Frightened day and nights

Frightened day and nights

Daphne (guest) 26 May 2011 22:56

I have been reading for a period of time now, while it is good to know that there is a place here which provides a certain peace of mind but I am still getting frightened day and night for a long time now.

I am a 14yr old student, day after day there are more and more claims of the end of the world, people like dd805 has also posted alot of things that made me frightened. I cannot eat well or sleep well at all, and I have problems concentrating in school.

I told mummy and she said not to worry and concentrate on my daily life but I just can't do it.

Is there really a planet x or a dwarf star like what tenchu posted in previous threads that we are all following the wrong direction of NASA and it will be reported soon?

Are we going to die when this planet x can be only found hiding better the sun one mth before it collides?

Is the day dec 2011 or dec 2012 going to happen and we all will die?

Is comet really a fake and is actually a conspiracy that we will die from it?

The YouTube videos and all the very professional science and data in some of them really frightens me alot, I sometimes think how is it that they bother to do so much research just to false claims or it isn't false claims at all and there is some truth to it.

I am really very tire from all these scares bit I just can't stop it from scaring me further. I cry and cry every night to sleep. Everytime I see a blinking light in the sky I hide under my blanket crying, I dont want to die yet I love my school friends my dad and mum I love them.

Daph

lolny233 (guest) 26 May 2011 23:06

me too espacially what dd wrote:

The 1st 1 what he wroteee scared me badly plzzz debunk evry of this plzzz

Last edited on 28 May 2011 04:39 by Alene Y Show more

Nighthawk (guest) 26 May 2011 23:14

Hmm…Smell that? SMELLS LIKE BS. I only read from 24 down and Laughed my butt off. I'll let someone else answer sorry

Daphne (guest) 26 May 2011 23:16

U are making me even frightened!

Crys…

Nighthawk (guest) 26 May 2011 23:21

See! That's it! your sucked right back into the woo phenomenon. I know it's hard but come on, #29, don't tell me that didn't make you laugh. Of course there are new shows and movies because they make a crapload of money from it, it's big business. Just ignore him, he's scared and looking at woo sites also.

Alene Y 28 May 2011 04:38

Don't let that list scare you, Daphne. He was just telling what one of the resident doomsayer trolls posted. It is all nonsense.

As for being afraid of Comet Elenin, there is absolutely nothing to fear. It's a tiny comet (about 3 km in diameter) and its closest approach is going to be about 34 million kilometers (about 23 million miles) away. Our Moon has a diameter of 3476 km and its closest distance is about 356 thousand km. So the Moon is about a thousand times greater in diameter and is about 95 times closer to us. Have you noticed all the death and destruction caused by the Moon? Me neither. This little comet will have no effect on us whatsoever.

3WMElliott 27 May 2011 00:07

me too espacially what dd wrote:

DD805 was it? Everything in this list has been done and dusted and written up as nonsense. I'll go through it briefly, once and hope we don't spring off into a tangent (that it to say, don't reply unless absolutely necessary, for further details for example, and even then a new thread might be the better option).

