Just some advice

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Just some advice

Bish (guest) 11 Apr 2011 07:53

Hey guys

I wouldn't call myself a gullible person by any means but recently I've found myself completely absorbed by the whole nonsense surrounding 2012, particularly 'Planet X' (and it's other names)
I have had anxiety problems in the past but have overcome them with relative ease however this time round I'm finding it extremely difficult. I can hardly sleep. Whenever I'm awake I am consumed with the idea of this 'doomsday' but more than that I am consumed with the idea that this fear is not going to leave me until the date passes or possibly it may never leave me. I've read forums on this site and people with similar fears. It may be because of my past experience with anxiety but I'm strong enough that I'm not quite at the point of breaking down etc.

Just to confirm here, I've read everything thoroughly but it doesn't seem to be uprooting this anxiety and fear i have and that's what really frightens me.
I know for a fact a large proportion of people who are worried are in the same boat as me. I don't believe it but the irrationality of it has no effect.

Long post I know but what I'm basically wondering if anyone has any advice?
Be it from people who have been in my situation in the past or from the main people of this site (however I know the latter will not be able to tell me anything I don't already know)

Thanks in advance guys

Bish (guest) 11 Apr 2011 08:03

also by 'irrationality of it has no effect' I mean irrationality of it is having massive effect.

Don't know where that misconstruction came from

keona'okelani (guest) 11 Apr 2011 08:27

hi bish! :) i had the same feeling as yours but my advice to you is to visit the website everyday in order to get knowledge from what really is happening and how to deal with the situation you are in. if it happens that some people around you might be saying 2012 stuff, first thing you would ask them is "do you have any credible evidence to back up what youre saying?". i also encurage you to ask any questions here. i am sure anyone can help :)

Bish (guest) 11 Apr 2011 08:29

That's just the thing. I don't believe the pseudoscience, there's just a part of me that is asking 'what if'

I don't understand why I can't just admit the obvious scientific truth and that's what's freaking me out

keona'okelani (guest) 11 Apr 2011 08:37

pseudoscience is a bunch of nonsence. and just another piece of advice, dont watch the hysteria channel (history channel). it's a bunch of pseudosciences and fake facts that freaks out people. airing nonsense to get a lot of viewers.

there are a lot of credible evidences on this site that can calm you down. and that if ever you need a support, we are always here. i know it is hard to admit that the evidence is right there on your screen staring back at you, but we just have to accept it. plus if you get educated by this kind of things, you'll know for sure to debunk everything that causes you any fear.

for the past years people had been predicting the end of the world, but guess what? we are still here. no one really knows. and the sad thing is that they are including the bible and other things to back up their claims. the bible says no one knows and i believe in that. we dont know when the world will end at all. plus the only problem now is that we have such an ease access on the internet and medias that news spread really fast which results to more fear. unlike before.

when they are talking about the nature disasters happening and linking it to 2012 now, it's all nonsense too. these things had been happening ever since before. same thing as the 11:11 phenomena. read the article about it on the left side.

all in all, 2012 will just be another year.

Bish (guest) 11 Apr 2011 08:41

I really appreciate what you're saying and I'm sure you know it's not that easy to fully accept. This website is incredibly detailed and I 100% believe almost every thing I've read on it however there is just a barrier in my mind that is stopping me from getting rid of the irrational thoughts.

Thanks for helping though Keona , I guess it's just up to me at the end of the day.

May all be well with you =]

keona'okelani (guest) 11 Apr 2011 08:44

no problem if you need help. again, we'll be here for you. :) may all be well with you too. i know how you feel because i still am worried sometimes but this site had help me a lot and so it can help you too :)

just live everyday as if it's your last day. stay happy, keep smiling. my alohas to you…

Gary (guest) 11 Apr 2011 09:39

Hi bish. Iv suffered from anxiety my whole life, mostly due to health issues, and the "what ifs" are the worst part. However, there is no what ifs when it comes to this hoax. Here's my advice: tell yourself over and over, there's no way any of that can happen. Regarding planet x, it's as simple as this, IT DOES NOT EXIST. It can't, thousands of astronomers would see it, the solar system would be doing back flips due to it's gravitational effect, earth probably wouldn't even exist if this planet hit us every 3600 years as claimed by idiots. I completely understand how you feel, but remember this fear is in your own head, it's your own mind playing tricks on you. Anxiety has a way of tricking your mind into seeing something that isn't there, and trust me, thats all that's happening here. If it's stopping you sleeping and eating, you may eventually become depressed as well as physically ill, don't let this happen. If you've read this site and are still feeling very anxious, I'd advise you to see a doctor if you haven't already done so. They won't think your crazy and put a strate jacket on you, chances are they'll simply advise you on lifestyle changes and stuff like that. By the way, exercise is great for dealing with anxiety, it's the best cure iv ever had anyway. Any time you need help, come here and ask. Good luck and I sincerely hope you feel better soon.

Alene Y 13 Apr 2011 05:03

Hi Keona,
It's good to see you here helping others.

3WMElliott 11 Apr 2011 13:19

How many 'what ifs' do you think about in a day, for example? And I'm not talking about 'what if a planet collided with Earth' or 'what if the Sun suddenly disappeared', I'm thinking more along the lines of 'what if this piece of food got lodged in my throat? Or this one? What if this next bite is the last bite I'll ever make?'

What if I fall down the stairs? What if I stub my toe? What if I catch my fingers in the door? What if I avoid one car driving into me, only for another to actually hit me? What if there's a guy with a gun at McDonalds? What if a loose roof tile were to fall on my head?

