I need to give a good reason.

I need to give a good reason.

Bokator (guest) 06 Jul 2011 23:19

Recently I was back stabbed by a friend of mine who says this terral03 guy knows his stuff, I asked him to come to this site and look around on what this site is saying is true. I HOPE YOU READ THIS BUDDY!

So when I told him that guy is nuts, he immediately tells me that they have "proof" that a brown dwarf is heading its way and the whole government is doing something. The "proof" where he got it from is this website…..he asked me wheres my proof and I stood there embarrassed………the website he has given me is this

http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2407.0

It would be appreciated if you guys help me on this….so next time he comes over to my house you guys would be the proof.
Sometimes YouTube could be a pain.

Re: I need to give a good reason.

Awesomeee 06 Jul 2011 23:36

He has no real evidence all he has is nonsense but you have good evidence and scientific evidence

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Re: I need to give a good reason.

3WMElliott 06 Jul 2011 23:36

The first claim is wrong, so I'm probably going to need a reason to continue reading past it, knowing the rest of it will be more drivel in a similar vein that you'll find scattered throughout these forums.

Just use the search box on 2012hoax and search for names, events and so on (handily, that links puts a lot of things in bold, so try those terms for example). If you get no results, select the option 'pages and forum' or 'forum only' under the search box and try again. If you've still found nothing on 2012hoax that will help out, post about it - by then, you'll not only have a specific claim that we haven't dealt with yet, but by reading all that we have dealt with you'll already be in a better position to respond to your friend.

Bokator (guest) 07 Jul 2011 00:04

Alright, I told him about how it isn't a brown dwarf but his thick head is saying "Its a brown dwarf, they have spotted it and tracked it." Ive shown him Obae's very useful pictures and he says the evidence is on that site……………If only if I was talking to him in the real world…..stupid aim.

Awesomeee 07 Jul 2011 00:06

Hes dumb dont be friends with him than u can laugh at him Psuedo-scientific butt.

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Awesomeee 07 Jul 2011 00:06

*His*

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3WMElliott 07 Jul 2011 00:20

Awesomeee, on any of your posts click 'Options', then 'Edit', then correct yourself, hit 'Save', then rejoice in the knowledge of making no more double posts.

Awesomeee 07 Jul 2011 00:23

Thanks for telling me bud.

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Re: I need to give a good reason.

Tomy2011 06 Jul 2011 23:38

Well, I can debunk what your link says. Actually, the first claim…

The ELE 9/26 Warning Video (link) is helping many people wake up to the fact that we are looking at the approach of a dwarf star-like object using the ELEnin orbit/flight path that has been causing earthquakes on our planet since 1965 (Mensur Omerbashich paper) and affecting Earth magnetically since about 2004 (CNN story) pointing to the fact that this object has great mass and magnetic field polarity.

This… thing, called "ELEnin" (?) is not causing earthquakes. As we have stated here over and over again, nothing as small as "ELE" can cause earthquakes or tsunami. Mensur Omerbashich is not a scientist (sic). I would love to read the 'CNN story'.
The rest of the link is a lengthy, lengthy amount of BS, which I don't have even time to debunk. You can read more in other threads on Comet Elenin… or "ELE"…

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timber (guest) 25 Jul 2011 04:49

of course hes scientist: http://sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/.

And what are you? paperboy or milkman? Or you still at flippin burgers to get you thru community college LOL

TheGreatJuju 25 Jul 2011 07:34

of course hes scientist: http://sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/.

Yeah, let's call that a non sequitur. :|

And what are you? paperboy or milkman? Or you still at flippin burgers to get you thru community college LOL

Insults to hide inadequacy?

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3WMElliott 25 Jul 2011 07:36

Blimey, are you Omerbashichs' head of PR, timber?

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bikenbeer2000 07 Jul 2011 00:19

he immediately tells me that they have "proof" that a brown dwarf is heading its way

If he thinks that "proof" is to be found on YouTube and some crackpot spouting nonsense on his own website then there's probably no convincing him. All you can do is show him your "proof" that it's nonsense on proper science websites such as NASA: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-135

Bokator (guest) 07 Jul 2011 00:32

After that, he signed off lol!
He'll be back for more.

Awesomeee 07 Jul 2011 00:33

Leave him alone lol

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KAM1K4ZE (guest) 07 Jul 2011 04:37

you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally didnt need to do this bro
all right i get it im wrong…….

But answer me this?
Is it true that a brown dwarf is heading our way?

lol i used your laptop btw.

DieselHorseLAW 07 Jul 2011 04:45

http://www.2012hoax.org/nibiru

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KAM1K4ZE (guest) 07 Jul 2011 04:54

I dont believe in nibiru………………………………………………………..ive read that to.

As in brown dwarf, i mean "Brown Dwarf".
nothing doom related.

DieselHorseLAW 07 Jul 2011 04:59

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_dwarf

If a brown dwarf "came into our solar system, and flew by us" like idiots claim then it wouldn't be a good day for us. Of course if there was one set to arrive in 2012 than it would already be in our solar system and we would notice the gravitational effects on other planets and to put it simply, we don't. It would also be visible by the naked eye.

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Bishh 07 Jul 2011 05:03

which to put it simply, it isn't ;)

KAM1K4ZE (guest) 07 Jul 2011 05:10

right……..im confused……

so how long does it take till one actually comes close to earth?

TheGreatJuju 07 Jul 2011 05:53

so how long does it take till one actually comes close to earth?

It won't. Brown dwarfs buzzing Earth is the stuff of fantasy, not reality. On the off chance that something like that even could happen, the object in question would easily be noticed decades or centuries before it even got close, and it would be forced to obey physical laws like everything else. There is no Brown Dwarf in or imminently approaching our Solar System.

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Bokator (guest) 07 Jul 2011 06:04

Wait till he reads this tomorrow.

DieselHorseLAW 07 Jul 2011 06:06

There is no set length of time until one "comes close to Earth". I'm guessing it is possible, but it is very unlikely and probably well never happen. If it were to happen one came near or into our solar system then we would notice effects on other planets long before it got to us. It isn't something that can just sneak up on us.

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bikenbeer2000 07 Jul 2011 11:48

so how long does it take till one actually comes close to earth?

"If any of the brown dwarf stars were heading our way, we would certainly know about it and have hundreds of thousands of years advance notice of its arrival"
Mark Morris, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at UCLA.
http://www.2012hoax.org/penn-teller Part 2

obaeyens 07 Jul 2011 21:01

so how long does it take till one actually comes close to earth?

Any object that enters our solar system from Pluto's distance will need 20 years to get close to Earth.
If it moved any faster then it is not an object that orbits this solar system in a fixed period. It really takes that long.

There is nothing out there that fits any description that is related to 2012.
If something is out there the it will surely take minimal 20 years to get here.

And it gets even worse for the 2012 hoaxers since New Horizons is searching for objects to pass by and do research on its way to Pluto. So a lot of astronomers are monitoring the sky with big telescopes looking for something interesting. There is no evidence of a big incoming object!

obaeyens 07 Jul 2011 21:09

Just checked, Elenin at about the average distance of Pluto is travelling at a speed of about 6.6 km/s relative to the sun. At its closest point at the sun it will have a speed of 60 km/s relative to the Sun.

This takes 20 years to reach.
This is also the only speed it can travel in order to fit into any description of 2012.

Any object that just pops up and heads towards us is NOT related to any 2012 claim.

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