1: Conspiracy theory nonsense. NASA aren't the only people to have Elenin data and none of them have arrived at an approach of 0.004
2: You can make a backronym out of anything, we could even come up with one for lolny, it wouldn't change the object from being a boring old comet.
3: Obaeyens, member of this very forum, has imaged it multiple times. You'll have to ask him where he got the coordinates from, I'd hazard a guess at it being from a source closer to NASA than a source closer to an unnamed Japanese scientist.
4: Alignments of any object do not cause Earthquakes.
5: No it isn't, neither in distances or time.
6: Wikipedia have policies regarding who is 'important enough' for an article. I'm sure Leonid himself would argue he isn't important enough, if of course an article was created in the first place.
7: Anyone can predict an Earthquake, you just need to be careful about the details, details which 9nania most likely got wrong and whose followers most likely forgot about in order to proclaim him as important enough to listen to.
8: Piers Corbyn doesn't exactly have a good record regarding prediction, and is a dubious character otherwise. Colour me skeptical of everything that comes from his mouth.
9: Considering it was found inside our solar system to begin with, this is nonsense.
10: No, they aren't. They might seem like it, check the records though and it's same old Earth.
11: USGS have an open policy of which earthquakes they report on. If a quake is large enough or significant enough with regards to human impact, it's kept on show. Anything else is run of the mill, boring old Earth, confined to the archives.
12: Google's search algorithms don't work like that.
13: Our posts sure didn't.
14: The 'hole' worked out to be 4% of the entire magnetosphere and was found three years ago. Last time I checked, we're still here. In fact last time I checked, holes weren't uncommon either.
15: As long as the definition of imminent is anywhere from 'tomorrow' to 'hundreds of years in the future', sure, it might as well be a certainty of happening at some point.
16: A 50% discount on something you don't need still results in you wasting your cash…
17: I don't know about you, but I'd expect the likes of FEMA to be prepared for any event. If they aren't prepared, how can they do their job?
18: By the same token, I'd expect them to prepare for Earthquakes in places where we expect Earthquakes to hit, otherwise they aren't doing their job. It's like firefighting, you'd expect them to practice putting out fires and learning what to do in a certain situation, you wouldn't expect them to slide down the pole for hours on end until a call came out, then just dump water onto the fire.
19: Except that we do not pass through Elenin's tail, and we do pass through 100 tons of debris on a daily basis, with no cause for concern.
20: The Earth's heart beat. Do you really need that debunking?
21: Sure isn't fixed in my version, but at least we finally agree nothing is there. Nothing ever was there, and we've known that for decades.
22: Because - believe it or not - it's not really interesting.
23: Alignments aren't important or arguably interesting, whether they occur this year or next.
24: NASA have said no such thing, and if they have it sure wouldn't have been talking about Comet Elenin
25: There is no correlation between solar flares and Earthquakes, regardless of size or magnitude.
26: Sink holes are insanely common in the first place. A little knowledge of geology and you'll be aware just how likely they are.
27: Magnetic poles always move and continue to do so.
28: And what about all the things in the movie that were wildly different from today? Are they to be ignored because they don't fit with the conspiracy theory? Movies are movies, some of them based on life, some of them based on ideas. Deep Impact was an idea.
29: Number of reality TV shows, number of talent shows… people watch an awful lot of rubbish, the more one type of show gets watched, the more copycat shows get made until the next big hit comes along.
30: UFO means unidentified. It has nothing to do with aliens until you identify them, where upon you'll become famous for identifying the first verifiable extraterrestrial to visit Earth. Seeing as nobody has done such a thing, they'll continue to be unidentified, the number of them is irrelevant.
31: The Hopi might have said a blue star is the end, but the people attributing Elenin to this are not Hopi, they are doomsayers desperately trying to justify their beliefs, all the while ignoring the facts.

Like I said, I hope this doesn't become a thread about these nonsense claims and continues to be a thread about helping out Daphne and others. If you want specifics, search the forums for relevant threads and post in them, or start a new thread yourself.

lolny233 (guest) 27 May 2011 00:13

Thank you elliot

obaeyens 29 May 2011 01:44

3: Obaeyens, member of this very forum, has imaged it multiple times. You'll have to ask him where he got the coordinates from,

Any stellar program would do. I guess the free Stellaium would also be able to give the coordinates.
Mine come form Starry Night.

Just start Starry Night, put in your coordinates where you live, choose the date and time you want to check and look up Elenin. Go to the info page about Elenin in Starry Night and you get all the coordinates and distances.

All you have to do is point a good set up telescope to these locations and take a long duration snapshot. It is that easy.

Alene Y 28 May 2011 04:41

lolny233,
There was no need to repost all the BS that DD posted. I edited your post to delete his nonsense.