Alright, by now you get the idea that you don't think about these things because they simply aren't a direct concern for you, either because they do not happen, or are so unlikely to happen it's not worth waiting for them, or if they do happen, it's not too big a deal. Just extend that line of thought to <insert nonsense 2012 claim here> - in many ways, is surprising why so many fear a planetary collision for which there is no evidence nor likelihood, and yet do not fear being subject to a drive by shooting or something. Far more likely to be shot than hit by a planet, shouldn't we all fear guns?

A bit of perspective goes a long way, knowing the likelihoods of this and that, knowing the statistics of what does happen, the probability of an event, what is and isn't possible and so on.

Bish (guest) 11 Apr 2011 17:51

True, I have never thought of it that way.

The replies are much appreciated guys. I'll try my best to dislodge the irrationalities.

obaeyens 11 Apr 2011 19:16

I agree.

What if 2012 is a hoax?
What if on 2012 I win the lottery?
What if on 2012 all my dreams come true.

These are also what if's that are valid.

Bish (guest) 12 Apr 2011 00:40

And despite this absolute wealth of common sense and proof my sub-concious still cannot accept that

obaeyens 12 Apr 2011 18:49

What if your sub-conscious could except this? ;-)

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Bishh 12 Apr 2011 02:09

Just to let you know i made an account so if by some sudden miracle I overcome irrationality I can attempt to help people in similar situations

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obaeyens 12 Apr 2011 18:50

Just to let you know i made an account so if by some sudden miracle I overcome irrationality I can attempt to help people in similar situations

You know when you got rid of it the moment you start to realize how silly those claims really are and you have a big laugh about it.

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Alene Y 12 Apr 2011 20:44

Hi Bish,
Since you know that there is nothing real to indicate that 2012 will be anything other than a normal year, you're almost there. I would bet that you will overcome irrationality.

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Bishh 12 Apr 2011 21:21

I'd like to think so. This site helps to no end. It's just a shame that there's so many people out there legitimately buying into the hoax. Fear mongering - One of the cons of the Internet i suppose

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Alene Y 12 Apr 2011 21:38

I agree. This hoax has been so much bigger than most of the previous ones because of the internet and the Hysteria Channel. Kids are even supplied with laptops at some schools. There was never such widespread internet access for kids before. YouTube is another big part of it. Any screwball can fake up a video and post it there. I like watching music videos, but I don't understand why anyone would watch or believe any of the EOTW nonsense videos.

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Awesomeee 12 Apr 2011 22:56

well said alene y jee ur so good :)

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Bishh 13 Apr 2011 01:15

I'm not sure what it is but it always seem to be so so much worse at night. It's really messing with my sleep pattern in a big way =[

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DieselHorseLAW 13 Apr 2011 01:39

I can tell you that if you do have underlying anxiety, I have heard and have experienced myself that anxiety gets worse at night for whatever reason. My anxiety has always been worse at night and all my major panic attacks have been at night as far as I can remember. I have never really come up with a reason other than maybe it is because when you are awake at night, everybody else in the house is asleep and you feel sort of alone. Night can just be depressing I guess.

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Bishh 13 Apr 2011 01:51

Yep, that sounds right on the money. During the day when i think about things i feel a bit silly and don't really have any major issues however after it gets dark up to the point where I fall asleep (even if it is daylight) I feel as though every second of the day is just torment.

Anxiety is not a nice feeling whatsoever

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Alene Y 13 Apr 2011 04:45

Everything seems to be worse at night. I think that happens because you are out in the real world during the day and your mind is occupied with other things. At night, when you're not occupied with real issues, your mind has time to wander toward the esoteric. Surely there is something you really enjoy doing that would distract you from worrying about non-issues. I used to lie in bed and stew about what I hadn't done that day, what I needed to do the next day, and even about conversations I'd had (whether I'd said or done the wrong thing). Now I put in a fantasy or Sci-Fi movie and set the TV sleep timer for 90 minutes. I fall asleep in about the first 10 minutes.

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Bishh 13 Apr 2011 04:47

That's what I used to do for my old anxieties and for the most part it worked a treat but for this one I just can't distract myself and believe me I've tried my hardest. I'm running out of options.

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Alene Y 13 Apr 2011 05:00

Well, maybe you should see your doctor. He might suggest some anti-anxiety medication. If your anxieties get to be too much for you to handle on your own, this can help put you back on track.

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Bishh 13 Apr 2011 05:08

I've never had medication before and it seems so silly to have to start taking it over this. I'm far too embarrassed to tell anyone about it.

I put loads of faith in logic and it just fails miserably in the face of anxiety and that's what scares me the most.

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Alene Y 13 Apr 2011 06:59

Lots of people take anti-anxiety medication. It's nothing to be embarassed about. Your doctor won't think anything of it. That's why we have these medications. Lots of people take them. In fact, I took one for a couple of months a few years ago when I was suffering from anxiety over a lot of changes in my life. However, if you are able to handle this without it, that's great. No one should take unnecessary medication.

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Awesomeee 13 Apr 2011 03:00

Night is the best for me usually play video games NBA 2K11 its so fun, but i dont have anxiety anymore because i know what we all know big hoax this is and these things have been around always since time began.

-Awesomeee

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No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.

Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'

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Bishh 13 Apr 2011 03:05

I've tried distractions but I find myself having absolutely no ability to concentrate on them.

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Mephistospheles 15 Apr 2011 12:04

Take a good and invigorating hobby that can be done at night as well. For instance, when I become stricken with an irrational fear I try to forget it by playing video games or playing the piano. Seriously, try to tire yourself out. But I suggest anxiety pills in the meantime. No use tearing your hair out.

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Our fears are more numerous than our dangers, and we suffer more in our imagination than in reality.

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