6000 Year God's Plan and New Harold Camping's prediction.

6000 Year God's Plan and New Harold Camping's prediction.

LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 18:13

i heard God has a 6000-year plan and at the end of this plan the world is destroyed! is this true?? should i believe it?? what does the Bible say about this plan?
another thing. H.C. claimd that the end will be destroyed by fire and people killed by the fire i know Camping was wrong saturday but maybe the rapture did happen with no apparent signs and just some people accended to heaven. i.e. forgiven.
as i know you are too harsh here i dont expect sweet replies from you all, but i do want answers. What if Camping is right about the fire in October but wrong about the rapture??

thank you in advance.

Mememe (guest) 23 May 2011 18:20

Camping made a prediction about worlds end before, in 1994, which too failed. Two wrongs, doesnt make one right.

I am not one to judge whether God exists or not, i do believe there's a god, but i do not believe in religion. Therefore the bible is nothing more to me, then harry potter is for most people: Just a good book.
The bible does predict worlds end, but with that said not when, therefore most Cristian people, do not believe in most predictions made today, because as stated in the bible: "No man knows the hour, nor the date.".
The bible also warn you against false prophesies. It keeps stating, that false prophets will rise, but you should not follow these. So if you're a Cristian, who believes in the bible, in you should be able to laugh at these prophets, and enjoy your life.

I really hope this cleared some things for you. H.C is a fraud, and will always be. Even he was surprised, in an interview i saw, when he was asked why nothing happened.

Haustier 23 May 2011 18:20

And once again my stupid PC logged me out, my post above.

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LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 19:24

"Two wrongs, doesnt make one right."

Two wrongs, doesnt make one wrong too. :(

Haustier 23 May 2011 19:38

You did not read my whole comment.

The bible warns against false prophet, H.C failed twice to predict worlds end, wouldnt you call that a false prophet?
If i was god, i would be ashamed to have people like Harold walk around on my earth. He is only after money, nothing more.

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Gary A 23 May 2011 19:42

Two wrongs, doesnt make one wrong too. :(

No it doesn't, it makes TWO WRONGS!!!

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Re: 6000 Year God's Plan and New Harold Camping's prediction.

Astrogeek 23 May 2011 18:27

Hi LittleScared;

Camping's two dates are based on the same numerology, and not on anything in Christian scripture. Therefore, if he was wrong about May 21st, he is also wrong about the October date.

I'm not sure how the 'rapture' can occur 'with no apparent signs', especially based on Camping's predictions. Also, you should know that the Rapture is a modern invention, and does not appear in Christian theology before the late 19th century, and did not gain popularity until the mid 20th century (especially with the LaHay 'Left Behind' series of novels).

Here's my final word on the topic:

Camping was wrong. He was wrong in 1994, he was wrong in May 2011, and he is wrong about October 2011 as well. If you are a Christian then you should read up on what the Bible says about "false prophets", especially how to distinguish a false prophet from the real deal.

I would prefer to keep religious discussion off of the forums, so if you want to continue this conversation please use the contact form under the 'Contact/Comment' menu at the top. Select 'Contact Site Admin' and fill out the form with a valid email address, and I'll respond to you.

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LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 19:22

"Camping was wrong. He was wrong in 1994, he was wrong in May 2011, and he is wrong about October 2011 as well. If you are a Christian then you should read up on what the Bible says about "false prophets", especially how to distinguish a false prophet from the real deal."

How do u know H.C. is a false prophet and not a "real deal"? He has another doomprediction now for October so he can not be a false prophet if he is right about October!!!
Is the October prediction based on the May prediction?

Gary A 23 May 2011 19:28

How do u know H.C. is a false prophet and not a "real deal"?

Because he's failed twice now! Are you serious?

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Awesomeee 23 May 2011 19:30

Hey does anybody remember when i was worried about the non existing 6000 year plan

Good thing i know thats its false now , See what i wrote i like tottally know its BS :)

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Astrogeek 23 May 2011 19:34

Well the answer is plain: If someone says that "x" will happen on a specific date, and the specific date passes without "x" happening, then he was wrong.

From a secular standpoint I would conclude that Camping has a history of failed predictions, so there is no reason to think that his October prediction will occur.

From a religious standpoint I would look at the same record of failed predictions, and say that he fits the Biblical description of a 'false prophet' who 'should not be feared'.

In other words, Camping is wrong. Camping has been wrong every time he opens his mouth and spouts that the end of the world will occur on such-and-such a date. He was very obviously wrong about May 21st, despite his proclamations that "The Bible Guarantees It", and that he was 100% sure, and since the October date was linked to the same prediction, then the October date is wrong as well.

The October date is not another prediction, it was part of the May 21st prediction. Since he was wrong about May 21st, he is also wrong about October.

As far as a 6,000 year plan, I respond that people who claim to know the mind of God are almost always wrong.

Furthermore, I'll suggest that your fears are not based on rational ideas, but rather have become self-sustaining, in other words, a phobia.

You will not get over this phobia by simply hearing that your fears are incorrect, you need to seek professional help for this.

