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Can we create a page for it because more are joining the 2012 Wagon
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Awesomeee, please backoff a bit.
Currently your actions are helping the 2012 hoaxers since you are currently spamming this site with their theories.
You might as well put a sign on your body and yell the end is near. This is scaring more people instead of calming them down.
I know that this is not our intention but I hope you realize that you are making the debunkers here very hard. We simply cannot debunk this as fast as the hoaxers invent new stuff. And the forums are now filled with pro-2012 hoaxers stories and almost no reacting from the debunking.
I was planning to put more Elenin maths here but because of your messages I cannot concentrate on the stuff that is not already debunked, because I have to debunk your 10 new messages which is already debunked 100 times.
No obae i just saw this on this site people are talking about it got me a bit confused im just asking a quastion about it
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You are flooding us with stuff that takes away from our real goals. To give quality answers.
Obae im hearing people on this site talking about this magnectic ribbon kind of stuff ,
Take you'r time no hurry
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I'm hearing people on this site talking about this magnetic ribbon kind of stuff
Then let those people ask for new pages. Awesomeee, I get the impression your starting to annoy a lot of people here, maybe you should take obaeyens advice and back off a bit
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
I have been reading every OTHER post because there are simply too many from Awesomeee, but yes, they're very annoying. I have been keeping rather quiet and trying to ignore all this stuff over the past few weeks but every day, his posts get worse. Now he is starting to rile up negative feelings that I have been able to keep at bay over the past few months! I stopped searching things that would scare me last summer and come to this site regularly for reassurance and the last thing I need or want to see is stuff that he's posting that will possibly have me wanting to start searching again! I cannot take any more anxiety over this when I've tried and worked so hard to stay steady and positive about all the 2012 BS!
Awesomeee, please stop with posting all these ridiculous things, they're very annoying and you do not listen to what anyone is telling you! And 'joking' about suicide, yeah, not funny at all!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
I have not gotten a straight answer about this … Ribbon…
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I have not gotten a straight answer about this …Ribbon
ITS BUNK!!!!
Ok?
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Why cant i get a straight answer i know its bunk but can you guys please explain me this whole crappy theory , or did you already explain it somewhere else if so link?
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this whole crappy theory
Why do you want or need an explanation of a theory that you call "crappy"? Ok, better idea, you say your a debunker yes? Why don't you try and explain it yourself? Why don't you try doing a bit of research and find the answer for yourself instead of demanding someone here does it for you.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Why cant i get a straight answer i know its bunk but can you guys please explain me this whole crappy theory , or did you already explain it somewhere else if so link?
Awesomeee, I'd like you to do a little research on the following items:
Once you've educated yourself on those subjects, return to this thread and post a comparison between what you've learned and the claims crackpots are making about the "ribbon."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_medium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Interstellar_Cloud
Ok i read it
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Ok i read it
That was only like five minutes. You really aren't interested in helping yourself, are you?
no, and in the meantime, he's pissing everyone else off!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
Awesomee, if you don't mind me asking: how old are you?
Facts are stubborn things.
- Ronald Reagan
Im 12
And exuse me guys i dont understand this whole theory i read the thing on wikipedia but i still dont understand why the hoaxers are doin this please give me a Summary of this bunk so i can understand and tell me what nutjobs are claiming and you debunking it that always helps me
Please dont troll me im asking a quastion and im really confused about it
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12?!?!?! Dude, you should be worrying about other stuff.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Are you gonna help me and explain me this magnetic ribbon nonsence
Expample:Just like you did with solar flares etc etc…
All i want you guys is too help me with this i dont understand it , Ok its bunk but i want to know why all these nutjobs are doin it
Im trying to ask a quastion but im getting A forum war 1…
Im not trying to be a troll , I dont support all these lame hoaxes I try to get answers from you guys explaining it , i guess for every new quastion i ask i get trolled :(
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Your too young for this awesomeee, I'm going to have to ask you again to see a doctor for help, a kid your age shouldn't be asking these questions.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Gary A , How many times did we talk about this and when am i going to get a NICE SUmmary about this Nonsence
When can somebody explain this to me like they explained on the pages
to my left
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Now that will help me :))))
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
We cannot help and will not help if you on purpose put yourself in a mess.
There is no point in helping you if the next thing you do is run off and do the exact same thing that scares you.
