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r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:11

hi what about the solar flares in 012-013, the earth's poles shifting, the way time seems to be going by fast, which a few have claimed we are approaching a new dimension is the reason why, the illuminati or powers that be conspiracy for 012 which i've heard about a new world order or one world gov't take over which seems very clear to me that, thats there ultimate goal, and i keep hearing about this through well educated metaphyicicist such as dr. blair and a few others in the same field who also spoke about several suns and one being nibiru, i know this is far from a perfect world and we all must leave one day but im a bit concerned because of my kids and family and the rest of the good hearted people out there

pedro (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:15

what about the sun flares? they are often have been many for a time now , the poles dont shift place fast it take long time and what I know it dont happen 2012 and nibiru is not a secondsunit is a HOAX please read on the navigation field tothe left :)

Carol29 04 Oct 2011 18:27

Firstly my Favourite…The illuminati.

This is a organisation, founded in the 17th century and more than likely, do not exist anymore.

what about the solar flares in 012-013

What solar flares. They happen all the time

the earth's poles shifting

Magnetic North does shift, but a actually flipping of the poles is impossible. It may happen over thousands of years. But not by instant magic.

Nibriu….Does not exist

Nothing to be concerned about. The Earth will go on as normal, for another few million years.

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pedro (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:29

wasnt that exact wha I was saying carol? :P

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:29

ive heard its suppose to be a major solar storm between 012 and 013 how will that affect us?, so how long does a pole shift takes and is it going to affect us with nature disasters, what about this 5th dimension issue as far as time's speed? i mean i know responsibility makes time go by….

pedro (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:31

yes its sun maximum 2013 I think but the sunstorm not goijng to be bigger then usuall , it have been sun maximum many time sin history :) pole shift dont cause nature disasters , what is 5th dimension?

Carol29 04 Oct 2011 18:33

ive heard its suppose to be a major solar storm between 012 and 013

So now someone can predict a major solar storm. How have all the other major solar storms affected us…Ask yourself that. Did you die, did the earth flip, did something else happen?

so how long does a pole shift takes and is it going to affect us

Thousands of years, or in the case of magnetic North, 40km's per year.

Gary A 04 Oct 2011 18:33

hi what about the solar flares in 012-013,

What about them? Solar flares happen all the time, not only 2012/2013.

the earth's poles shifting,

That's news to me. The rotation pole can't change, the magnetic poles can but it takes hundreds, maybe thousands of years. It won't happen in your lifetime.

the way time seems to be going by fast, which a few have claimed we are approaching a new dimension is the reason why

Total nonsense.

the illuminati or powers that be conspiracy

Aww no, not this, anything but this. It's all imaginary, that's all I can say.

a new world order or one world gov't take over which seems very clear to me that, thats there ultimate goal,

Aaaaand he's off.

who also spoke about several suns and one being nibiru,

Doesn't exist, sorry.

i know this is far from a perfect world and we all must leave one day but im a bit concerned because of my kids and family and the rest of the good hearted people out there

I'm a little concerned for your kids, but not for any of that imaginary waffle you just produced.

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Re: there's more

Astrogeek 04 Oct 2011 19:25

hi what about the solar flares in 012-013

solar flares

the earth's poles shifting,

magnetic pole shift
rotational pole shift

the way time seems to be going by fast

Time flies when you're having fun. Seriously, is this a subjective or objective observation?

which a few have claimed we are approaching a new dimension is the reason why

What is their evidence? Why do they claim we are 'approaching a new dimension', how does 'time speeding up' indicate this, and what is their evidence of 'time speeding up'?

the illuminati or powers that be conspiracy for 012 which i've heard about a new world order or one world gov't take over which seems very clear to me that, thats there ultimate goal

It seems very clear to me that your worries and concerns are very subjective, and are being driven by various conspiracy theories. The Illuminati don't exist any more. The NWO is a fantasy of strident anti-government conspiracy theorists.

and i keep hearing about this through well educated metaphyicicist

«cough» A what? A "well educated meta-physicist"? That's like a Nobel laureate mechanic.

dr. blair and a few others in the same field who also spoke about several suns and one being nibiru,

Nibiru
Planet X
Youtube

i know this is far from a perfect world and we all must leave one day but im a bit concerned because of my kids and family and the rest of the good hearted people out there

Besides your generalized anxiety, there doesn't seem to be anything new and noteworthy in your questions. I suggest you re-read the pages I've linked in this response.

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r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 20:24

excuse me astro-geek for the mis-spelling of meta-physicist the meaning- a person who studies the clarification of the natural being and the world!