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Awesomeee 23 May 2011 19:36

Sorry , for reminding everybody hear again but please read my respond , I think youl than know its all BS Littlescared

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Re: 6000 Year God's Plan and New Harold Camping's prediction.

Gary A 23 May 2011 18:34

i heard God has a 6000-year plan and at the end of this plan the world is destroyed! is this true?? should i believe it??

No.

H.C. claimd

Ok seriously, what does this man have to do to be completely discredited?

maybe the rapture did happen with no apparent signs and just some people accended to heaven. i.e. forgiven.

Uh huh, that's kind of insane don't you think? So the guy who promoted this silly idea based on his and his followers interpretation of the bible are left behind while some random guy clueless to the whole thing suddenly starts flying up to heaven. Really?

as i know you are too harsh here i dont expect sweet replies from you all, but i do want answers.

I don't think anyone is "too harsh", maybe with idiots who troll or blatantly lie, or someone who brings up dead topics.

What if Camping is right about the fire in October but wrong about the rapture??

Again that's just silly, you can't have one without the other, it's like trying to grow a plant without any seeds.
It's not my place to say what belongs here and what doesn't, but personnaly I'm completely and utterly fed up with psudo-religious garbage accompanying the nonsense spouted by people promoting a 2012 doomsday. Forget Harold camping, he's failed, just try not to go seeking another reason to fear your religion. Please.

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Re: 6000 Year God's Plan and New Harold Camping's prediction.

Tomy2011 23 May 2011 19:09

i heard God has a 6000-year plan and at the end of this plan the world is destroyed! is this true?? should i believe it?? what does the Bible say about this plan?

The humanity exists has a long time. The first humans lived about 250,000 ago. That means that the world ended… 41 times. :-) This plan only works if you believe in the creationism (by the way, many christians don't believe in the creationism), that says the world was created in 4,000 BC or 5,500 BC, the most accepted dates. Other dates have been given, however.
The Bible does mention the 6,000 years plan, but you know how Bible is. If you take it literally, you will commit many mistakes, like Harold Camping. The dates set according to the end of this plan are different. Some said the end was in 2007, other people say it will end in 2018, etc… And after so many dates set for the end that have been wrong, all the 220, I would not care about this. This is not the true religious belief. This is a fundamentalist belief, that goes far beyond from the good sense.
The doomsayers got me tired.

as i know you are too harsh here i dont expect sweet replies from you all, but i do want answers.

If you are only worried, it's ok!

Re: 6000 Year God's Plan and New Harold Camping's prediction.

Awesomeee 23 May 2011 19:21

Hello ive came across this before and I was expecting camping to use it first off the 6000 year plan is not in the bible , people fit crackpot ideas of the bible just like in may 21 the first mistake they make is a common one

They think that to god a day is exactly a thousand years ,

Afcourse if you went to writing class you would know what a similay is and what it actully says in the bible is this

To God A Day is *Like* A thousand years

This means that god is outside of time he rules time , this does not mean that 2 god a day is a thousand years it means that god rules time

Anyways this proves that the 6000 year plan and remember that human king have been here for longer then 6000 years

-Awesomeee

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Hippo (guest) 23 May 2011 21:18

"but maybe the rapture did happen with no apparent signs "

Okay, how can this be? So now people are assuming that the raptor DID happen? Now I've heard everything…

LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 19:18

Is it truth 2018 this plan ENDS?! I wana know what the Bible says i'm WORRIED about everything. The claims for both October (Camping), 2012 and 2018 are terrible 2012 is so popular!!
Now i wantto know if there IS some truth in this 2018 end of 6000-year plan! Please, this worries me.

LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 19:19

And thanks for the first answers!! :) But im still worried.

Awesomeee 23 May 2011 19:27

Littlescared If somebody says something will heppan and it does not heppan he is a false prophet thats what the bible says and camping has been wrong all the time Ok , and god says not to listen to those people

And i already gave u the answer for you'r 6000 year plan , wich is not real

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Awesomeee 23 May 2011 19:25

Littlescared i gave u the answer read it please

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Astrogeek 23 May 2011 19:36

Just because a date is 'popular' doesn't make it right.

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LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 19:45

ok but its so scary! even if it is not true it worries me!!! i even saw a site and in a page i saw an article with the author claiming he had dreams with destruction in 2018. He cant dream with 2020 everytime he tries to he sees nothingness.
And it matches with the 6000 year plan !

Nighthawk (guest) 23 May 2011 20:31

Your '6,000' year plan was supposed to happen in 2007, but what happened? NOTHING. So they moved it up, like Camping in '94 to '11. They get this six/seven thousand years from the Book of Genesis which most believe is not to be taken literally like Camping does. I for sure believe in the Bible, and i for sure do NOT believe in the so many year plan. These things are all lies.

LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 19:42

Awesomeee said the 6000 year plan is fake but look what i found in wikipedia.

From 1517 the Protestant Reformation brought a new emphasis on lay literacy, with Martin Luther advocating the idea that creation took six literal days about 6000 years ago, and claiming that "Moses wrote that uneducated men might have clear accounts of creation", though a German peasant listening to a translation would have different perceptions from a Jew familiar with early Jewish language and culture, and Luther still had to refer to allegorical understandings such as the meaning of the serpent.