I am willing to help if you are scared because you stumbled onto something accidentally but I will not help if you did it yourself by looking for those sites on purpose.
I am not going to reward you with attention if you make yourself scared.
I will reward you with attention if you make progress and at this moment your progress would indicate to stay away from those woo sites.
No obae people here on the forums were talking about it and i got a bit confused so i wanted you guys to explain this bunk to me and how it is bunk, thats all i wanted …
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
Then first show us respect and do not threaten us like your pet dog by commanding to debunk.
We are going to debunk it when we have time or when we feel like it.
So show us respect and back off for 1 or 2 days.
How u know i have a pet dog :D
Ok obaeyens , whenevar you'r ready can you explain all this to me , thats what would help
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
Awesomeee, currently you have become a troll.
And I think we have to care about the people because this is undoing our hard work to debunk the 2012.
Your messages are now having the effect of promoting the 2012 hoax.
I hope that you back of for a couple of days out of yourself to avoid risking to lose your ability to post here.
Awesomeee, all you are doing (besides not listening to a word they are telling you) is starting to unravel the fear that i have worked really hard on putting to rest! I know you're asking for help, but the way you post and your persistence is very unnerving! These guys know what they're talking about and if what they say isn't good enough for you, stop coming back!! Continuing to post all this stuff is counteracting the entire existence of this site for some of us who still are worried. And truthfully, I was fine until you started rambling about this and that so, please stop so we can all move on! You can still rely on this site for your fears and worries without all the nonsense posts!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
Elsgeorge im not putting on no fear i dont listen to what nutjobs say im trying for you guys to answer me this quastion whenevar you guys want to answer it!
I dont understand this whole Ribbon/stellar kinda stuff and im confused about it and whenevar you guys want to answer it for me you guys can explain it to me
-awesomeee
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I don't understand it either, but if these guys say it's bunk, that's all I need to know! I didn't know about much of the proponets and whatnot when I came here and these guys helped me calm my fears! You, by bringing up all this stuff, IS PUTTING the fear back in my life because you have bombarded the forum! Now please, listen to everyone when they tell you not to worry, we are all on the same team here!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
I propose to clean up.
You've got my wote for it too=)
Facts are stubborn things.
- Ronald Reagan
MINE TOO!! Thanks Obae!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
I propose the other admins that normally cleans up stuff knows what to do. :-)
I have to get to bed right now.
Elsgeorge - I know how you are feeling, believe me. Sometimes it's like talking to a wall, stuff said just bounces off of him/her. While I certainly can agree that his/hers actions during the past days have been unnerving, too say the least, you shouldn't let that get to you. You, as well as many other frequent posters here, have come far too long in your fights against this stupid hoax to let stuff like this get to you. I mean this in the best way possible, you are to good for that=)
I'm not saying that you as well as others haven't got the right to criticise Awesomee, I'm merely pointing out that a hoax is still a hoax (no matter how twist it or portray it). Don't let stuff like this get to you (although I think that this, or Awesomee, is way out of line).
Facts are stubborn things.
- Ronald Reagan
Thanks Rickard, I appreciate that!!!
Yeah, I posted "Enough Already" above because I just couldn't take it any more! I have been coming here almost daily and reading ever since the Japan tragedies and haven't really said anything because I was feeling ok..saddened by (and accepting) everything, but not worrying like the wreck I was last summer! But reading post after post after post, my head started swimming and then my anxiety kinda reared its ugly head from all of them!
If he's truly looking for help, I'm all for it because the help that I received from everyone was truly a blessing for me…but he's going at it all wrong..12 or not, it's still unnerving and I think, unacceptable!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
He's suffering from horrific anxiety, he can deny it as much as he likes but you can't be that scared of every single thing you see and then tell me your not suffering from anxiety. He refuses to listen to anyone unless they tell him exactly what he wants to hear. I must say I'm shoked he's only 12, I really can't believe someone that young can be in this state. I wish I could help him more, I really do, but what else can we do?
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Im not suffering from anxiery i think everyone had it because of this hoax , all i asked was a quastion ….
