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Do you agree the evil con men doomsdayers/doomsmerchants should be given guillotine punishment to terrorize innocent people and make their lives living hell…
"To have good soldiers, a nation must always be at war."
- Napoleon Bonaparte
"War is the mother of everything."
-Heraclitus, Greek philosopher (535-475BC)
No…they're still people. Just stupid ones. I certainly understand the anger some people feel from having lost a significant portion of their lives to fear, but it comes down to being the bigger smarter person, and laughing at the next person who wants you to believe them when they say the sky is falling.
A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on.
yes bro, but they are playing with peoples lives thats really sad. I have seen people fearing to death crying like hell even when they see a little more rain than usual or even a single current of lightning..
"To have good soldiers, a nation must always be at war."
- Napoleon Bonaparte
"War is the mother of everything."
-Heraclitus, Greek philosopher (535-475BC)
Tell me who would work out their things by playing with person's life? nobody they are as bad as terrorists…
"To have good soldiers, a nation must always be at war."
- Napoleon Bonaparte
"War is the mother of everything."
-Heraclitus, Greek philosopher (535-475BC)
Yeah they are mental terrorists. But there's nothing anyone can do about it. Unless you want to protest or something and insist they bring back guillotines, there's not too much that can be done with them. It sucks but that's the way it is. The can punish cyber bullies but apparently they can't do the same for these guys cause their crap falls under freedom of speech or expression.
A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on.
It would be awesome if they could go to jail for what they do, but unfortunately they can't.
A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on.
yep as every single one of them has fled away with the money…as every passing day their stupid as hell theories are being debunked.
"To have good soldiers, a nation must always be at war."
- Napoleon Bonaparte
"War is the mother of everything."
-Heraclitus, Greek philosopher (535-475BC)
It would be awesome if they could go to jail for what they do, but unfortunately they can't.
Some might. Patrick Geryl maybe if he gets sued for fraud by anyone who forked out the $30,000 per head he's apparently charging for a place in his African bunker on Dec 21st. We'll see …
(EDIT) Just found this article from March:
Pobody's nerfect
Some countries might have laws against this.
P. Geryl is not from the US.
Depending on countries.
There are laws against bullying.
There are laws against steaming.
There are laws against emotional abuse
The doomtards did the same thing as bullying their victim to depression and even suicide.
The thing is we need to gather evidences right now before they remove the evidences and sites.
Speaking of Patrick, he's advertising on his Facebook for two young women to join his survival group for free…BARF. Someone should screen shot that before he deletes it!
A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on.
What woman will want to sit in a wooden bunker with 50 dirty old man that want to repopulate the world immediately starting at 22 Dec 2012?
I KNOW. Personally, if the world actually were ending, ain't no way I'd be signing up to do that!! GAG. I'd rather take my chances with Armageddon lol
A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on.
he's advertising on his Facebook for two young women to join his survival group for free
Shades of Dr. Strangelove.
He's also advertising places for free! Takeup must have been a bit slack.
I notice he's asking that anyone who wants to survive in Morocco should e-mail him. I thought his survival location was in the southern part of Africa. Perhaps his unsinkable boat wasn't ready in time because now he can take the train to Spain and a short ferry trip across the Strait of Gibraltar. He can come back the same way. I'm sure a return ticket will be cheaper than two singles.
I know I noticed that too!! I was like really? Morocco now? What happened to the bunker and property he already had in Africa? HMMM. And nobody seemed to think it was fishy. They were all "OOH ME ME PICK ME!!"
Sounds a little too Manson familyish.
I shall call them the geryl family.
A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth can get its boots on.
Guillotine, no, but making them liable for the damage they did yes.
The best thing people could do is group together and file lawsuits against these people.
Also not every doomsday promoter is living in the US.
Some countries might even have real laws against these people.
A Dead man does not learn the lesson, at least not in a way that we can yet confirm.
Slaying a Doomsdayer only makes them a martyr, and we have enough of them already.
The best weapon to use is intelligence, to make them be seen as the fools they are.
Though I might add that should their actions lead to the senseless death of another person, then by rights, that Doomsdayer had best be held accountable for their actions.
Nothing I would love to see more than the doomtards being purged from the gene pool, but sadly, it takes two to tango. These doomtards would have no power if people would simply just stop listening to them — Tell them to STFU when they start to open their big stupid mouths.
well it's pretty much a circlejerk anyways so… wouldn't help that much
Good way of putting it.
It is a lot like when people complain about Wal-Mart. Sure I hate Wal-Mart and do not want one in my neighborhood.
