You people say "some people will die because of this "rumor" of 2012

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A HELL of a lot more than just some will die because of listening to fools such as yourselves !!!!!!!

You people say "some people will die because of this "rumor" of 2012

Matthew (guest) 28 Mar 2011 18:05

Funny, that I see NOTHING on your site about Milankovitch ! You people need to wake the @#&* up !

Re: You people say "some people will die because of this "rumor" of 2012

TheGreatJuju 28 Mar 2011 18:14

Funny, that I see NOTHING on your site about Milankovitch !

Because it has nothing to do with 2012, though we've seen time and again that woo artists will link just about anything to their pet doom claims, given half a chance. If there's some crank out there claiming something about Milankovitch cycles and 2012, I won't be surprised.

You people need to wake the @#&* up !

I'm sorry, is there something on this site that you wanted to object to? If so, you need to actually make a coherent, well-supported case. Telling us to "wake the @#&* up" is of dubious value, and it suggests to me that you don't actually have an argument.

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Re: You people say "some people will die because of this "rumor" of 2012

Tomy2011 28 Mar 2011 18:15

So, according to you, some people will indeed die because of this hoax? I agree. And we mention Milankovitch on the "Rotational Pole Shift" page.

Edit: I just read the summary of this thread and something caught my attention:

A HELL of a lot more than just some will die because of listening to fools such as yourselves

Why are we fools in your opinion? I should ignore everything you say as well as I ignore other ranter, but you might want to explain why we are 'fools', ok?

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Re: You people say "some people will die because of this "rumor" of 2012

bikenbeer2000 28 Mar 2011 18:17

A HELL of a lot more than just some will die because of listening to fools such as yourselves !!!!!!!

And just how might that happen?

Funny, that I see NOTHING on your site about Milankovitch

We are perfectly well aware of Milankovitch Cycles and the fact that they have nothing to do with 2012.
Some people may die due to suicide by listening to and believing the bunch of doomsday ratbags which you appear to be defending. That's the reality and that's what we're trying to prevent.
If you find some factual error in what this site says, by all means point it out. But you won't. Ranters like you never do.

Re: You people say "some people will die because of this "rumor" of 2012

Awesomeee 28 Mar 2011 18:58

Were not fools YOU know… Ask NASA…

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Gary (guest) 28 Mar 2011 19:13

Yet another informative rant I see. Is it just me or are these people getting more desperate the closer we get to 2012? How foolish of us to not believe a non existing planet will hit us or a solar flare will turn us arse over head or that the magnetic poles will flip for no apparent reason. We would be much better off listening to hysterical sad acts who seem determined to convince the world we are doomed. If that's what you believe then go ahead and build a bunker and cram it full of bottled water and skittles, don't let us stop you, just remember to give us all your stuff before you do.

Re: You people say "some people will die because of this "rumor" of 2012

Awesomeee 28 Mar 2011 21:02

If you go to nasa they have a Q/A it explains or sum upps most of the hoax you see we are all sick of this hoax Us and experts know the same people who say all this nonsence are crackpots.

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SE87 (guest) 28 Mar 2011 21:50

Not sure why you guys even bother to give these clowns the light of day. It's obvious they aren't here to engage in a reasonable and respectable argument, most likely because they don't have anything to engage an argument with. "Hit and run" posts are the staple of trolls who have nothing of value to add to any discussion.

Slava (guest) 28 Mar 2011 23:30

I second that. Such rants should not be dignified. Perhaps they should be ‘moderated’ out of this web site. This the best site in overall quality I have seen in a decade. Censorship considerations aside, those who use profanity to attack the members of this site have no place here, I would say.

bikenbeer2000 29 Mar 2011 00:04

I agree that this is probably a troll who won't come back and is just trying to stir people up. A long string of rebuttals probably means that they have achieved their aim, but at least a few good responses are necessary in case any visitor to the site somehow thinks that the troll has made a good point.

Moderating rants out of the site is not normally done because they serve as a very good example to neutrals just what an intolerant, illiterate and ignorant collection of individuals the 2012 proponents are.

Slava (guest) 29 Mar 2011 00:12

Excellent point!

Raphael (guest) 29 Mar 2011 06:51

Umm, the Milankovitch cycle is a bit too gradual to affect us so drastically, right? I can't fully understand this but I think that's the idea, right?

Astrogeek 29 Mar 2011 06:55

Correct. The Milankovitch cycles explain some very long-term climate cycles, and not short-term changes.

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Raphael (guest) 29 Mar 2011 07:51

Regarding this though, if you are reading this. I request that you be less strong with your wording. It's slightly off-putting and it makes you look desperate. Also, please try to understand what scientists are saying about this before you even post here. Third, I think you depend more on your strong language than logic to make a point. It's a little shameful. Well, I hope I didn't offend anyone. :)

DieselHorseLAW 29 Mar 2011 08:41

The OP may return to say something, but more than likely you won't see them post again in this thread. I highly doubt the OP knew anything about Milankovitch cycles, but wanted to try to sound like he did hoping to cause a stir here. It seems a lot of the trolls that come here are teenagers, or they are just very immature adults. They don't come to argue a point usually, but just do a "hit and run" post where they post something they can't back up and usually don't know much about what they are saying, and don't return to back it up.

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bikenbeer2000 29 Mar 2011 11:52

He's obviously a Milankovitch 'groupie'. Look at the answer by 'Aristotle' to this question on Yahoo! Answers.

DieselHorseLAW 29 Mar 2011 12:32

Nice pointing that out. I hadn't even heard Milankovitch cycles being brought up much until this post. I don't quite understand why he thinks it helps any claims for 2012, or has anything to do with 2012.

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Raphael (guest) 29 Mar 2011 15:10

*eyetwitch* That's the same guy, isn't it.

DieselHorseLAW 29 Mar 2011 15:14

Obviously, we can't prove that, but it definitely sounds as such.

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bikenbeer2000 29 Mar 2011 20:19

From experience of trolls and assorted loons, I'd say there's a 99% probability it's the same person.