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
No, you asked quite a few questions and accepted no one answers! Like I said before, we are all on the same team here, and we are ALL asking that you back off with this!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
No you didn't. What you have done on the other hand is completely flooded this whole forum with new topics regarding everything between heaven and earth. I have a brother that is the same age as you, and because of that it truly saddens me to see how you seem to sink deeper and deeper in to the 2012 hoax. I know that you do not intend to listen to anyone here, but for Gods sake seek help! This isn't sane behaviour. If you don't believe me then look back a year or so and see my previous posts, I think (or at least hope) that you will find them to be quite similar to yours. And you know what, i suffered (and suffer) from anxiety big time. I too used to post in the same manner as you do, and that my friend is a sure sign of mental instability. So I say this again, please talk to someone before it gets worse
Facts are stubborn things.
- Ronald Reagan
Im not suffering from anxiery
Yes you are. And the sooner you accept it and do something about it, the better.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Apparently nothing! I agree, he asks questions and never accepts any answers that anyone gives! Then he starts the whole process over again with another question/issue..it's a vicious cycle that, quite frankly, is getting old and annoying!
And I'm sorry, Awesomee, joking about suicide is not funny at all! I have lost 2 close people in my life to suicide and it's not funny!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
Awesomeee, I find it really odd that you can understand what the doomsayers are saying, and you can hunt such false information down with reckless abandon, but you can't understand some pretty layman-friendly explanations of what is wrong with those claim. But all right, I'll explain this to you one more time. However, you're going to have to stop going to places that fill your head with nonsense. I have no idea what websites you've been getting so much garbage from, but you have to stop going to them. There's going to come a point where people start to lose patience. I think a lot of us are already there.
Now, about the "ribbon"….
The IBEX survey discovered an unexpected band of what we call energetic neutral atoms way out in the solar system, and this suggests that our stellar neighborhood might interact with the interstellar medium (the region between stars) in a different way than previously thought. Within this interstellar medium, we are currently inside what is called the local interstellar cloud (the "local fluff"). We've been in this cloud for many thousands of years and will likely be in it for tens of thousands more. We're not moving into any kind of ribbon or new cloud. The ribbon is a result of our Solar System's interaction with the interstellar medium. As the Solar System moves, the ribbon moves, and it's very far away from us, at the edge of the Solar System itself. It isn't dangerous. Doomsayers just latch onto any new discovery and try to turn it into something catastrophic. Ignore them.
Thank you TheGreatJuju :)
And i did not go to no sites i just heard a discussion on the forums here wich confused me so i decided to ask whats up?
Thanks Juju for explaining all this to me :)
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
Now, please give it a rest!!! For your sake and EVERYONE else's!!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
Yeah, thanks Juju. I just went and did some reading on it and was going to try to explain it.
I think Awesomee has been beat up on enough. He is only 12 after all, and I had to work on it to try and figure out what it actually is. It would be a bit much to expect a 12 year old to understand this without a more down to Earth (no pun intended) explanation, such as the one you have given. Your explanation was helpful to me as well.
Kids tend to overdo the posting a bit. As Keanu Reeves said, "That's what little dudes do."
He is only 12 :/
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Albert Einstein
When he said he was 12 I nearly fell off my chair. All I'm trying to do personnaly is get him to see a doctor, I think that's the only thing that will help him. Some people are obviously a little frustrated (myself included) but I have to say I'm feeling a little guilty now I know he's only 12.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Im not anxious i just asked a quastion…
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
Awesomeee, if you are anxious or not, it does not matter. You need to go to a doctor and stop looking for woo sites.
That's what I think also, to me it's that simple.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
I dont look for them its the posts on these forums about the ribbons confused me atleast Juju helped me
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
I talk to my social worker all the time since i know all this is hoax , Always fails, a nice laugh with my social worker at all these hoaxes is enough for me :)
We usually like to talk about y2k and how people were crazy about it , but we love to play games the most :d
I sometimes accidentaly go to woo sites but not in this case , in this case i was confused about the ribbon discussion but i got a answer from juju , can we please be done now?
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
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I wasn't at all surprised about his age. After following these threads for a while, that's exactly the age I thought he was. I guess because I'm a lot older than the rest of the people here and I have children and grandchildren.
And that, Emmylou, is the main reason for peoples concerns: A kid that age shouldn't have to worry about this stuff, heck he shouldn't even know about it. I think most here are in agreement that he'd be better off getting some help from professionals rather than keeping this up and just adding fuel to the fire (because at this moment, that is exactly what he does). As I've said many times before, 2012hoax.org is a fantastic source for information, but if you suffer from anxiety then this site might be quite counter-productive. Even if manage to stay away from all the woo-sites out there, the claims made there will still be readilly displayed here. The best thing to do if you are in a fragile mental state due to anxiety/OCD or whatever it might be, is simply to get help for that specific matter.
