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Hi now,
Since all is this 2012's thing is over (i admit i was pretty scared and that this forum greatly helped me to relieve my anxiety), i propose that we elect the "best" crank's theory for 21/12/2012. So, in other words, what were in your mind the stupidiest and silliest 2012's thesis ?
Merry Christmas to all of you !
Nibiru hiding behind the sun. NASA hiding Nibiru with gigantic mirrors (okay I just exaggerated that one lol). Anything related to that word. I don't know why they used the word Nibiru anyways… that originally meant Jupiter.
http://www.2012hoax.org/nibiru
It's really the dumbest part of this fraud… and it was all based on a lousy interpretation anyways.
There was no claim more absurd than these ones:
Pane, definitely Pane Andov's theory for me.
The zombie one was pretty out there, but all in all I think the award must go to a certain mr Geryl. Not only did he provide a doomsday prediction, he actually concoted two stories, and had an unbeatable list of failures in the lead up to the ultimate failure on the 21st.
Arise mr Geryl and be recognised!
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
And the point of this would be … what, exactly?
2012Hoax's purpose was to save lives and to help people who were terrified have a normal life for the first time in years. You managed to get it done 'way beyond what anyone would have expected when you started 3 years ago. This petty, childish game of "I told you so" is unworthy of you all. Also gives a reason to question your motives in your new site you'll be directing people to. Will you be making that site to really help people, or to be able to feel superior and to keep on calling others "idiots" and "doomtards" etc?
Remember debunkers aren't infallible either. Do you want to be talked about this way in the times when you mess up on your new site?
This petty, childish game of "I told you so" is unworthy of you all.
Who cares? We have worked so hard, now it is time to have a laugh at the nutters that promoted that stuff.
Scientist are not these types of boring people that are always serious you know. They have fun too.
Must be a difference of perspective. My world is partly one of helping peasant farmers who are being forced off their land by multinationals backed by corrupt govt's. And of young women who got tricked by human traffickers and are now getting AIDS in brothels. Both of those groups commit suicide too. There's no website to debunk their fears because their concerns are real.
So you'll pardon me if I can't understand why any intelligent person would spend 2 seconds figuring out which 2012 doomsday claim to give an award to.
Are you jealous?
Of those peasant farmers and poor young women? No.
Of people who can't come up with a better use of their time than thinking about a question as stupid and as self demeaning as this one? No.
Okay wait a second… how on earth is this question stupid or self demeaning? We were discussing the most ridiculous ideas that these hoaxsters had. I'm sorry that we can't because we need to subscribe to political correctness. Get a grip please.
And this whole topic is more like giving a razzie award. The worst of the worst.
Of people who can't come up with a better use of their time than thinking about a question as stupid and as self demeaning as this one? No.
Yeah, sorry about that. I mean how dare we take the piss out of people who tormented people with tales of idiocy. Clamber off your pedestal for two minutes and lighten the fu#k up, seriously!
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
@paddymagee,
So you'll pardon me if I can't understand why any intelligent person would spend 2 seconds figuring out which 2012 doomsday claim to give an award to.
If our having a little bit of fun after years of this battle offends you, I suggest you go somewhere else.
I've defended you and refused to block you when you started fights with other users. Why on Earth do you want to even be here when you are so humorless and aggressive?
Remember debunkers aren't infallible either. Do you want to be talked about this way in the times when you mess up on your new site?
Dude, lighten up, it's just a few of us giving examples of some of the absurd claims we've heard around here. There's a difference between making a genuine mistake and putting out claims that border on the insane.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Come on Paddy, stop defending the fools who perpetuated these blatant lies. Those who believed in these absurd claims should move on and realize just how naive and foolish it was. The predictions had no scientific basis and preyed upon those who were not wanting to use their common sense. Those who started these predictions, and those who defended them, should feel foolish and need to crawl back under the rocks they came from. Those who suffer from anxiety issues are thankful for this site and were helped to see the absurdity of such predictions. What you fail to realize is that there never was anything in any way at all to indicate that any of the lies ,of the 2012 hoaxes, was real. It was actually quite obvious that the claims were made up. Unfortunately there are people who suffer from anxiety and needed help to get past that so they could see the truth. Then there were those who wanted to be "right" and defended the absurdity by becoming combative. Those are the ones who will now come on here and get angry when we laugh at how absurd the predictions were. Do not get mad at us that you fell for the claims. Be thankful we were here to help educate those who were falling for them.
You should take note of many of the people who were really suffering from the anxiety caused by these claims and by those who were militantly defending those claims. Those people suffering from anxiety came here and sought out help. They were given help and they were able to see, for the most part, how pathetic the predictions were. These sites serve the purpose of debunking and showing how asinine these predictions are. Pretending they are anything but absurd serves no purpose. I had too many people make threats to kill me over giving scientific reasons that the predictions made no sense for me to have any sympathy for those who made these predictions or for those who wanted them to be real. My sympathy is reserved for those who suffered because of these predictions, not for those who don't want to hear they were wrong so they come on here complaining about it.
