would be a big deal.
About 20 years ago I saw a movie based on Nostredamus' predictions. Somehow he seemed to get all the predictions right that happened before the movie was made. Then they sort of wanted to give an insight into the future, and somehow nothing seemed to be obvious. So after watching the movie I did not know what to expect from the future. As for the end of the world he gave a date, which was 3797. The year 2012 was not even mentioned in that movie. I remember hearing about a 1000 year of peace, and also WWIII which was supposed to preced this peaceful period. But I could not figure out when and how WWIII would happen. My memory can be wrong of course, but I know that I really wanted to see the movie and find out what will happen in the future. Needless to say I did not get any clue!
I just wanted to thank you for your comments. I have been on your site for the past 3hours and has really made me think the world will not be ending anytime soon like as in 2012. I would like to ask why another tsunami what causes them and will there be more. Thanks again for this site it puts my mind at peace and gives me hope fir the future.
This tsunami was caused by moving of the sea-floor caused by the Earth quake.
Will there be more? No one can predict this, they can only predict it the moment the Earth quake actually happens and the closer you are the less warning time you have. You still will get many aftershocks in Japan because the ground is trying to settle but it should not be that big any more.
The interesting thing is that none of the 2012 hoaxers predicted this. But I have no doubt that they are all now updating their website and adding this in the hope that no one did notice that they put this AFTER the event.
To put it into perspective. 2012 is a hoax by lunatics and scam artists. Their sites are just sites to scare you so they can control you but they cannot predict anything and have not even a clue about the science behind it.
Hi again Anna,
I'm glad you stuck around and found the site helpful. As Obaeyens said, tsunamis are usually caused by undersea earthquakes. That was the cause of the one from the Japanese earthquake. Its epicenter was 6 miles offshore east of Japan.
Hi Anna;
I'm glad that you are finding the site useful and informative.
As far as tsunamis, yes, there will be more in the future. As long as there are earthquakes or underwater landslides that displace huge volumes of water, there will be tsunami.
The earthquake in Japan was very much like the earthquake in the Indian ocean in 2004 that triggered the tsunami there. Both of the fault lines are subduction faults. See http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/oceanography-book/earthquakes.htm for a good explanation of these faults.
What happened in both cases, is as the subducting plate sank, the overriding plate bent down, kind of like a massive spring. When the earthquake occurred, the overriding plate snapped back up, pushing a massive volume of water upward. That's what caused the tsunami in the indian ocean in 2004 and the pacific ocean in 2011.
Not all earthquakes will cause a tsunami. The big fault running through California is a strike-slip fault, where the plates are moving past each other, instead of one diving under the other. This kind of fault is much less likely to cause a tsunami, because the motion of the earthquakes does not tend to displace as much water.
We live on a geologically active planet. As long as there are earthquakes, there will be tsunamis.
From the page above, look at this image. Notice the red lines. Now take note of where in the world we have had big destructive earthquakes recently: Chile, Japan, and Indonesia. All of them are on subduction zones.
The destruction in Japan is terrible, and as a Californian, I feel a strong kinship with the victims of these earthquakes. But, it is normal geologic activity. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. You should ignore the people who are saying that the earthquake is a sign of something, and focus on ways to provide aid to the people in Japan, and make sure that you are prepared to take care of yourself and your family in the case of a natural disaster.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
Regarding Nostradamus, I watched a documentary by Discovery Channel and even though it showed two sides of the argument the side that stated that his prophecies talked about events BEFORE he wrote them was more convincing. For instance, "explosions from beneath the Earth will shake the towers of the New City" about 9/11. But it could also be about an volcanic eruption near Naples. Naples means Neapolis which means "New City".






