My Story :)

My Story :)

Kelly (guest) 22 Jun 2011 16:49

I'm a seventeen year old. I used to worry a ton about 2012. I would cry myself to sleep and constantly wonder why God would do something like the 2012 proponents say "will happen". This site helps immensely and I visit it almost daily! Thank you so much for putting it up! Now I have a friend who's absolutely convinced that the rapture is soon because of all of the weird stuff that's going on (natural disasters and weather). She doesn't say 2012, but she's linked to a website on her facebook that claims that this year is the year. The person apparently can hear God's voice and He says that we "cannot know the day or the hour, but we can know the season." I've actually had to hide her facebook because what she says freaks me out so much and I hate doing that because she's so sweet in person. She actually tagged me in a note a little while ago that says many will be left behind, but I've finally removed it from my wall. I know that I have nothing to fear, but I can't help it. I've presented some of your evidence to her (like the fact that earthquakes are not really on the rise, though this year they seem to be occurring more…) and she doesn't believe it. I'm ashamed to say that she's actually convincing me…I just want to say thanks for eradicating my 2012 fear and allowing me to move onto another fear that (however irrational) is slightly more pleasant than being blown off of the earth. :D

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Syera 22 Jun 2011 17:47

I'm a seventeen year old. I used to worry a ton about 2012. I would cry myself to sleep and constantly wonder why God would do something like the 2012 proponents say "will happen".

I feel you. I was about the same age when I'd heard that the apocalypse was going to begin in May of '03 when Nibiru arrived. Nobody, especially children and teenagers, should have to go through that kind of psychological torture.

Thank you so much for putting it up! Now I have a friend who's absolutely convinced that the rapture is soon because of all of the weird stuff that's going on (natural disasters and weather). She doesn't say 2012, but she's linked to a website on her facebook that claims that this year is the year. The person apparently can hear God's voice and He says that we "cannot know the day or the hour, but we can know the season."

"Hearing God's voice" is not a good sign.

I've actually had to hide her facebook because what she says freaks me out so much and I hate doing that because she's so sweet in person. She actually tagged me in a note a little while ago that says many will be left behind, but I've finally removed it from my wall.

Did she know how much this stuff bothers you at the time she posted that? If so, she's being psychologically abusive, no matter how "sweet" she is otherwise. You should tell her how this kind of thing is a trigger for anxiety. If she doesn't take a hint and shut up about it, drop her like a hot potato because she's psychologically abusing you.

I know that I have nothing to fear, but I can't help it. I've presented some of your evidence to her (like the fact that earthquakes are not really on the rise, though this year they seem to be occurring more…) and she doesn't believe it.

It sounds like she's pretty deep into this stuff, then. She might come to when the earth fails to end on December 21st, 2012 - but it's more likely she'll revise her beliefs and decide something invisible happened, or that they miscalculated, or anything that doesn't involve admitting she was wrong.

I'm ashamed to say that she's actually convincing me…

There's nothing to be ashamed of. I assume based on what you've written that you've had a religious upbringing, possibly Christian. Christianity is an apocalyptic religion, and in many cases you have it drilled into your head from the time you're a very small child that the world is going to end sometime soon, if not any minute now. People who are brought up in this kind of environment are programmed to believe in this type of thing, and are therefore more easily triggered by it. Even if a person rationally knows how ridiculous it all is, programming that goes back that far is extremely difficult to overcome.

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Nighthawk (guest) 22 Jun 2011 18:22

I guarantee you she get's her thoughts from technology like you said. The reason many people think that besides the fact that they've been taught the end is nigh since there childhood, is the fact that we can know about natural disasters easier as in we know how many happen. 50 years ago you had almost no idea what was happening in Indonesia or Egypt or something like that, it's just that times are changing.

People who say the end is near do not understand what the Bible talks about, they try to pick verses from the Bible and incorporate them into our times today, which is in my opinion a sin because it's not truly the word of God. They take the verse out of context to promote there ideas and books and people ignorant enough to follow them do not understand scripture themselves.

I'm sorry for the religious essay if that offends anyone.

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obaeyens 22 Jun 2011 19:37

Hello Kelly,

Now I have a friend who's absolutely convinced that the rapture is soon because of all of the weird stuff that's going on (natural disasters and weather).

How can she be convinced after the Harold Camping fiasco? She is doing the exact same thing as Harold Camping and the end result will be the exact same thing: nothing happens.
Also it is very hard to believe that a loving god would torture people.

You know if I were a religious person and believed in rapture, then I would choose to stay behind because many people will need my help that could not get up in heaven. I would feel so bad to be in heaven having fun while other are having a hard time.

The person apparently can hear God's voice

This is not a good sign, she need specialized medical help.

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Syera 22 Jun 2011 22:31

How can she be convinced after the Harold Camping fiasco? She is doing the exact same thing as Harold Camping and the end result will be the exact same thing: nothing happens.

Oh, easy. Harold Camping was a fraud, but her sources are totally the real deal.

Of course that's just a guess, but in my experience that's how these things usually go down.

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When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

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TheGreatJuju 23 Jun 2011 01:00

Of course that's just a guess, but in my experience that's how these things usually go down.

Since the world is still here, that's how it always goes down.