But the problem is, the only reason Wal-Marts pop up everywhere every day is because people, (yes, even many of those that say they hate Wal-Mart and everything they stand for) shop there.
If you want Wal-Mart to go away, stop shopping there, period!! Same with doomtards; if you REALLY want them to STFU, (lord knows I do,) stop listening to them, watching their videos, visiting their site, etc.
Like you said, it is a circlejerk, i.e., cycle. It just needs to be broken, and it can be. It just takes more than one person, that's all.
If we put people to jail they're proponents would start making up conspiracy theories. Best thing we can do is make web sites like this to debunk them. Personally i want to put jail every people who makes doomsday to their job.
Give them a piece of their own medicine. Like hunt them down, put them all on a deserted island and threaten (just threaten, not actually do it ofcourse) to blow up the joint yelling: 'so, you wanted an apocalypse? Well, here it is, your own personal apocalypse, BANG!' Talking about the punishment fit the crime.
You cannot hunt them down physically.
But you can spam their blogs, FB, Youtube clips the same way they spam other peoples blogs.
Ridicule, and scaring them that time is up for them and they are about to become the laughing stock of the world because the promoted the 2012 and it failed! Don't threaten them with real physical danger or directly. But tell them that in less than a month they will be exposed as frauds, liars and creepy guys and they will have a lot if pissed off followers. Also that they will lose their friends that they scammed for fun.
Don't waste time in debating them, just every day tell them that they have 27 days left until they are exposed as fraud. 26 days left when they will be exposed as frauds, 25 days left that they will be exposed as frauds. Use the same count down trick they use. Make up imaginary story's telling that Nibiru is failing. When they claim they did not put a date on it, ignore that and keep on pretending that they did claim the end would be on 21 Dec 2012 (In reality they did put a date on it, they are just covering their tracks because it is very clear that nothing is going to happen). Use the exact same techniques these people did on you. If they explain why Nibiru does not show up, ignore that and make up a new claim that shows that Nibiru is not coming. Call these people sheeple and tell them that you are searching for the truth. Yell at them that they provide disinformation.
With a little bit of luck you will attract more followers that will question these people and these people also start to fight back when they realize that they have been scammed.
People stop being a victim and fight these scammers and doomtards back. Take back your life. And with a bit of luck you will also save other people from harm right now.
Just wait til after the 21st, and then watch chaos unfold as those that got pulled and tricked and lied to will begin the hunt (not all of them will but there will be that few wanting a piece of these cranks). Geryl and all these other cranks will be living in fear for quite some time after this year, knowing there will be people after them! And on top of that, karma may eventually meet them with some bad news too, for those unlucky to run into it :)
And you know whats crazy, they put those guys in jail in europe, forgive me for not remembering the country, for not predicting the earthquake that killed dozens of people. These scientist were held responsible for not predicting mother nature, then why can't the government or officials go after those who wrongly predict the future for profit
It should be Illegal because some people have actually committed suicide over this nonsense.
And some people have committed suicide after breaking up with their partner, so lets make love illegal.
Where are the lines? Where does 'having an opinion' end and 'fear mongering' begin?
You can have a case for fraud if someone knowingly sells unnecessary goods or doesn't deliver on promises or whatever, but in many cases we simply aren't dealing with those kinds of people. We're dealing with people who genuinely believe the rubbish coming out of their mouths. That's not illegal. It's just rather silly.
Being ONE dirty old man in a bunker with 50 women to repopulate the world wouldn't be so bad…:0
Yuck! The man or men should at least not be old and creepy. I guess it's all in your point of view. It would probably be enjoyable for the dirty old man. Geryl is very creepy, btw. Hopefully he won't get anyone dumb enough to take him up on it.
Have to agree with rankflash on this. These people have a responsiblity for the chaos and mental anguish they cause. Ok, ok, maybe not cut off their heads, but putting them in prison for many many years and taking away their assets to distribute to charity would be a good start. Freedom of speech comes with responsiblity. You don't yell "FIRE" in a theater without getting into big big trouble. What these doomsdayers are doing is the same thing, often worse.
Except they aren't in a crowded theater. They're on the Internet, in bookstores and, in some cases, at venues where people pay to hear apocalyptic bullshit. Disclaimers abound, and I've made my opinion on this known in other threads. Criminalizing doomsday rhetoric is a can of worms that I don't think most people would care for in practice.
They are not in a crowded theater, but they are getting the same reaction. It was simply a similie. It is responsiblity for your actions. They choose the action of creating the reaction by their decision to lie about the doomsday crap as opposed to the person in the theater creating the reaction by yelling fire. Same thing, different venue. Either way, you are choosing your words to get a certain reaction.
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