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				<title>Re: piddle your time away talk talk talk</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>tyler maret</wikidot:authorName>								<content:encoded>
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						 <p>seriously what is this dudes point</p> 
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				<title>Re: piddle your time away talk talk talk</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Tod, you seem to be suffering from the serious delusion that you make sense.</p> <p>&lt;can you see Gary Farmer as Nobody moving his jaw like a nutcracker? &gt; Huh? What?</p> <p>&lt;I would like know who among you enters this site after reading the introduction page which states that 2012 prognostications are false.&gt; Here you have a valid point. If someone reads the opening line of a blog stating &quot;All New York Yankees players are stinky meanie-heads&quot; then you have to expect that you will only get two types of responses: 1) Those who disagree 2) Smart people that know they ARE Meanie-heads</p> <p>&lt;How does this conversation interest you? &quot;Joe's prediction for the future is a lie.&quot; how pathetic.&gt; Enlighten us, oh great one, as to exactly HOW this is pathetic? When 2012hoax makes a statement, like &quot;Nancy Lieder is a beer short of a six-pack&quot; we follow it up with evidence, e.g. &quot;she gets messages in candy&quot;. This is diametrically opposed to your method of saying &quot;how pathetic&quot; and giving no evidence that it is.</p> <p>&lt;To top it off, it smells like the author(s) here have extended the premise of this site to include an attack on some group of people who are either conspiring or from the same ideological group—- A group or subculture which some concerned &quot;scientists&quot; or Christians (pick your religion) have chosen to spend time attacking with this website?&gt; Do you mean &quot;nutters&quot;? Yeah, we target nutters. What's your point? It seems the easiest way to refute an argument by someone to merely point out that the person that came up with it is insane. Maybe that's just me, but if my broker wore a beanie with a propeller, I might just go find another broker.</p> <p>&lt;how about a gravity bong and a night at the bowling alley?&gt; I will bring the chips.</p> <p>&lt;&quot;how to talk to your kids about 2012&quot;? I would like to know whose 'child' has an existential crisis because he/she cannot endure the thought that the world could end at any time? sounds more like a scenario where some religious parents cannot bear the thought of another person, via some medium, suggesting a future which does not fit in these parents' belief system(s).&gt; I doubt any of us care how people raise their kids. Okay, maybe some do, but I certainly don't. However, I do feel terrible, knowing that the 2012 hoax is out there and some kids believe it. Perhaps I don't get your point here, as I pretty much didn't get your point at all, but could YOU live with yourself if even ONE child hurt themselves when you could have said something to help? 2012 is a hoax, dude.</p> 
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				<title>Re: piddle your time away talk talk talk</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hello, Nikki.</p> <p>Tod is what I refer to as a &quot;Troll&quot;, simply someone who lives for nothing but to stir things up a bit and then leave.</p> <p>To help your visualization of a &quot;Troll&quot;;</p> <img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/carlos57775/SCobc6EL_hI/AAAAAAAABys/RG0y66Z3ZDY/s288/Don%27t%20feed%20the%20troll.jpg" alt="Don%27t%20feed%20the%20troll.jpg" class="image" />
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				<title>Re: piddle your time away talk talk talk</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hi Nikki,<br /> I'm not sure any of us knows what Tod is going on about. It seems that he just wants to rant at us. Don't pay any attention to ranters who have nothing to back them up. That goes for all the doomsday proponents as well. There is absolutely no real science or evidence behind any of their claims. They are just making money selling doomsday books and &quot;survival supplies.&quot; When 2012 has passed and the world is still here, they will just tack on a new date and be back in business.</p> 
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				<title>Re: piddle your time away talk talk talk</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Tyler maret</wikidot:authorName>								<content:encoded>
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						 <p>we are attacking a group of people i like to call &quot;the doomsayers&quot; we're attacking them because they are attacking the world with fear we are retaliating with fact and reality</p> 
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>No Nikki,<br /> the world will not end on 12/21/2012. It is a big scam cooked up by various people just to get some money.<br /> As for the allignment on that date, what people fail to tell you is, That happens on the same date every<br /> year. That is why 12/21 is the shortest day of the year. People figure if they drive as much fear as they can into<br /> people, the richer they become. Dont let anyone scare you. Just give it a good laugh. Read through everything<br /> on this site. Plus a couple other posts I did, under the name ryan stephens. Should help.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>wots this guy tod on about?? i dont get his point&#8230;i keep re reading it but i still dont get it. Is he saying he thinks the world WILL end or wot?? its bothering me coz the whole 2012 thing scares me.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Tod we all know (or at least the christains her know) that the world could end at any time the purpose of this webpage is to show people that the 2012 PHENOMONA is false so what if the world could end at anytime the christai n philosophy is that God would save the followers of Jesus and uh&#8230;&#8230;STOP SCARING PEOPLE</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Simon&#8212; Did you know that El Chupacabra is real? I don't have proof! But by George, it is <strong>real</strong>.