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:35

ive seen several dvds such as e.n.d. game, the new old world order to name a few, symbols that they use in our every day life they do exist maybe not under the old cult name illuminati

Gary A 04 Oct 2011 18:40

It's all total B.S, it's also off-topic but, hey, whatever.

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r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:41

please dont make fun of my questions im just looking for answers thats all, are any of you guys employeers of this site

pedro (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:41

who make fun of your questions?

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:44

ok sorry gary what about the weakening of earth's magnetic shield, should that be of concern

Gary A 04 Oct 2011 18:51

ok sorry gary what about the weakening of earth's magnetic shield, should that be of concern

No. It is weakening, but it is well above average field strengths in the past, and it is not weak enough to flip. We know the strength the magnetic field falls to during a reversal by looking at past reversals, the magnetic field is currently nowhere near low enough to flip. Even if it was, there's no evidence to suggest that it'll do any harm to us.

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Carol29 04 Oct 2011 18:54

Although, it is not the weakest it has ever been, it is a little weaker… but, its stronger than average at the moment, then it was millions of years ago. The field is barely weaker than it was just 11 years ago during solar maximum. The strength varies on huge timescales.

CME's and solar flares will interact with the field as they always have. Even if our magnetic shield was not there, our thick atmosphere provides quite a bit of protection from this.

Carol29 04 Oct 2011 18:45

are any of you guys employeers of this site

Nobody is paid here.

Astrogeek 04 Oct 2011 19:31

I am the 'founder' of this site, which is a lot less impressive than it sounds. I started the site and established the initial framework. Nearly all of the content comes from various contributors, some of whom have been debunking 2012 nonsense for years before I arrived on the scene.

Nobody is paid by the site. The site produces no income. I pay the relatively small fees for running the site out of my own pocket. Nobody makes a dime here. If you look around you will see that there are no ads, no 'donate' buttons, no products for sale, no requests for money of any kind, and therefore no source of revenue.

We don't get money from any outside organization. NASA doesn't pay us, the CIA doesn't pay us, the non-existent groups "Illuminati" and "NWO" don't pay us either.

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Carol29 04 Oct 2011 18:44

The illuminati was not a cult. Please read your history.

Yes we use old symbols from our ancestors. I use the Fada a lot. Handed down from old native gaelige speakers when writing my own language. Its a symbol, does it mean anything…why yes,.

Gary A 04 Oct 2011 18:47

All the answers you're looking for (apart from this NWO illuminati rubbish) can be found by looking over the individual pages on the left. People have taken a lot of time and effort to write them, so go ahead and read them.

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r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 18:51

carol please excuse me i mean occult ill read the history but please be aware of these documentaries e.n.d. game and the new old world order you can probably youtube it im not a 100 percent sure

DanceswithElvis 04 Oct 2011 18:58

The title of the documentaries pretty much sum it up. Bunk. Complete and utter conspiracy theory BS. These low lifes are trying to feed on people's fears and most of them are trying to sell something while they're at it.

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Carol29 04 Oct 2011 18:58

They are not a occult either, as we know about them, so therefore, not a secret society.

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 19:16

the information was provided free elvis, and once again excuse me carol but you know what i mean and yes we know about them but some ppl dont so to them its a secret society, hey guys just do the research its a guy name alex jones google him even jesse ventura former minnesota governor had a show called conspiracy theory on the tru network exposing there agendas, ok for him possibly a money situation but still good evidence but alex jones for sure its not about money

3WMElliott 04 Oct 2011 19:25

'Jesse Ventura' and 'good evidence' don't belong in the same sentence. Why don't you run a search through these forums for umpteen more threads noting problems with not only Jesse, but Alex Jones as well?

After all, just do the research…

TheGreatJuju 04 Oct 2011 19:47

but alex jones for sure its not about money

I guess that's why he sells all those books, videos and website subscriptions.

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r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 19:57

would you pay for a lie or the truth

TheGreatJuju 04 Oct 2011 20:40

would you pay for a lie or the truth

Nice dodge.

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obaeyens 04 Oct 2011 19:22

Any words like illuminati , NWO and HAARP in a documentary automatically tells you that these people promoting it are insane, mentally challenged or scam artists. None of their claims are based on any real fact that is true. They have to play a mind game and scary music and scary images to convince people.

Carol29 04 Oct 2011 19:31

r.nysce
Do you believe in Elves, Fairies, pixie's, little people, little folk, leprechauns or flying reindeer.

