Reputable sources
I was just wondering with some of the bad information on the Internet
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I was just wondering how do I know this site is a trust worthy source of information and how do we know you are really scientists and not lying
Because unlike proponents, we cite our sources and correct any information that is wrong, and we don't have to be scientists to do such a thing.
I use to wonder the same thing because I didn't know who to trust. But the people on here are real good people just trying to help you. Read the "about us" page to learn more.
Hi Ian;
That's a very fair question, and we don't mind at all that you ask it. While some of us are scientists, most of us are not. Personally I am just an amateur astronomer. My 'day job' is working in the Information Systems department for a small manufacturing company.
We try very hard to cite sources for all of the information we present, and we also try to keep the information presented here up to date and correct. Another thing that you can do to confirm what we say is to check the science, not only of our claims, but of the claims that the proponents make.
For example, if someone's idea would violate long-standing laws of science (such as Kepler's laws of planetary motion, or Newton's laws of gravitation), then there's a problem with the idea. If someone's argument is laced with logical fallacies then there's a problem with their argument. It is not up to us to prove them wrong, but rather it is up to them to prove themselves right.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
all peoplke dont believe you , i talk with a guy he says leonid elenin dont exist and why dont hes family is on the internet ? and bla bla bla and i have showed leonins facebook page and homepage and everything but he dont believe me or you guys when i tell him to look here then he says im spreeding propaganda :P he must be creasy i really trust you guys :)
I was just wondering how do I know this site is a trust worthy source of information and how do we know you are really scientists and not lying
Because what is told here can be checked in any physics books. You probably learned about it in school or will learn it in the future.
You can do the calculations yourself.
We also do not ask you to believe us. We expect you to check our claims and ask questions if we say something wrong.
First of all, I don't think too many of us have actually claimed to be scientists. However, we cite easily-verifiable scientists (eg, people who work at NASA).
I'm not a scientist, but I've spent a lot of time watching what happens when people expect the "big one" to hit in the near future and the rhetoric they use to try to turn people into believers. Unsurprisingly, what's going on is no different than many other end-of-the-world scares, up to and including the zillions of "anomalous" photographs.
When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Well I have been working for 5.5 years as a scientific software developer for specialised science equipment. I worked with many scientists.
I should have been a astronomer but back then when I was in school, astronomy was not available to study.
I hope to get back in the science track because I loved doing this.
This very site lists some very good resources on how to detect bogus claims and verify if the things you are being told are in fact truthful or not.
Detecting BS:
http://www.2012hoax.org/detecting-bs
Logical fallacies list:
http://www.2012hoax.org/fallacies
Also, this Wikipedia entry on pseudoscience:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Pseudoscience
One's convictions should be proportional to one's evidence. - Sam Harris
I think that here you get an answer how simple basic physics you learn in school when you are about 15-16 years old can debunk some of the 2012 hoax claims.
You need not to be a professor to do such a thing. And you can easily calculate this yourself if you have had this in school.
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