You will not overcome mental disorders by just hoping that this site will work miracles, you need to seek help and actively work towards "sanity" (in lack of better words).
Facts are stubborn things.
- Ronald Reagan
I understand that kids have their own ways of handling things and asking questions and such, I have 2 daughters, but it took this long for us to know his age (and albeit, it makes sense now) but the affect that his posts have on those of us who have worked so hard are exhausting! They really are.
His age somewhat justifies the questions and the other posts, but there has to be a line or something because A). this is not healthy for him and B). this isn't helping anyone else either. It's quite frustrating and I am not trying to be mean to him. At 12, he should be worried about sports practice, playing and friends, not about ribbons and rapture :( It saddens and worries me, too!
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- Shakespeare
Yeah Juju thanks again for explaining this to me like i always say not only does this site debunk psuedo-science but it teaches , espacially kids like me , astronomy , afcourse you can always get a book :D.
So what can i do the next time im confused about something or have a quastion or want someone to debunk something for?
Thanks
-Awesomeee
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
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Just keep asking Awesomeee :)
I have learned that no matter how many questions you ask its ok :) just try and keep it down to a mimimum :) and why not try doing something to take your mind off things? read a book? go play with friends? go play football? anything that will take your mind off the worry and stress you seem to be under about everything doomsday :)
Emmy.
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Albert Einstein
And you'll keep answering his questions then?
I don't know if you've noticed but people around here are becomming tired of answering question after question, without seeing a single shred of improvement from his side. He need to stay away from woo-sites and (just as you said) focus on other things than this hoax. And above all, he needs to seek help (no kid, no matter what age, should need to worry about this crap)
Facts are stubborn things.
- Ronald Reagan
True. He needs to…
1) Go to a doctor.
2) Stop going to woo sites.
These 2 things are making him create thousands of threads every week.
I dont go too woo sites first off do you even know why i asked the quastion because i was conused about all this talk on these forums, i dont need to see a doctor i realize that all this is BS
Its a hoax psuedo-nonsence and thats what i know,
I just asked something because i was confused about it I guess you cant do that…
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
Ok now lets quit this subject period. Juju explained it to me and thats final.
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
I'm glad you understood. You were 'confused', right?
Yep.
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
I dont go too woo sites
Oh, nooo! So all these things you post here you made them up? You often visit woo sites, because you often post woo stuff here. That's the truth. I'm just saying you need to stop listening to those trolls.
do you even know why i asked the quastion because i was conused about all this
I just asked something because i was confused about it I guess you cant do that…
Got it! ¬¬
I am not tired of answering questions even if it is repetitive, but by answering the questions you are actively rewarding him to be anxious and he gets too much power over you. And it is in no way helping him, only reward him for being anxious so it becomes a habit.
The problem is that he is too young to understand the answers and I doubt that he understands anything that the TheGreatJuju explained. He only reacted on the fact that someone gave attention.
I am in no way a parent and I am in no way experienced with kids.
Obae Juju helped me alot and thats what i wanted Im not anxious i was confused about something Period.
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
The magnetic ribbon thing is a bit difficult to understand, even reading the credible reports about it. Juju's explanation helped me with it. We can't expect a 12 year old to understand it.
I didn't see any problem with Awesome asking that question, and was about to try tackling it on my own since he wasn't getting an answer. I know it's aggravating when kids just keep repeating themselves when what they want doesn't come fast enough, but in this case, he deserved an answer and wasn't getting one. It was a valid question, not just searching something out and saying "debunk this."
Awesomeee, don't you think you should stop worrying about this stuff for a week or two? Just give your head a break, your at a very young age and it's not healthy for you to be looking at things about doomsday. There's no rapture or doomsday, you will live for many many years. Just take that advice and try and put this nonsense out of your head for a little while.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Man, I leave to go to the store and come back to this long drawn out fiasco. Thanks for the simple and good explanation JuJu. If you have any questions about things Awesomeee use your account to message me and I'll try to answer your questions ASAP, and if I need help with it I'll ask in the forum.
“In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane.” - Oscar Wilde
Thanks diesel since i dont belive any of this bs, i jsut like hanging out on this site… i do hang out with freinds all the time we laugh at the hoax all the time
No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.
Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'