</p> <p>Now that I have that out of my system, I'm going to go get a latte and watch a cartoon with my niece. :)~</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Childish much, Tod?</p> <p>The fact that you're actually taking time from <strong>your</strong> life to complain about something that you completely disagree with is idiocy in itself.</p> <p>It's sort of like saying; &quot;You aren't worth my time! How ever, I will spend 15 minutes of my time writing a complaint to you about yourself! Take that!&quot;</p> <p>Ignorance must be bliss.<br /> -</p> <p>Our intentions aren't to challenge fools to a foolish game, nor are our intentions to purposely cut anyone down.<br /> Our intentions are simply to help others better their understanding of the fictitious claims regarding 2012 and to help educate the younger people such as children and young teens.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>So what you are saying is that you don't need evidence for something that sounds completliy crazy?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>read my post again. you got it completely wrong.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>this is all I have to say:</p> <p>religion: no answer<br /> science: no answer<br /> New Age: no answer<br /> motivational speakers: no answer</p> <p>I don't have an ultimate answer about how to teach children in a school setting except that they need a balance of all things&#8212;including practical arts and skills which have nothing to do with media or computers. They should be taught, most importantly to question any authority and at least attempt to triangulate their way towards &quot;truth.&quot; A teacher need not spend any time entertaining questions about some movie or books which offer a (disagreeable) picture of the future when metaphor, inductive reasoning, hypothesis, doubt, research, and a variety of physical activities are part of their every day curriculum.</p> <p>What if someone reliable were to tell me that the onslaught of sensational images of destruction, desolation, and death<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">or books/games/websites</span>truly undermine the education a school is trying to give to its students? or undermine society? I would say that even a &quot;reliable&quot; source has missed something about our culture, or a segment of our society whose concerns and fears cannot be quelled by scientific or religious comfort food.</p> <p>thing is, the family unit in the U.S. is weak and there's nothing you can do about it unless you're a father who can teach his own son some skills to use throughout life (for example) and always be accepting and loving no matter what happens.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Astrogeek</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>334222</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>&quot;Science&quot; says absolutely nothing supporting the &quot;2012 doomsday&quot; nonsense. Quite the opposite in fact. Your rant about ecology has nothing to do with this website. Perhaps you should read it first.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>But we need science for all this 2012 because those week claims it have for support is'nt enough.</p> <p>You need evidence to prove theories that are about the end of the world.</p> <p>Extra ordinary things needs extra ordinary evidence.</p> <p>/Simon</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>why do you need a prognostication? people don't even need science to see what's taking place right now with ecology on this planet. the science keeps telling everyone what they're denying or ignoring and where is that going?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>What I have to say is scattered throughout this website. What do you have to say?</p> <p>The only people we attack are the ones who are scaring people with this crap. If you don't find that to be a concern, then move along, there's nothing for you here.</p> <p>Since we don't sell anything, I really don't care if you decide to stick around or not.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>and there <em>you</em> are. I know you have <em>nothing</em> to say.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>and, yes, intellectuals or even pseudo-intellectuals with argumentation skills make a living off mountains of words every year. the world is full of more shit nowadays than 50 years ago while steel is made in China and men drink lattes. so what? figure it out.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Well I don't really get what you are saying, but if you want to belvie all those 2012 stories then go a head, but can you give me all your money dec 20&#160;2012?</p> <p>And why sould we belive stories with no sience to back them up?</p> <p>Then you migth belive this predition to.</p> <p>''On June 14&#160;2010, all the chinese people will reach a higher level of knowlege and rule the world''</p> <p>No but if you don't belive this site then don't spend your time comment on it.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>and yet, here you are, piddling your time away, talk talk talking.</p> <p>Go figure.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>can you see Gary Farmer as Nobody moving his jaw like a nutcracker? I would like know who among you enters this site after reading the introduction page which states that 2012 prognostications are false. How does this conversation interest you? &quot;Joe's prediction for the future is a lie.&quot; how pathetic. To top it off, it smells like the author(s) here have extended the premise of this site to include an attack on some group of people who are either conspiring or from the same ideological group&#8212;- A group or subculture which some concerned &quot;scientists&quot; or Christians (pick your religion) have chosen to spend time attacking with this website?</p> <p>how about a gravity bong and a night at the bowling alley?</p> <p>&quot;how to talk to your kids about 2012&quot;? I would like to know whose 'child' has an existential crisis because he/she cannot endure the thought that the world could end at any time? sounds more like a scenario where some religious parents cannot bear the thought of another person, via some medium, suggesting a future which does not fit in these parents' belief system(s).</p> 
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