Need help

Need help

Emily (guest) 28 May 2011 04:36

I don't even know where to start, even writing this makes me feel like my fear is even more real.

I don't know when I first heard about 2012, a few years ago I suppose and I was very agitated from the very beginning but I always had the "oh well that's still a few years off" deal and that made me feel a bit better. However, now that we are in 2011 I can't use the "still a few years off" bit to make myself feel any better and I am more scared now then I EVER was before.
Almost every thought in my head is tied to this date one way or another and it is making me ill. We just found out we lost our home and have to find a place to rent and I find myself driving by houses thinking "does this look like a comfortable place to die in?" and it just feels like time is flying by now because I am aware of this date and how close we are to it. I want to be the strong one for my family ( my mom, all I have left ) and she is the one telling me I need to get a grip but I just CAN'T! I recently went to the DR for anxiety meds and I explained to him what my fears and anxiety was stemming from and he just laughed at me. All I want to do is sleep until it is over and I have mulled over the idea of just getting it over with and taking some sleeping pills and if it weren't for my mom I probably would have done it already.
I've read through the site and although it made me feel a little better I am still not fully convinced that we are in the clear. As far as I gather this site was created by a few people who were hearing a lot of 2012 questions and wanted to give some people peace of mind. I just wonder who are you guys that made this site? The paranoid person in me wonders if this is just a false sense of security and why I should trust this information as opposed to all the info out there that is FOR 2012 not against. I know SOMETHING happened to the dinosaurs, so who's to say it won't happen again, whatever it was? I know this is all over the place but I am just talking as it comes, I don't even have the energy to erase and reword. For some reason I would be okay with the world ending this second but when they put a date on it every day until that day is the final countdown for me and it's driving me insane. There is a reason we shouldn't know the day we die and I think that is it, it will make you go crazy. There is all this talk out there about project blue beam and a bunch of other conspiracies I've just learned about (thanks to abovetopsecret.com) and I am truly frightened. They say the GOV cannot be trusted and that they wouldn't let it leak that the end of the world is coming to prevent mass hysteria and that in turn makes me question Nasa and their debunkings. I read about 2012 bunkers for the elite and places where they have stored seeds for all fruits and vegetables in case everything gets wiped out and the elite have to start all over. I do not believe the gov would tell us if the world was ending. As you can see I am really really REALLY scared and I need help, reassurance, ANYTHING.

Nighthawk (guest) 28 May 2011 04:47

Listen, calm down and relax. First off, IF the world was ending, which it is NOT, no one, not even all the governments could hide it. You have average and above average people who study about space and the earth who do not work for the govt and they too say the world is not ending because, well it's not. There is no proof of it and that website is designed just so you would fear the date and in one way or another, buy there stuff. It is what we consider a 'woo' site and should be forgotten about because it is faulty and has no science in it even when they claim it is science.

There science is based on lies to fit there faulty claims so it is one big circle of failure. You do however need to continue to take your meds and look at the bigger picture, There is one tiny % of people that believe and 2012, and guess what? They are the ones making money off it, everyone else knows it is lies and laughs them off. That's what you need to do, laugh. It is wanna of the best cures for fear, ever.

Sorry this might be bad but I wanted to respond quickly.

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Alene Y 28 May 2011 05:28

Hi Emily,
I'm so sorry that the tinfoil hat crowd has managed to frighten you like this. What you need to know is that there is not a shred of evidence for any of their nonsensical claims. It was all made up by delusional people and hoaxers with NO scientific background.

The doctor you saw is a total jerk. Most doctors realize that these things cause terrible anxiety among young people. This is the first time I have heard of one laughing at the patient. Any doctor worthy of his or her profession would never do such a thing. You should see a different doctor and a counselor. We have recommended to many people that they seek medical help for their anxiety and none of them have been laughed at or ridiculed for it.

As for who we are and whether we are connected to any government, no we are not. We are from many countries. Some of us are scientists and some are not. We are doing this because we saw that many children and teenagers were being terrified by this cruel hoax and we want to help them. You can see more about us under the About tab. We are from the US, England, Scotland, Brazil, Sweden, and other countries I can't think of at the moment. It would be pretty hard for any one government to control us. Our sole reason for doing this is to help you and others like you. There would be no point in trying to calm people if any of this were actually going to happen. We are trying to keep you from giving up your life or ruining it. In 2013, you will look back and wonder why you ever fell for this hoax.

The same goes for the silly claims about fake planets and astronomical events. There are thousands of professional and amateur astronomers worldwide watching the skies. If there were any threat out there, they couldn't miss it and they couldn't be kept quiet about it.

