Lisa's Rambling Rant - "Nostradamus 2012"

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Yeah, let's not post random walls o' text in the Forum Rules thread. Okay?

Lisa's Rambling Rant - "Nostradamus 2012"

TheGreatJuju 11 Jul 2011 23:42

"Lisa" wrote:

At first I was not going to comment on this site since the opinion is obviously so one-sided and lacking in accurate information regarding the History Channel show titled "Nostradamus 2012". However once I read that "scientists" were the moderators on this site I felt I had no choice but to respond. If anyone actually paid attention to the information portrayed in the History Channel show then this website would not be able to comment on the content of the show. First of all the History Channel show is discussing the "ASTROLOGICAL" significance of the "YEAR 2012". Second, the "Galatic Alignment" refers to the sun rising in the constellation Aquarius during the winter solstice of 2012…..once again "Astrological" evidence……not astronomical evidence. The show does not state or purport to provide evidence of an astronomical alignment! Secondly if individuals are dumb enough to believe anything that is stated on television as truth without questioning the information and requiring supporting evidence, then the population of the world is actually more ridiculous than I first assumed. If the education system in the United States actually promoted truth and independent evaluation of information instead of regurgitation and instant acceptance of what is taught then perhaps individuals would be taught to challenge information, which might actually facilitate open-minded thought analysis……Imagine that!. As for scienctific evidence and the idea that if science says it is so then it becomes law is faulty thinking. If I remember correctly, most scientists during the 80's argued that "global warming" did not exitrs and was a hoax perpetrated by the left and lacking in sufficient evidence to support that particular theory………well I hate to break it to you all the scientists of the world……..but "Global Warming" exists. And for all the rest of the non-believers, is anyone paying attention to the news lately. Africa is experiencing the worst famine in 60 years due to a devastating drought. How interesting….seems to me that was also covered in the History Channel show. Perhaps the all knowing "scientists" should get out of the lab once in awhile and see what is happening in the world for themselves!

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Re: Lisa's Rambling Rant - "Nostradamus 2012"

TheGreatJuju 11 Jul 2011 23:44

At first I was not going to comment on this site since the opinion is obviously so one-sided and lacking in accurate information regarding the History Channel show titled "Nostradamus 2012".

Okay, but it would be nice if you might, you know, let us know whom you are responding to and what that person or persons actually said.

However once I read that "scientists" were the moderators on this site I felt I had no choice but to respond.

That's not entirely accurate. There are scientists who contribute to this site and are admins/mods, but we are not exclusively so. At any rate, moving on with the wall o' text….

If anyone actually paid attention to the information portrayed in the History Channel show then this website would not be able to comment on the content of the show.

Maybe you meant to say something else, but as written that makes no sense.

First of all the History Channel show is discussing the "ASTROLOGICAL" significance of the "YEAR 2012". Second, the "Galatic Alignment" refers to the sun rising in the constellation Aquarius during the winter solstice of 2012…..once again "Astrological" evidence……not astronomical evidence. The show does not state or purport to provide evidence of an astronomical alignment!

I never saw the show, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe someone who did see it can help you. Again, let me stress the importance of specificity when posting a rant as you have done. You're apparently passionate about something, but nobody has any way of making heads or tails of your post, because we don't even know to whom you are directing your wrath.

If the Sun rising in Aquarius were to actually occur on that date (which it does not), then "galactic alignment" is a gross misnomer. Wouldn't you agree?

Secondly if individuals are dumb enough to believe anything that is stated on television as truth without questioning the information and requiring supporting evidence, then the population of the world is actually more ridiculous than I first assumed. If the education system in the United States actually promoted truth and independent evaluation of information instead of regurgitation and instant acceptance of what is taught then perhaps individuals would be taught to challenge information, which might actually facilitate open-minded thought analysis……Imagine that!

You're certainly welcome to that opinion, but I still see little more than a rant.

As for scienctific evidence and the idea that if science says it is so then it becomes law is faulty thinking.

You must be confused, because nobody here has ever said any such thing. On the contrary, you will routinely find us explaining how science changes to accommodate new data.

Once again, it helps if you specify to whom you are replying. However, if you are just attempting to build a straw-man that you might berate for your own entertainment, then that does somewhat explain your reluctance to be specific.

If I remember correctly, most scientists during the 80's argued that "global warming" did not exitrs and was a hoax perpetrated by the left and lacking in sufficient evidence to support that particular theory………

You don't remember correctly, because that isn't what happened.

well I hate to break it to you all the scientists of the world……..but "Global Warming" exists.

This isn't news to scientists, but thank you for the information.

And for all the rest of the non-believers, is anyone paying attention to the news lately. Africa is experiencing the worst famine in 60 years due to a devastating drought.

While famine is nothing new to Africa, yes. Behold the perils of uncooperative weather patterns and overpopulation.

How interesting….seems to me that was also covered in the History Channel show

Sorry, I wouldn't know. I doubt it was predicted by Nostradamus, however, and I strongly suspect it has nothing to do with magical sky portents or 2012 mysticism.

Perhaps the all knowing "scientists" should get out of the lab once in awhile and see what is happening in the world for themselves!

You seem very angry, and for all my attempts to discern why, I'm now to the end of your wall o' text without having done so.

Moved to Miscellaneous.

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Re: Lisa's Rambling Rant - "Nostradamus 2012"

bikenbeer2000 12 Jul 2011 00:51

I have various programmes such as "Nostradamus 2012" saved on hard drive for just this sort of eventuality and can check up on them pretty well immediately. Four minutes into this programme, the narrator states:
"In 2012, from the Earth's perspective, the Sun will align with the centre of the Milky Way Galaxy in an incredibly rare astronomical phenomenon that occurs only once every 26,000 years."

First of all the History Channel show is discussing the "ASTROLOGICAL" significance of the "YEAR 2012"

Wrong. The word used was 'astronomical'.

Second, the "Galatic Alignment" refers to the sun rising in the constellation Aquarius during the winter solstice of 2012

No it doesn't. It rises in the constellation Sagittarius. If you want astrology, then it rises on the Sagittarius/Capricorn border, not Aquarius.

The show does not state or purport to provide evidence of an astronomical alignment!

The quoted passage above clearly shows that you're wrong.
As for the rest of your wall of text, I don't really understand what you're driving at.
Going back to the History Channel quote, the Sun never aligns with the exact centre of the galaxy but passes 5° from it and crosses the galactic equator in an incredibly rare astronomical phenomenon which happens every year. Read about it here.
You should know you're on a loser if you decide to defend any History Channel drivel.