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http://www.undeadrufus.com

Kelly (guest) 24 Jun 2011 05:05

Thanks guys. Yeah, I'm a Christian. My entire family is. My parents are both Christians and don't believe in what my friend says, but I can't help being a little freaked out. You all helped a lot! I just want to say thanks for all that you do on this website :D

Tomy2011 24 Jun 2011 12:52

You are welcome, Kelly. And remember that whatever worries you, you can ask for help here and we'll answer you as soon as possible.

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idance22 28 Jun 2011 22:36

Hey y'all :) Kelly here! I wanted to join so that I can (try) to help people out like you all helped me. I can't promise much seeing that my knowledge is pretty much limited to what's on this website, but I will definitely try :)

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TheGreatJuju 28 Jun 2011 23:31

Welcome to the board! :)

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"They tell you, but do you believe it? If so, why?"

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Alene Y 29 Jun 2011 05:35

Hi Kelly,
Welcome. We're glad to have you.

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Awesomeee 29 Jun 2011 14:44

Sup , Welcome to the ship ARRR!

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No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.

Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'

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Tomy2011 29 Jun 2011 17:02

Welcome, Kelly!

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Rita Sue 29 Jun 2011 20:15

Hi Kelly, welcome!!! If you like the idea of fear being pounded outta your head… You'll love it here! ;)

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"FEAR: False Evidence Appearing Real" - Unknown
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan
"Your leftovers called… They want their tin foil back." - Personal note to doomsayers.

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idance22 29 Jun 2011 21:23

Thanks everyone :) And about fear being pounded outta my head, I'm think I might be afraid of that… Gosh, it's like a never ending circle! On another hand, if I can pound fear outta other peoples' heads…hmmm, that might be entertaining…

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Lindsay88 30 Jun 2011 03:34

Welcome,fellow dancer! :)

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idance22 02 Jul 2011 20:06

Thanks :) Always nice to meet another dancer!

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Rita Sue 30 Jun 2011 04:01

Lol don't be afraid, it's great! Like they say, pain is weakness leaving the body… And I guess you could also say: Being bombarded with knowledge is fear leaving the brain!

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"FEAR: False Evidence Appearing Real" - Unknown
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan
"Your leftovers called… They want their tin foil back." - Personal note to doomsayers.

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Awesomeee 30 Jun 2011 15:55

Also dont be scared of the trolls that come here they all talk garbage/psuedo science

Im saying this because you will find them here…

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No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.

Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'

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idance22 02 Jul 2011 20:07

and thanks :) BOO TROLLS!!!

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idance22 02 Jul 2011 20:06

Alright…still sounds violent, but I'll take it :D

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Rita Sue 02 Jul 2011 20:41

Lol I chose the wrong words and made it sound like boot camp! What I mean is that compared to my high school this was a crash course for me In 'critical thinking'.

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"FEAR: False Evidence Appearing Real" - Unknown
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan
"Your leftovers called… They want their tin foil back." - Personal note to doomsayers.

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idance22 02 Jul 2011 21:33

Ohh, it's fine :) I have a feeling I'm gonna like it here!

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Awesomeee 03 Jul 2011 00:21

You stay away from psuedo-science and woo sites right?

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No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.

Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'

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Awesomeee 03 Jul 2011 00:22

Like are you addicted to going on them , Im currently working on not going and so far doing good.

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No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.

Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'

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idance22 06 Jul 2011 03:33

I'm pretty good at staying off of them, but I know how easy it is to get curious and just click the link. Back in March, there were "Bible Prophecy Seminar" billboards (which I've been told not to worry about-they've been doing them for years!) and even though I knew what looking at them would entail, I still glimpsed at them every time I drove past them. My aforementioned super-sweet, but rapture-obsessed friend also posted a link that sorta started the paranoia back in December and I just HAD to click on it… Since then, I've stayed off of her facebook page, but it's so tempting to click on it. She also wants to hang out sometime (she graduated in June and I still have a year to go). I'll make ya a deal-if you'll stay off of the woo sites, I'll keep from clicking on her fb page and if we hang out, I'll try and steer our conversations away from the end times stuff. Deal? :D

Nighthawk (guest) 06 Jul 2011 03:50

Actually to get over my fears I had to go back to the sites that scared me the most, dissect them and realize what tricks and such they pulled and it relieved me right away. I also have a rapture obsessed fan boy and I asked him why do you believe it? He said what everyone else said, look at today's news and I realized it was all lies. One of the worst things you can do is take the Bible out of context, contort it to the news of today and spread it. It's toxic, and it's what every nut job does.

Awesomeee 06 Jul 2011 04:01

Thats a cool way Nighthawk.

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No man knows the day nor the hour when the world will end.

Become a debunker and help out those that are being fed up with lies spread by False scientists going after you'r money.
Practice what you want to and dont give up on you'r dreams my dream is to become a basketball player 'NBA'

idance22 06 Jul 2011 04:41

That is really cool! I stumbled upon Ghanaword and End-Times-Prophecy.com/org/something (I'm NOT going back to find out-and if any of you are as gullible as me, please DON'T) in looking up the note she tagged me in. Sadly, that was before I read your post. Speaking of said note, I just untagged myself from the note-which is sorta freedom in a sense that I don't have to look at it! I kept up with my end, which means you better keep up with your end, Awesomee :). Anyway, Religious predictions for something like the rapture seem pretty difficult to debunk (especially from a Christian perspective) seeing as they deal primarily with abstract concepts (unexplained increase in disasters vs. the more concrete (though nonexistent) Planet X). That's been my struggle. Thanks for the idea, Nighthawk! Wow, I write long posts…