Timmy (guest) 26 May 2011 23:10

Listen to your Mom, she's right! Tenchu and them are trolls who are lost in conspiracies trying to scare people like you. I can assure you there claims there baseless and every true scientist dismisses them. The one's who approve them got their degree online, in stupidity. There is no truth in it just keep telling yourself that and look for yourself. People think they are dumber than they actually are, you seem like a smart 14 yr old girl, go out and search for yourself. Look at the trajectory on websites like here, Astrogeek will show/tell you the trajectory. If you search Obayeans tracks the Comet daily and knows for a fact that it won't hit us. Just look at the bigger picture and don't get sucked into the woo sites and such

Daphne (guest) 26 May 2011 23:18

There are so many many many such sites and videos going around I scare really very scare it's taking my life and school away.

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3WMElliott 26 May 2011 23:16

I cannot eat well or sleep well at all, and I have problems concentrating in school. I told mummy and she said not to worry and concentrate on my daily life but I just can't do it.

A read of this page will do more to answer that than I can, and your mother is right (and she's even right without knowing anything about these claims you keep reading about).

Is there really a planet x or a dwarf star like what tenchu posted in previous threads that we are all following the wrong direction of NASA and it will be reported soon?

No. There is no such object threatening the Earth at any point in your life. A number of pages here, like Nibiru, Planet X and so on will give you more details. As there is no such object, there is also no chance of any reports coming out about it.

Are we going to die when this planet x can be only found hiding better the sun one mth before it collides?

No, again for the simple reason that there is no such object.

Is the day dec 2011 or dec 2012 going to happen and we all will die?

Every day happens, what makes a day in December stand out? Absolutely nothing. You will not see the world end and everything die this December, next December, or any other December in your life.

Is comet really a fake and is actually a conspiracy that we will die from it?

Comets really exist, hundreds, even thousands of them exist, they're all around us at varying distances, none of which are a threat to Earth in your lifetime, especially not the comet that you've likely read about, Elenin. It doesn't come close, it has no influence on us.

The YouTube videos and all the very professional science and data in some of them really frightens me alot, I sometimes think how is it that they bother to do so much research just to false claims or it isn't false claims at all and there is some truth to it.

Here's the key: They don't do so much research. In fact a lot of the time, it takes you - as in anyone, using the very same resources as the videos use - just a matter of minutes to disprove what the video has said. Why? Because these people do not care about accurate research. They don't care about learning about what they're looking at, they just want some attention, and the easiest way to get it is to appeal to like-minded people, people who also don't care about researching it.

I am really very tire from all these scares bit I just can't stop it from scaring me further.

Read up on this site, check out some of the pages, some of the links within them. Pretty soon you'll be seeing the things that scare you in the same way as you see the Boogeyman. You're not scared of him, mostly because he doesn't exist, and soon enough you'll not be scared of all manner of wild objects, either because they don't exist either, or because they can do absolutely nothing to Earth, and in turn to you.

And now I've got to tackle lolny233s post. But ask around, there are better posters than me to help you out.

Daphne (guest) 26 May 2011 23:21

Thank you for explaining to me but I really can't take it off my mind.
I spend already several weeks crying myself to sleep.

lolny233 (guest) 26 May 2011 23:25

no dd805 posted that on comet post plzzz debunk every 1 including de 1st one plzzz help i scared
i just copied pasted what he said help

Nighthawk (guest) 26 May 2011 23:32

1-30; baseless speculation with no credible evidence from any reliable site. It's all horse. Idk what is in his mind but that's crazy. Nasa didn't do that because of Elenin, It was a malfunction but of course every doomsayer relates it TO elenin. Its laughable because they have no evidence. Idk what to say, give us a number and we'll debunk it.

Daphne (guest) 26 May 2011 23:35

Likewise haustier said in his post, a scientist said in her tv show that it's possible that something may be hiding behind the sun and astronomers cannot find it until a month before it comes onto us. Why will a reputable tv show scientist say it if she don't hv any sources. It scares me. I really had alot of scares till I cry and cry and starting to lose focus on what I like daily and school.

