I can't get this out of my head :(

Summary:

I'm freaking out even after convincing myself. I guess I didn't convince myself completly. I NEED MORE FACTS

I can't get this out of my head :(

Jack (guest) 15 May 2011 16:03

I would appreciate a response as soon as you could. I don't really believe in this doomsday prophecy and your site has done a good job of keeping my opnion that way. Yet I still have this immense fear about the whole 2012 theory. I can't concentrate. Everyday I seem to convince myself that this is a hoax and there is nothing to fear, but every morning I wake up with the same feeling of dread. I don't think a planet will crash into us or every natural disaster will occur, but the feeling of "what if?" will not leave my mind. I'm scared of this website being wrong, even though I agree with what I've read and most of the people arguing against you seem crazy. Even though I seem to agree with you I keep questioning everything and I'm still living in fear. I have no appetite, and this has been the only thing I've thought about for almost a week now.

My main concerns started with Japan's earthquake and tsunami, and now tornadoes ripped through the southern united states.

If you could please acknowledge these concerns and give me advice I would appreciate it more than you'll ever know. I NEED FACTS!!!

Thank you,

Sincerely,
Jack

Re: I can't get this out of my head :(

Tomy2011 15 May 2011 16:16

You don't need to create two threads with the same title. We understand.

Yet I still have this immense fear about the whole 2012 theory. I can't concentrate. Everyday I seem to convince myself that this is a hoax and there is nothing to fear, but every morning I wake up with the same feeling of dread. I don't think a planet will crash into us or every natural disaster will occur, but the feeling of "what if?" will not leave my mind.

The what if is the most common problem here, and I'm afraid that I've no solution for this. I really want to help, but here we do a scientific help, with scientific facts about 2012. We don't have psychologists here (UndeadxNurse is, I think, but this user is not here right now) at the moment, but we do have a page on "Dealing with Fears" and other pages about detecting BS etc…
Try laughing at the claims and you'll feel better. Read this site more and understand that there is nothing to fear.
I wish you luck, Jack.

Re: I can't get this out of my head :(

TheGreatJuju 15 May 2011 18:01

It is a fact that earthquakes happen frequently along the Ring of Fire. When they happen underwater, they can create tsunamis. The quake in Japan was monstrous, but it wasn't the worst of all time, and it was the tsunami (not the quake itself) that did most of the damage. We expect an average of 1 magnitude 8.0+ quake per year, which means we will occasionally have more than one (such as in 2007, when we had 4), and sometimes we won't have any (such as in 2008). It just happens. It's tragic, yes, but it isn't unusual.

It is also a fact that the southern United States is tornado-prone this time of year. It happens every spring. Warm air from the Gulf of Mexico collides with cold air from the northern latitudes, and the result is thunderstorms, which can rotate, and rotation can produce tornadoes. It's a consequence of living here, one I've dealt with for as long as I can remember (I'm in Arkansas).

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snorks (guest) 15 May 2011 16:37

Here is a nice article in Salon.com that explains our fascination with doomsday, and lists the history in the U.S. of how people reacted to this.

The end of the world is here … again Doomsday prophets are nothing new in America
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/05/15/may_21_end_of_world/index.html

America has seen many such prophecies of imminent divine judgment. Traditionally, Christianity has been divided between so-called postmillennialists, who believe that Christ will return again after an earthly golden age, and premillennialists, who say that the world would end when Jesus returned and separated the saints from the sinners. Camping’s sect is rooted in a strong premillennial current that reaches back to the 1840s, when tens of thousands of American were whipped to a furious excitement by the prophecies of the Vermont Baptist minister William Miller (1782-1849).

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Over the years, Adventists have arrived at different dates for the Judgment Day: 1847, 1850, 1852, 1854, 1855, 1863, 1867, 1877 and many more since.

The Adventists were hardly alone in their prediction of world destruction. The year 1881 was a special focus of anticipation because of a prophecy by the 16th-century British psychic Mother Shipton (née Ursula Sontheil), who had written a poem that included the lines, "The world to an end shall come/ In eighteen hundred and eighty one." A number of unusual natural phenomena in 1881 — a meteorite, violent windstorms and large earthquakes — convinced Mother Shipton’s followers that the end indeed had arrived.

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As you can see from the excerpts that this is standard practise for predictions.

obaeyens 15 May 2011 20:44

We might want to create a list where people can choose what his excuse will be on the 22th when nothing happened.

My top 3 would be
1. I misread the numbers, here is a new date.
2. Our prayer was heard and we have been saved, the apocalypse is postponed to this new date.
3. Look at that 4.5 magnitude Earth quake down at <name a tiny village in a remote location> as sign that the apocalypse just passed. All humanity has been spared for another 6 months. Give us more money!

If an apocalypse would be happening, I would expect it to be awwwwsooommeee….. or else I want my money back.

Tomy2011 15 May 2011 20:51

More excuses:

4. Maya fault. They created that stupid calendar. Actually, it ends on… let me think… 31 December, 2012.
5. Quetzalcoatl decided that the date was moved to tomorrow. Be ready and buy my new book: "22 December, 2012. The end".

Lakin (guest) 16 May 2011 21:22

you sound like you have the same problem I did. The what if game. Well to get that out of my head I think okay why am i worrying about what may happen? Whya am i worrying about something I know is fake? You don't wake up everyday and worry about falling out of bed or hitting your head. It could happen ,but why worry about it. It also helps to stay away from all things 2012 for awhile I did, and I check on here every so often to help my friends. Hope you can get passed this fear.

Erik (guest) 17 May 2011 01:17

I agree with Lakin, Im not yet at the stage were I can venture away from these things. I am getting there though!

obaeyens 18 May 2011 20:33

Lakin, a question, can you tell us what helps and what does not help on this site?

Jack (guest) 18 May 2011 20:25

Patrick Geryl is the one who sparked these fears in me. On his website it says the the Maya have predicted sun spots with the Dresden codex and so far they have been spot on. Can anyone refute this claim that the Dresden codex predicts solar activity and that so far it has been completely right?

Nighthawk (guest) 18 May 2011 20:29

I don't think he was spot on?? He screwed up on April 19th or something like that.

Nighthawk (guest) 18 May 2011 20:31

Search April 19th up top on the search bar and go to forum only. Click april 19th geryl alert and you'll find out he was wrong

(ignore the troll)

TheGreatJuju 18 May 2011 23:14

The Dresden Codex predicts no such thing.

http://www.famsi.org/mayawriting/codices/dresden.html

Geryl has no more predicted any sunspots via the codex than I predict that it will rain somewhere on Earth next week. Even if we grant that he has had some lucky guesses, he's missed so many major events that his credibility is effectively zero. He's just throwing darts at a calendar.

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