Yes, it is believed that a large asteroid wiped out the dinosaurs and it could happen again at some time. However, we are tracking all the near-Earth objects and there is nothing on a collision course with Earth as far out as they have their orbits plotted, which is more than 100 years.

The Svaalbard Seed Vault has nothing to do with any bogus doomsday. It is ti preserve the current strains of plants because some species do die out or get mixed with others until the current type is no longer around.

There are no bunkers for the elite unless they build them themselves. We don't need any bunkers because the whole 2012 thing is lies.

Please don't even consider suicide. You would break your mother's heart over a ridiculous money-making hoax. That is an irreversible decision. You would be giving up your life for no reason at all. Please see a different doctor and a counselor and don't go away. We will help you through this. As you read through our pages and forums, you will begin to learn more about actual science and will be able to see through the doomsayers' BS.

By the way, ATS is one of the worst woo sites on the internet. If you keep going there, you will keep scaring yourself. I encourage you to check other sites, but read scientific sites, not crackpot ones. If you go to a site and see lots of bright colors and flashing lights, along with stuff for sale, that's a crackpot hoaxer site.

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Gary A 28 May 2011 08:40

By the way, ATS is one of the worst woo sites on the internet. If you keep going there, you will keep scaring yourself.

I can't add much to Alene's post there, but I do want to second this part. You can't pay regular visits to a site like ATS and expect to feel normal. I wish I knew why sites like that exist, I have my own theory that they are run by a bunch of attention starved weirdo's who seem to get some kind of cheap thrill by trying to convince people that "all is not what it seems". So first step, stay well clear of ATS and similar sites, you are asking for trouble by going there.

I'm very sorry to hear how you have taken this so badly, but this site is here to help. Any questions you have, no matter how silly you think they may sound, we will do our best to answer. Start out by thinking of the one claim that you feel is scaring you most, ask us about it, and if we can't answer we can direct you to a reputable source who can.

I wish you the best of luck and sincerely hope we can help you get over this nonsense.

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The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.

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Rita Sue 29 May 2011 03:22

Hi Emily, hope you are feeling better about this stuff. I know that this website helped me get rid of my fears 100%! Please check back up with us and let us know how you are doing. We are all here to help!

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"FEAR: False Evidence Appearing Real" - Unknown
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan
"Your leftovers called… They want their tin foil back." - Personal note to doomsayers.

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Tomy2011 29 May 2011 15:57

Emily, we wish the best to you. Fear is normal and the 2012 rumors are scary, but it doesn't mean they are true. If you have any specific question, ask us. ;-)

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Tomy2011 28 May 2011 18:08

I recently went to the DR for anxiety meds and I explained to him what my fears and anxiety was stemming from and he just laughed at me.

What kind of doctor is this? Any professional would give attention to the patients, not laugh at them. If you really want to see a doctor, find another one, because this doctor you visited is a jerk.

I just wonder who are you guys that made this site?

Common people, chemists (Alene Y), astronomers (Bikenbeer2000, Obaeyens, Astrogeek), etc…

I know SOMETHING happened to the dinosaurs, so who's to say it won't happen again, whatever it was?

Who's to say it will happen in 2012, whatever it was? And the dinosaurs ruled the Earth for millions of years. We've been here for 250,000 years and you are afraid of dying now?

There is all this talk out there about project blue beam and a bunch of other conspiracies I've just learned about (thanks to abovetopsecret.com) and I am truly frightened.

Trust me, we are very familiarized with ATS. If you go there you'll scare yourself with nonsense and baseless conspiracy theories. It's woo, woo and woo everywhere you look.

They say the GOV cannot be trusted and that they wouldn't let it leak that the end of the world is coming to prevent mass hysteria and that in turn makes me question Nasa and their debunkings.

Ok, let's suppose that there is a conspiracy and NASA doesn't want to tell us anything. Still the doomsayers must prove what they are claiming. If Nibiru really exists and NASA is hidding it from us, they must show us where is it. If a pole shift will take place next year and the governments are hidding this information from us, they must prove their claim. If a comet will hit Earth in 2012 and NASA does know it will hit the Earth, they still must prove their claim.
It's that simple.
But there is no conspiracy, so why bother. Obama doesn't even know me, neither does NASA. :-)

I do not believe the gov would tell us if the world was ending.

Tell us I don't know. But we would know if the world really was ending. For God's sake, with Internet and this whole globalization, do you think the government can hide something from us, like an end of the world? Do you have any idea of how easy it's to a scientist to know whether the world will end or not and tell everyone about this?
Information spreads quick. No government could stop it.