Curiouser and curiouser..

Curiouser and curiouser..

Amanda (guest) 31 Mar 2011 00:32

Hello all,

Recently I've been able to basically diminish my fear of 2012 altogether, as well as other crack-pot conspiracy theories. I stopped visiting Above Top Secret, and other fear-mongering websites. Today, out of boredom, I decided to go there (ATS) just to see what they were digging up now. It's not news that there are people claiming to know someone 'in the know' about the supposed '2011-2012 doom scenarios' and how their 'in the know' person, knows that something is going to happen soon (are you following me?) and things like that. I clicked on a thread today, http://abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread682183/pg1 I've come to you all about a zillion threads on ATS it seems like, and this one, yet again, is one that scares me. If things like this aren't true, why are there so many people claiming such things? They're not making money by bragging about it. Seriously, am I the only one scared?

I can't take this kind of stuff anymore.. Not to mention all the claims that the USA will be a 'different USA than what we're used to' and things of the like.. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN.

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Tomy2011 31 Mar 2011 00:54

First of all, if you are bored, watch TV.

If things like this aren't true, why are there so many people claiming such things?

Amanda, they work for the fear. They must claim such things, no matter how harm they are causing. It's their life.

The article:

All I can say is let the comment sink in and honestly ask yourself, am I at least minimally prepared? With all the craziness occurring at the moment, doesn't seem like it is that far fetched.

"With all craziness"… that happen every time.

1. Japan & Radiation |2. Libya - Middle East In General (Including Iran) | 3. Earthquakes - New Madrid Fault Line | 4. Animal Deaths 5. Government Shutdown | 6. Dollar Crash | 7. $80 Trillion Derivatives Looming | 8. Nazi DHS laws | 9. Commodities Rigging | 10. Nibiru/Planet | 11. Federal Reserve Ultimatum - April 4th | 12. People waking up.

Despite "People waking up", "Nibiru/Planet X", "Animal Deaths" and "Commodities Rigging"(what the heck is this?), the list is n awful cherry-picking… I wanna add the "tens of earthquakes everyday", "people moving out their homes to another home" and "people dying from rabies"(hey, no one).
See how they do?

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TheGreatJuju 31 Mar 2011 02:08

When that's all these people every talk about, no wonder they all "feel" like "something is about to happen," even though none of them can even begin to identify what it might be.

Seriously, there are literally hundreds upon hundreds of posts like that on ATS. Half of them feature someone who claims to be a whistleblower or insider with some super secret batch of information, or someone who knows someone who knows someone's third cousin removed, who just so happens to work for [insert government agency here]. The other half is comprised of self-anointed prophets, alien messengers and prophets who claim to channel aliens. No, most of them don't make money from their insane rants, but people do things for motivations other than financial profit. Just look at some of the idiots who have shown up on this very board and started long, pointless discussions about the most absurd claims. Some people crave attention, even if it means cooking up fantastic b.s. that frightens others.

What's even more shameful is how all the other believers descend upon such claims to reinforce them and add fuel to the metaphorical fire. Just look at their "evidence" — for the most part, people are just linking to other ATS threads and other hysterial woo sites.

If you want science, go to a science site. If you want news, go to the AP or CNN or your local network affiliate. There is absolutely no reason to immerse yourself in woo when you can't differentiate it from reality.

Seriously, am I the only one scared?

Probably not, unfortunately.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN.

It means you need to stop reading websites that have a propensity for bullshit. At the top of that list is ATS and Godlike Productions. Of course, you already know this, but you went back there anyway.

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Marko S 31 Mar 2011 18:26

Yes, Godlike Productions is BAD.

It's like the official insane asylum of the internet.

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mHexE7D7 31 Mar 2011 21:24

Yes, that's a very good description. But at least it keeps all the nutters in the one place. If only we could shut the doors to the virtual asylum and throw away the virtual key.

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littleboat (guest) 31 Mar 2011 01:14

There's a term called Cognitive Dissonance, which refers to a feeling of discomfort resulting from conflicting beliefs.

There are a lot of people on the internet who've been spouting this 2012 stuff for a decade and it's hard for them to rationalize their obsession when all evidence is pointing nothing big happening that year.

I've been conscious of 2012 theories since 2005. It's amazing to look back at all the dates and events that were supposed to precede 2012 with no outcome. Aliens were "definitely" supposed make themselves known years ago. The US/NWO was "definitely" going to stage a false flag event that would kill thousands. Nibiru would "definitely" be visible by 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, etc…

But these things are not happening. So, 2012 proponents are still hanging on to anything they can get… Mega-Earthquakes! Comet Elenin! All of the North Hemisphere Radiated!!!!

