The story of planet x and nibiru

The story of planet x and nibiru

AnxiousFear (guest) 25 May 2011 13:47

Hi can I summarize and confirm the follow.

Planet x aka nibiru is 'discovered' and claimed by Zecharia correct?

And this planet x will only make it's way to earth like 2900 or few decades earlier?

The phenomenon of planet x nibiru that will cross earth's orbit in 2012 or 2013 is a prediction made by nancy thereafter and Zecharia never did any prediction of it coming in 2012 or 2013 correct?

Just wanna clear my thoughts on it.

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3WMElliott 25 May 2011 14:15

You could argue it was Velikovsky that started the idea (he said Venus came from Jupiter and that it's close pass to Earth was recorded in ancient human cultures), but yes Sitchin appears to have kick started the most common ideas for it, though it seems it took a few decades before anybody bothered using his work.

Nancy Lieder originally said 2003, and of course with absolutely nothing happening the excuse was that she was lying to 'fool the establishment'. I think she's onto the 2012 bandwagon, but to my recollection she'll say everything about the event but a definitive date, so I wouldn't be surprised if after 2012 she continues.

Sitchin I don't think explicitly changed his dates, nor distanced himself from the current trends, but yeah, you don't find 2012 in his books.

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Astrogeek 25 May 2011 23:03

close.

Sitchin claimed that the Sumerians recorded previous passes of Nibiru. He stated that this (fictional) planet was on a 3,600 year orbit that brought it into the inner solar system, and that the next pass would be in 2,900, but that the Annunaki would be returning (via spaceship) in 2090.

Lieder claimed that her Planet X was Sitchin's 12th planet, but that it was returning in 2003. When her date came and went, she then claimed that the 'Zetas' had 'laid a trap for the establishment' by promoting the wrong date, and that it would return in 2006. When the 2006 date came, she claimed it had arrived, but was hidden, either behind the sun, or by clouds of magnetic dust, or something-or-other.

The whole Nibiru/Planet-X belief system was then co-opted by the 2012ers, who claim that this impossible and undetected planet will be responsible for the 2012 doomsday.

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AnxiousFear (guest) 26 May 2011 16:57

Hi Astro and all, thanks for the replies.

yeah i read somewhere that he claimed this planet will cross earth somewhere in 2900 and the slightly earlier for the spaceships to visit 1st.

Just wondering what makes nancy jumped into Zecharia's theory and make it her own, and jumped into the 2012's now.

So to summarise, 2012 is a supposed 'alignment' yr and makes the Earth go wacky, only the collision of planet x is later put into the story by nancy to make it a sum up of the 2012 even worse, i think i can round it up this way?

=)

Alene Y 27 May 2011 03:03

Hi Anxious,
Nancy started out with Planet X for her previous failed doomsdays. After her earlier dates passed without incident, she needed a new date and something to jazz it up a bit. She adopted the Mayan Calendar date and Sitchen's Nibiru so she had a whole new doomsday hoax to carry on with.

Re: The story of planet x and nibiru

Suncrush 25 May 2011 14:19

I've not read which ever source it is that mentions the "real" time of Nibiru's arrival, but other's who have read it say that Nancy Lieder's prediction is many years off.

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3WMElliott 25 May 2011 14:34

It might as well be an infinite amount of time off, Nibiru as written by these people doesn't exist.

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Tomy2011 25 May 2011 15:55

this planet x will only make it's way to earth like 2900 or few decades earlier?

Yes, but Lieder wanted to change the dates, because everybody was talking about the Maya and 2012. So, why not reschedule the arrival?
Since it was rescheduled, it's just a lie… trollish.

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Trista1988 03 Jun 2011 03:33

So, are Nancy Lieders "Zetas" the same as the Annunaki, or did she completely change Sitchens view to fit what she wanted it to fit? It just kills me that I could ever believe her preposterous views.

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Re: The story of planet x and nibiru

Alene Y 03 Jun 2011 06:16

No. Her "Zetas" are supposed to be from a planet in the Zeta Reticuli system. They are supposedly warning her about the Annunaki coming back to make us mine gold for them. She hijacked Sitchen's fake planet after her fake Planet X failed to appear on schedule for her previous dates.

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Astrogeek 03 Jun 2011 06:26

Did she only associate her Planet X with Sitchin's Nibiru after 2003? I thought she co-opted Nibiru before that…

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Re: The story of planet x and nibiru

Alene Y 03 Jun 2011 06:33

Well, I was pretty sure she was still using Planet X for 2003. I'll have to check that.

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Alene Y 03 Jun 2011 06:44

In this article by Phil Plait, apparently written in 2002, there is no mention of Nibiru. He just says that she claims a large planet is coming by in May 2003 and will flip Earth on its axis, killing 90% of the population.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/lieder.html

Re: The story of planet x and nibiru

Alene Y 03 Jun 2011 07:10

In her Zetatalk page written February 15, 1996, She says that Planet X and the 12th planet are one and the same. I don't see where she ever uses the name Nibiru or Sitchen's book title, The Twelfth Planet. If the reference is to Sitchen's twelfth planet, that would indicate that she was already using it before her 2003 doomsday. I don't know why she isn't calling it Nibiru, though, if that's what she is referring to. Maybe she just never used the name Nibiru until after May 2003.

http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s58.htm

I hadn't seen your earlier post talking about this. I didn't mean to contradict you. I just hadn't read all the posts above. Anyway, you were right that she was saying it was the 12th planet. I just don't know yet if she ever called it Nibiru at that time.

Edit: On her Zetatalk Pole Shift Date of May 27 2003 page, she still isn't using the name Nibiru. She refers to it only as Planet X.

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Re: The story of planet x and nibiru

Trista1988 03 Jun 2011 18:16

This forum posting gave me my biggest "ah-ha" moment I've ever had. Thanks for all your posting everyone. I think I am finally over all the lingering anxieties!!

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Alene Y 03 Jun 2011 19:17

That's really good to hear, Trista.

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Tomy2011 03 Jun 2011 18:22

Yeah, I guess Lieder uses the name "Planet X" more than "Nibiru". You won't see her saying "Nibiru" very frequently, though it is the most used name.

valdir (guest) 03 Jun 2011 18:39

It is not my intention to provide any news related to the Nibiru or Elenin, but for those like me that followed the "The Event", (sadly cancelled by NBC), I found this article that makes a very good relation between the series and the Hoaxes, showing where they find inspiration to create their movies, or be it, our fear.

valdir (guest) 03 Jun 2011 18:39

I forgot the link:
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-honolulu/the-event-and-comet-elenin

Tomy2011 03 Jun 2011 18:56

For some researchers, Elenin's seismic influence on Earth is a sign that it is Nibiru.

Well, if Elenin is Nibiru, so the claims get even easier to debunk. We all know Comet Elenin is small and has no influences on Earth seismic activity. Then, Nibiru has no influence on the Earth as well. See how easy it gets? :-D
Perfect. So we don't have to waste our time with a false planet, if Elenin was Nibiru all this time…

But they can be wrong, wrong, wrong…

valdir (guest) 03 Jun 2011 19:01

"For some researchers", not Scientists, that's the reason they can be wrong, after all I was talking about fiction not reality.