See??? 6000 years! And it was Martin Luther who said this so isnt this true???

Awesomeee 23 May 2011 19:47

Martin Luther said that the creation took six days , He is correct as that was in the bible but who said it would last 6000 Years look the whole 6000 is a mis understanding i have explained it to you, And why are you scared of jesus hel come back someday but we dont know when he will

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Awesomeee 23 May 2011 19:54

Bottom Line Is earth is older than 6000 years 6000 years in not mentioned in the bible the only thing it mentions is that god rules time wich i have explained.

if you understood what i said you should not worry :)

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Gary A 23 May 2011 19:58

See??? 6000 years! And it was Martin Luther who said this so isnt this true???

Why? Is he known for very accurate prophecies? If you believe earth was created 6000 years ago I doubt anyone here can help you. I echo astrogeek, get professional help.

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Awesomeee 23 May 2011 20:00

Yep Gary A and still people think that the bible says the earth is 6000 years old I guess if people dont know that the word *Like* Is theyl be on my idiot list :/

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Nighthawk (guest) 23 May 2011 20:33

Martin Luther was a protestant reformer, He had 95 things wrong with the Church at that time he thought. That is his own personal opinion which other denominations follow.

LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 20:03

See my post please above:

http://www.2012hoax.org/forum/t-362825/6000-year-god-s-plan-and-new-harold-camping-s-prediction#post-1160218

If the 6000 year plan is fake so who created it???

Awesomeee 23 May 2011 20:06

I have first heard of this nonsense from a guy named David c pack , who is also a guy who is well crazy , and was discussed here on the forums but No h.c is not the maker of this , when his prediction failed I knew that he would pick up any other nonsence if he made another prediction

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LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 20:10

Did u read my post on the Link???
Pls…

Gary A 23 May 2011 20:17

So someone thinks the world was created 6000 years ago in 6 days. All I can tell you is that the whole idea of that is nonsensical. I don't know what else to tell you.

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RickardM 23 May 2011 20:18

Did you read Astrogeeks response saying that he did NOT whish to see a continues religious discussion on this forum? Can you grasp the concept?

Harold Camping is the 21st centuries biggest fraud as of today, so why do you listen to one single thing he has to said? Is it because you survived the world-wide earthquake of May 21 that camping so long predicted? Wait now… It didn't happen?

Then maybe, just maybe, nothing else of what he said is true? Just as Astrogeek said, the two dates he said (May and October ones) is in direct correlation to one another. If the first one didn't happen then the second one CAN'T happen. Simple as that.

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Awesomeee 23 May 2011 20:21

Yes Please if i heard right Astro is gonna make a harold camping forum page right?

But for now Littlescared I gave you the response the 6000 year plan is false thats it if you want evidence I gave it to you read y posts

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LittleScared (guest) 23 May 2011 20:23

Who made up this 6000 year plan??? i just want to know this. Is this thing in the Bible??? what if it does happen in 2018???

Awesomeee 23 May 2011 20:25

What if May 21st 2011 really is the end , Please dont do What Ifs theyre nonsence

And there is no 6000 year plan little scared I already told you and explained and im not quite sure who made it all up Me and and the gang will try to find out Ok?

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Gary A 23 May 2011 20:28

Who made up this 6000 year plan??? i just want to know this. Is this thing in the Bible??? what if it does happen in 2018???

It won't happen, it's not in the bible and if it's false then who cares who made it up? You have been asked nicely to quit with this religious nonsense, you aren't listening. This is off topic, it has nothing to do with 2012 and your getting nowhere with what we tell you. Religion doesn't belong here, take it elsewhere.

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Tomy2011 23 May 2011 20:44

Ok, that's it. LittleScared, let me say something. This is just a logical analysis of the 6,000 years plan and Harold Camping's rapture, and it's valid for all the raptures and ends. These two things you are scared of are based on 1 out of thousands of religions in the world.

The question is: What religion is right about the end of the world, if there is one?

I am not discussing religion, ok? ;-) Just leaving a question to LittleScared.

One more thing. The supposed end of the world regarding the 6,000 years plan was supposed to happen in 2007 or 2004. There are other dates too.
As I said, they are fundamentalists who take everything in the Bible literally. It's wrong.

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Awesomeee 23 May 2011 20:47

Dum Dum please dont say MAYANS Because we debunked that

Anyways please stop worrying about this There is no 6000 year plan , God Loves people , and tells you to enjoy you'r life and that no man knows the day nor the hour

*Goes Flying A Kite*

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Re: 6000 Year God's Plan and New Harold Camping's prediction.

Astrogeek 23 May 2011 22:15

moved to 'Off Topic'

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Hippo (guest) 23 May 2011 22:29

So, now there's a prediction for 2018? Jeez, I was hoping that after 2012, you guys get to rest.Now, you'll have probably have to create a website debunking 2018 once 2012 passes so that way you can ease the minds of the scared people once again.