And yes, it is scary to read about fictionalized scary scenarios. I fall prey to them myself.

One way to cure yourself from ATS. Go through the history of some of the forums there. Go back as far as you can. As you know, you will see tons and tons and tons of predictions, and basically none of them come true.

OK, Japan had a bad earthquake, but we knew that was going to happen eventually anyway. That's not much of a prediction.

bikenbeer2000 31 Mar 2011 04:24

One way to cure yourself from ATS. Go through the history of some of the forums there.

The Internet Archive Wayback Machine as applied to ATS is always useful. Have a look at this page of topics from a couple of years ago and see how nothing ever comes from a whole raft of hysteria-filled pronouncements.

3WMElliott 31 Mar 2011 05:09

Heh, the last entry on that page "I have almost had a gutful of all these prophecies, that never come true being posted on ATS, cloggin up the boards and frustrating everyone…."

Gary (guest) 31 Mar 2011 08:25

My sympathy kind of goes out the window when people constantly visit sites like ats and godlikeproductions. You are well aware that these sites are there to scare people, so why go there? Seriously, I need to know what your logic is here. You made a rather alarming statement, "out of boredom I went to ATS". That almost sounds like being scared is entertaining you, or maybe you don't feel normal unless your scared. What did you expect to find there? Did you think you'd go there and they'd be all "you know what, everything is fine, there's no problems or conspiracy in the world, go and enjoy life and be happy". Coming here with "a zillion" threads about ATS implies you refuse to learn from your mistakes, and you expect everyone here to make you feel better because of a problem you consistently create. This site will help, but I suspect you won't help yourself, which is a must if your ever going to fully overcome this fear. So I say again, DO.NOT.GO.TO.THESE.SITES! They are dangerous and no good ever comes from visiting them. It pulls you away from reality and enters your already anxious mind into a world of conspiracy and doom. Why would you keep doing that to yourself? I have sympathy for someone who accidentally runs into a site like ATS and it scares them, but sorry, you should know better by now.

DieselHorseLAW 31 Mar 2011 11:25

I tend to agree a bit with this, simply because I stopped visiting GodLikeProductions a long time ago and it did me a world of good. I mean when I started getting worried reading threads of people claiming to be government agents and/or aliens leaking information about how Obama was grown in a lab and…. just yeah you get the point. By the way did ya'll see on the page bikenbeer posted towards the bottom the post "Your future isn't so bad" or whatever with the person claiming to be from the past and saying that they could see fine until 2200 something and that all the claims of doom are wrong, because he knows and can see. Lol

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Gary (guest) 31 Mar 2011 14:36

What really annoys me about it is that fact that if the OP has been on here before with garbage from that particular site, then the chances are that people here have had to go to great lengths to reassure her. Then after feeling better, she goes back, and completely forgets whatever answers she's had here and takes the word of some random nutcase. Sure, anxiety may be the cause and I sympathies with that, but if your already anxious why throw more fuel on the fire? It's a vicious cycle, but the people on these forums can't be expected to go round and round all the time. It's not fair on them.

JamesJJlm 31 Mar 2011 15:29

Ha, this is exactly what my last post is summarizing. I do this quite a bit. Hence the reason why some people just don't respond to my "Geryl posts" anymore. I agree that its not fair to people who help others on this forum, but they are also volunteers and have the right to not post here anymore if they choose not to. (Even though it would really suck, and I hope they stick around until 2013)

DieselHorseLAW 31 Mar 2011 17:43

One person you can count on being here is me, heck I am on here everyday. I don't mind answering questions no matter how repetitive they may be, because I have been there and I know how it is. As far as PG goes, that is something me and you share in common James, and I always try to respond to your posts about him and reassure you just as you've done with me numerous times including sending me the e-mail you got from the documentary producer. Me and you both have done a lot of research ourselves to help ourselves in the process and I as well as you from what I have seen are using that knowledge to help out others here. I know how the OP is with that website, because I was the same way for a while with a similar one, it becomes almost a fear addiction like you feel like you need to go there to be informed. I have since replaced that with this website and have stopped going to the other one all together. It helped me a lot, because the crap that gets posted on those websites is off the wall ridiculous. If you ever need anything James feel free to contact me through the PM function if you don't want to post it in the open forums. We'll get through this together, Jason included because I know he has had the same fear as us a while back.

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mHexE7D7 31 Mar 2011 21:28

OK, Japan had a bad earthquake, but we knew that was going to happen eventually anyway. That's not much of a prediction.

Yeah but who predicted it would be caused deliberately by HAARP? lmao.

HAARP-tards, what CAN you say to them?