I'd rather recommend this old humble argument:
No scientific evidence exists (up to this date) for any impending unordinarity in 2012.

There is, of course, some list of things scientists are for now unable to foresee, - like unexpected mass nudity in North America (what does 'great transformation' originally mean?), - but I doubt that either anyone else could somehow know for sure when exactly such things could happen.

Maya could not have technical means to make forecasts much better than modern people have since the launch of Hubble Space Telescope, Astronomy Picture of the Day, SOHO, Near Earth Object Program, Telescopes in Education.

I've watched ''Knowing'', and yes it is pretty bad. :)

Over the holidays, I took a "bull by the horns" approach and watched Knowing. While the movie was LAUGHABLY BAD, it's worth noting that there was a special feature on the disc that goes into a surprisingly rational, scientific discourse about the whole notion of Armageddon. The primary thrust of which, was that the whole concept of an "end of time" is almost purely a Western construct and perversion of traditional stories and myths. They further go on to state that 2012, specifically, is nothing more than the end of a calendar cycle, and that the Mayans never had any special designs for that date.

Most reassuring of all about this particular featurette? Every last one of the scientists interviewed seemed to be grinning and some on the verge of laughter at the whole notion of the end of the world occurring any sooner than 4,500,000,000 years in the future.

Four billion years from now? I'm gonna go ahead and file that under "not an issue."

Again, I went off topic, but hey…I'm just so good at it.

Their calendar, amongs other things, proves that Mayans were quite far away from understanding how things really work. Looks much like those times when geocentric model of the world was preferrable.

With our modern Gregorian calendar, we may be sure that December 21 will be a winter day, be it in 2012 or 18000. But if you count days according to Julian calendar, the date December 21, 18000 falls right into middle of summer.

In Mayan calendar, synchronization with the Sun and seasons was so approximate, that calendar's winter slips into middle of summer by some 732 years! It means 1462 Mayan years are really 1463 Solar (factual) years. If we'd use Mayan calendar to celebrate Christmas, it could be in winter around 1800, then in spring around 2200, and then in summer around 2600.

Knowing this, will you admit that some ancient monk (zealot / priest) could with such a flawed understanding of nature be able to make predictions which come true to timing so precise, if to come at all?
People who state "yes, he certainly could!" either don't pay enough attention to the matter, or simply are not honest.

Happy new year to you all. :)

I see you've gotten some good responses so far. I just wanted to let you know that there is nothing abnormal about this situation at all.

We tend to take on the attitudes of people around us. This is what makes the "2012 hoax" so powerful in schools, is that it travels by word of mouth, and it is something that in some way appeals to kids, they tend to believe it.

When you are in a group of people who think "A is true", you may start out thinking "A is false" but after a few weeks of arguing with them, it somehow becomes easier to think "A is true" instead.

So, recognize that fact, and counter it. Realize that what you are feeling is normal psychologically.

Whenever you read statements like: "Modern profane science is the degenerate descendant of an ancient sacred science that long ago perceived and embraced many dimensions of reality, including supra-sensory realms that lead into a higher integrative consciousness that is not anti-intellect, but transcends the intellect and is within reach of all human beings." (See the link on this site to John Major Jenkins) or a photo of the guy writing it with a "halo" effect from lighting techniques (see the picture of Mr. Jenkins), you know they are more full of themselves and enamored with their creative writing styles than science, fact or faith.

"Supra-sensory realms" and "higher integrative consciousness" indeed. That's "BS" - baloney sausage! He should have stuck to writing sappy greeting cards. He wouldn't have made as much money, but he would have done more good.

Don't let these 2012ers sidetrack you with fear. Remember the words of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Take a look at the wikipedia articles on the Mayan calendar, too. They never predicted the end of time, nor is the date on the calendar considered by the Mayans and their descendants to be the "end" of anything other than a cycle, whereupon a new cycle was to begin. In fact, the Mayans also believed the previous cycle before this one involved the creation of mankind made of wood. Sounds more like Pinocchio to me, no disrespect to the Mayans.

Transformationists base their theories on less facts (if any facts) than the doomsday guys. And if the doomsday foundation in a bunch of crap, than what does that say about these theories.

And when I look on the proponents list and read about there claims I get a bitt confusied about the whole 2012 subject. For example John Major Jenkins, he is an expert whitin Mayans and such and he claims that a transformation of some kind ill take place, how do we prove him wrong? And I picked him just as an example, my point is how do we prove all those claims from the proponents?

As for planet X or nibiru, it could have been seen and tracked by the Mayans…if it existed, which no proof exists that it ever has.
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Every calendar has its cycles, the completion of one piktun is rather meaningless. Think of milleniums, or centuries, or what have you for the Gregorian. The Zodiac calendar has its own 2150 year cycles. Finally, Hindu mythology identifies four states of the world, each as a cycle, etc… Nothing has happened before, nothing will happen again
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Pseudoscience theories are based on way too many assumptions to even be feasible. Its a load of crap.
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Happy holidays