Nighthawk (guest) 27 May 2011 00:01

Read the rest of the thread, they say no it is NOT possible for that to happen. Go to the side bar and check out the Nibiru page

Gary A 27 May 2011 00:19

Hi Daphne.

You seem to have fallen victim to this crazy hoax, but don't feel ashamed or silly, these people can sound very convincing. Remember though, it is a hoax, no matter what any forum troll says. Don't ruin your future by believing this nonsense, you will feel really silly when 2013 arrives.

I will say the same to you as I say to anyone who sounds like you, if you can't stop feeling this way no matter how much you read this site, you should seek medical advice. This does not mean you are crazy, it just means your fear has taken over your rational side, it's not allowing you to spot nonsense when you see it.

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Daphne (guest) 27 May 2011 21:36

i suppose i've fallen deep as a victim into 2012 or 2011.
i talked to my school mates about this topic and realised not many of em knew about it.
i am now scare of all the talks in the comet elenin thread, i dont want to die at 14 of age.
i dont want to be killed by a comet or a planet approaching which can be found only a month before we all die.

i dont want dont want dont want.

Tomy2011 27 May 2011 21:41

Comet Elenin won't destroy anything. It's just a comet hype. All the orbit simulations have shown that even if the comet passes pretty close to Earth nothing would happen to us because Comet Elenin is very small.

i dont want to be killed by a comet or a planet approaching which can be found only a month before we all die.

You mean Nibiru? A planet like Nibiru would be visible to any astronomer by now. But we can't see any "intruder" planet close to the solar system.

Rita Sue 28 May 2011 03:27

Hi Daphne, I'm sorry you're scared.

I agree with Gary, if this fear is really bad you should probably get help. You could consider talking to your school's guidance counselor as well… I have had good experiences with mine.

Anyhow, Just keep reading and re-reading everything on the sidebar. If you read something scary in one of the threads here, I can guarantee someone will have it debunked within an hour or so (I have never seen any claim go un-debunked).

Please remember that one of the members here, Obaeyens, has been taking pictures of Elenin for a while now. He has pictures all over the Comet Elenin thread, and he watches that thing like a hawk! He has said over and over that it is absolutely 100% NOT dangerous to earth. Also, the man who discovered it, Leonid Elenin has even gone on Russian TV and certain scientific websites to tell everyone that the comet is in no way a threat. These guys can track a comet to the T, they will not have made a mistake.

As for Nibiru… Quite a few years back everyone said that the planet would be visible to the naked eye by early 2011… And no telescope whatsoever has picked anything up… Let alone the naked eye!

Please take care, Daphne… I was as scared as you are now a while back, and now I am free of all 2012/doomsday fear!

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"FEAR: False Evidence Appearing Real" - Unknown
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan
"Your leftovers called… They want their tin foil back." - Personal note to doomsayers.

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Mephistospheles 28 May 2011 05:41

I wonder now, do you truly understand why these events will not happen? I'm concerned that you may be suffering from a large amount of anxiety. But rest assured that none of them will happen. On the mean time, do enjoy your life. You owe it to yourself.

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Our fears are more numerous than our dangers, and we suffer more in our imagination than in reality.

Daphne (guest) 28 May 2011 20:52

Will try to think more positively now, i am really really trying my best to.

If without this site and the people here i feel so stranded alone.

But i still have the ultimate scare in me undoubtly i know i cant lie to myself but do let me say a thank you here for everyone
who has helped in a way or other.

Tomy2011 28 May 2011 20:59

I'm glad you are feeling better now. And keep in mind that if you have any question ask please.

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obaeyens 29 May 2011 01:47

Daphne, the most likely cause that you will die of is old age.
Unless you smoke and drink, drive fast cars or experiment with drugs.

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Awesomeee 29 May 2011 02:57

Drive fast cars :// LOL… Anyways how was you'r vacation obae?

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