Come on Paddy, stop defending the fools who perpetuated these blatant lies.
Where did I "defend" them? I said that the name calling diminishes all of you who accomplished so much.
what namecalling? The people creating these predictions are idiots. They are foolish. They hurt people. What name calling is there in being truthful? Please show us where there is name calling happening. And no, calling people crackpots, idiots, or loons, is not name calling when you are referencing something as absurd as the 2012 hoaxes. Not only that, but many of those who started these claims did so for purely financial gain. They preyed upon many people. How would you reference these people? Should we be really careful not to offend them? The facts are in. They are pathetic little worms. Those defending their theories are foolish and lack the ability to think critically. I have no lost love for people who have commited the acts which led to so many others having such anxiety and monetary concerns.
the best crackpot theory to me was the asteroid destroying the moon on 9/30/12. from weeklyworldnews. :I also the 2nd most stupid claim i heard was a fake prophecy by nostradamus. hint-> Oppa Gangnam style!
They were all so preposterous that it's hard to say. The Earth exploding struck me as particularly ridiculous. Then there is always the black hole at the center of the galaxy sucking us in.
I agree with Alene, there are so many that it is hard to choose.
I'd have to say any theory that cited the Bible as a reference. Any of you who have been here for a while know how I feel about that kind of reference….. Anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you! You are an amazing group of logical thinkers!
People are not disturbed by things, but by the view they take of them - Epictetus
The bible references are the hardest to debunk.
But it is also the one that failed every single time.
Every time that someone mentioned the bible, then I got this facepalm.
It was also an indication that his prediction would fail.
That gangnam style thing was a joke wasn't it? I refuse to believe anyone anywhere really believed that!
Gangnam style was bad.
The constant claim that Nibiru was hiding behind the sun was bad. In all seriousness, just how long were we supposed to believe that a planet had parked itself behind the sun and was waiting until Dec 21, at which point I assume it would jump from a velocity of 0 kph to one that would place it either on or near Earth almost immediately.
The claim about Chemtrails. There were multiple claims on what the so-called "chemtrails" were for. One of the most idiotic was that they were blocking out Nibiru so that we could not see it. How on earth anybody could believe that all the governments of the world were somehow creating enough chemtrails worldwide, at all times, to block out a single planet is something I was having a difficult time understanding.
Anything that required all governments to work in unison to keep a secret from the whole world.
Now that I think about it, all the predictions were on the high end of absurd.
The claim about Chemtrails. There were multiple claims on what the so-called "chemtrails" were for. One of the most idiotic was that they were blocking out Nibiru so that we could not see it. How on earth anybody could believe that all the governments of the world were somehow creating enough chemtrails worldwide, at all times, to block out a single planet is something I was having a difficult time understanding.
Yes, I think that one gets my vote as well.
Hundreds of thousands, or maybe even millions of planes flying worldwide 24/7 to hide Nibiru from the entire world population, from every possible angle, including over the oceans to hide it from shipping and all the millions of people involved in it keeping quiet about it …
Pobody's nerfect
Nibiru has to top my list. There was/is so much astronomical ignorance associated with it: It can only be seen from the south pole (which is why the South Pole Telescope was built) until it's too late. It cannot be seen with the naked eye because brown/red dwarfs emit in the infrared.
The most pernicious claim is that astronomers are being murdered to keep them from talking about Nibiru. As if an astronomer can't just get on the internet and write about it. They say Eugene Shoemaker was killed in a car crash in Australia under suspicious circumstances all the while ignoring that his wife was in the car at the time.
Yeah, forgot to mention the murdered astronomers. Good lord. Listening to these people you want to shake them and tell them to wake up. Ignoring not only Shoemaker, but also how many people they mentioned simply died of natural causes. I recall hearing some yahoo claim that it was simply crazy to think somebody could die of esophegial cancer in such a short time span. Are these people as stupid as they sound? It is common knowledge that you often do not find out you have cancer until you are close to death. Not only that, but cancer can kill you very quickly. These people had such a bad habit of throwing out all the facts because they simply did not fit their agenda. They knew full well what the facts were, but like always did, they only took one fact, that a person of interest had died, and added their own sinister background to what happened.
It's mindboggling. The first question that should pop into your head is "how large is the sample pool?" After I first read that claim I Googled "IAU" and within seconds discovered the IAU has 10,000+ members. Using the extremely optimistic death rate of 100 per 100,000 (from the 30-34 year old white race death rate table) you should expect 10 deaths per year for members of the IAU. Since the crackpot's death list goes back to some astronomer who died in the 1970s their death list is woefully short.
There were actually people who, while not believing anything bad would happen, actually did believe Nostradamus made the Psy prophecy (even though it was dated as having been said the day Nostradamus was born. Lol So I'm going with Gangnam style or Planet Nibiru.