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 19:54

hey carol do you believe in greed and control well it equals, great depression, slavery/holocaust, genocide, brainwashed people(mkultra), common sense oh yeah and what you said flying reindeer

Carol29 04 Oct 2011 20:12

I believe that there was a great depression, A holocaust, genocide, slavery, and now greed, brainwashed people, common sense prevail's in this site and science, poverty, fear among people who have been frightened by the BS of 2012, fear among children about the BS of 2012, unequailty among the sex's, that without rules, life as we know it, will deteriorate.

I have never seen a flying reindeer nor seen evidence of one.

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 20:27

great answer

Carol29 04 Oct 2011 20:33

Of course it is a great answer

I think it beat's your new world order BS, as life will go on, for me, the same as before, and for everyone else.

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 20:38

but of course carol you've become wiser

Gary A 04 Oct 2011 20:43

but of course carol you've become wiser

Anybody else think this guy is just having little digs because his NWO/illuminati nonsense has been pissed all over?

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Carol29 04 Oct 2011 20:46

Yes Gary, I agree, But then, I have lived through 20 end of the worlds, new world takeover crap..

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 20:47

only a guy named gary would stick his nose into somebody else convo

Gary A 04 Oct 2011 20:49

Is that a Gary thing? Yeah, we all a bunch of nosy little so and so's ain't we?

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Carol29 04 Oct 2011 20:50

Someone give r.nysce a shovel . He is digging a bigger hole for himself.

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Carol29 04 Oct 2011 20:51

Don't forgot your shovel if you want to be a troll.

r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 20:58

someone give carol and the guy name gary a little bit more maturity

Gary A 04 Oct 2011 21:02

Haha, oh the irony of a guy who believes in the NWO and who thinks everyone with the name Gary is somehow butting into the global populace's conversations wants people to be more mature.

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r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 21:10

wow so smart gary so smart that you would get sensitive over a few questions from the global populace's conversations instead of giving positive opinions you'd rather join with carol to insult the knowledge people seek for well done

Carol29 04 Oct 2011 21:10

Gary, I am not putting in a long nite here for a troll. I do not mind helping someone that is in a bad state and needs help, so I have stayed up late in the past, untill someone can take over the thread and deal with that persons fears. But this is just a sleep wasting excerise.

NighthawkNZ 04 Oct 2011 21:13

I am not putting in a long nite here for a troll.

Sleep is so over rated… lol

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Gary A 04 Oct 2011 21:18

wow so smart gary so smart

Hey, slow down tiger, I wouldn't go that far. Thanks though.

you would get sensitive over a few questions from the global populace's conversations

Eh?

instead of giving positive opinions you'd rather join with carol to insult the knowledge people seek for well done

Insult you? Why so sensitive? As far as I can see, you started the little snarky comments when it became apparent your NWO/illuminati drivel was getting short shrift. I called you on this, and your response is to call myself and Carol immature. But yeah, we're insulting you!

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r.nysce (guest) 04 Oct 2011 21:37

look guys i had a few questions involving mother earth and devilish people who may have a hidden agenda for it, i dont wanna believe in the nwo crap as well as you but certain shit do exist you guys attacked me with quotes like do i believe in fairies, pixies etc. i just wanted someone else's input on these things im not trying to make a big deal out of it i could care less who gives me feedback on the nwo subject it kept going back and forth because of the name calling towards me lets be positive people and spread knowledge if you know more knowledge, at the end of the day we have to protect old mother earth, i appologize to u gary and carol if i insulted you

TheGreatJuju 04 Oct 2011 21:45

but certain shit do exist

That doesn't mean the so-called "NWO" exists anywhere outside your imagination. That is unless you're one of those guys like our resident TruthSeeker, content to parrot the grandest of woo sites until they indisputably conflict with reality, at which point your modus operandi changes from invoking specific entities and actions to invoking the comfortably vague "certain shit," which you predictably reassign to your previous series of claims.

If the "NWO" hand-wringing persists, this thread has a one-way ticket to Off-Topic unless some clear connection to 2012 is established.

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Re: there's more

Astrogeek 04 Oct 2011 22:20

This thread is officially "off topic", and it appears to be an attempt to discuss stuff that is specifically mentioned in the rules page. We're not a conspiracy site, nor are we a one-size-fits-all debunking site. This site was established to discuss the 2012 doomsday hoax.

I'm moving it to off-topic and locking it.

r.nysce, I'm playing nice here. You may continue to post provided that your posts are relevant and topical to the site. NWO/Illuminati conspiracy theories are not relevant and topical.

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