The reader can see for themselves the ideals of Ghost, as well as the process of his ideals being debunked.
They can also clearly see that Ghost refuses to respond to key points, as well as provide any valid evidence to support his claims. Therefore, this is moot and it's going nowhere.

Astro and Tick can decide what they want done with the posts as a whole, but as for me, I'm not letting this pile of garbage continue.

For Ghost:
Any further threads with the topic of something that was already brought up in this thread will be removed.

Tsk, tsk.

It took me 2 weeks to find the right orbital elements for a Nibiru coming under the plane of the planets crosses Earth at 90 degree angle and goes back up above the plane.

Earth has a speed of 30.999 km/s at that moment, 5 Jupiter mass Nibiru would have 42.60 km/s crossing at 90 degree Angle. So the influence is pretty short.

Now I am trying to find the orbital elements parallel with the planet of the planets but against the rotation. This way it should have minimal gravitational influence on any of our planets but this orbit is nearly impossible!
It completely misses Earth because the attraction from our planets changes the Nibiru orbit and when Nibiru comes at 42.xx speed and Earth has a 30.999 m/s speed in the other way that is 83 km/s speed of crossing it barely gets any time to interact with Earth.
And worse the timing is so precise that in 99.999999% of the time it never gets close enough by Earth to have any influence. Even if you have a lucky shot, next time it gets around it is a 100% sure case that it misses Earth completely.

There is another orbit where Nibiru would come from below the planets plane, goes Above the plane to it's closest point to the sun and goes back. In this case all Planets get tilted very badly and stays tilted. Since all planet are in the same plane, it indicates Nibru would have never been here before.

The only orbit that would have the longest influence of Nibiru on our Earth to have an effect is when it travels in the plane in the same direction with the planets. But in this case all planets orbits becomes elliptical since Nibiru has a longer time to gave a gravitational effect on them. 42.6-30.999 = 11.6 km/s. But again no sign that Nibiru was here before because all planet orbits are way to circular.

I plan Youtube clips with the real numbers and orbital elements. But that is not for this week. I also have a life you know ;-)

When a species evolves, typically, the species it was originally dies off.

There you have it folks. The existence of the Miniature Schnauzer proves that wolves do not exist, and my tabby cat is rock solid evidence that all the lions and tigers I've seen in zoos and on television have been government disinformation holograms.

I knew a creationist talking point would appear here sooner or later.

Elliott, you have my "aye."

All those in favour of archiving this mess say 'Aye'…

Aye!

Meanwhile I have been doing more calculations.
And finding orbital elements for one parallel with orbital plane of the planets… Still not got it right.

But this thread, for all concerned, is 400 posts too long. We're not getting anywhere and we won't get anywhere, especially if the goalposts change every time we come to check it.

I agree, time to close the topic.

backed up by mountains of circumstantial evidence.

Which you do not provide over the course of over 450 posts.

I, and I'm sure many other users here have no problem 'debating' you on every subject you've brought up in this thread. The problem is that this is not a debate. This is far from a debate. This is you spewing your unfounded garbage across umpteen hundred posts, and when asked - on multiple occasions - by the likes of obaeyens and Astro to 'skim the fat' and produce the simplest of responses you instead ignore them and set up the next stage of your asinine plans, whatever they may be.

I put it to you that you do not have evidence, you do not give a damn about this subject and you are only here to stir up some flames for gits and shiggles. To put it more succinctly, "put up or shut up".

This thread concerns Nibiru and it's orbital characteristics. By extension it's size, it's density and so on, sure. It does not concern the Bible, the Ark of the Covenant, Area 51, Atlantis, Apophis, Evolution, Genetic Engineering, Gold mining, HAARP, instantly destroyable hard drives…

As I say, many users are more than capable of continuing this elsewhere, under the premise that you are capable of understanding what a debate is in the first place. But this thread, for all concerned, is 400 posts too long. We're not getting anywhere and we won't get anywhere, especially if the goalposts change every time we come to check it.

All those in favour of archiving this mess say 'Aye'…

I want facts:

* What is the mass of Nibiru?
* What is the period of Nibiru?
* Is Nibiru's period always 3600 years?
* How close must Nibiru get in order to have a influence on Earth that is noticeable.
* Where is Nibiru now and the next 10 days; I want coordinates that can be checked by taking my own telescope out this night.
* Show me pictures of Nibiru that are taken over a period of days so I can see it's movement across the stars and calculate the orbit
* What are the orbital elements?
* How far is Nibiru now?
* How close will Nibiru get and what date and time?

* What is the mass of Nibiru?
* What is the period of Nibiru?
* Is Nibiru's period always 3600 years?
* How close must Nibiru get in order to have a influence on Earth that is noticeable.
* Where is Nibiru now and the next 10 days; I want coordinates that can be checked by taking my own telescope out this night.
* Show me pictures of Nibiru that are taken over a period of days so I can see it's movement across the stars and calculate the orbit
* What are the orbital elements?
* How far is Nibiru now?
* How close will Nibiru get and what date and time?

However, I do not think that the ghost person is a New Age believer as much as someone who simply believes because a bunch of other people do also. As you probably know, there is an underground of people that mixes UFOs, aliens, elites, gov'ts into an unholy mix of fiction which is presented as fact.

However, didn't we just get off the 2012 tract into general weird stuff that people believe?

So I ask the question again this time I want facts:

• What is the mass of Nibiru?
• What is the period of Nibiru?
• Is Nibiru's period always 3600 years?
• How close must Nibiru get in order to have a influence on Earth that is noticeable.
• Where is Nibiru now and the next 10 days; I want coordinates that can be checked by taking my own telescope out this night.
• Show me pictures of Nibiru that are taken over a period of days so I can see it's movement across the stars and calculate the orbit
• What are the orbital elements?
• How far is Nibiru now?
• How close will Nibiru get and what date and time?

Give me real numbers that can be cross checked or it is not called science but quackery.

All of this brings up the inherent problem with faith here. Faith for the Ark, faith in Religion, faith in Nibiru. There is no difference. You're still hoping that your faith is true despite countless pieces of evidence against it.

More proof you have no understanding of science.

OBJECTION!

Sorry, but in the early 1990's, the excavation of the Sphinx did have a tunnel beneath the Left Arm, but it was a strict dead end and did not go any farther down, nor did it lead anywhere. No chambers, nothing.

The theory of there being hidden chambers beneath the Sphinx has been so righteously trashed, it's hysterical. Ghost, go to Egypt and see the current projects. They're not even bothering with the Sphinx these days, but the areas around it. They're yielding far superior discoveries.

Go ahead and revise the location of where the Ark of the Covenant is, if you must. But you already just brutalized yourself for saying it was under the left front arm, which is >exactly< where a good deal of excavation in the early 90's happened.

Of course you could claim it's been found and never opened, right? Of course.

And you just said we resemble >monkies<?! Okay. Wow. Uh. You really, really, REALLY know nothing.

Kindly self ban yourself, permanently. You really just handed me a righteous victory.

You kind of need to proof read before you post. Now answer my questions, sir.

By the way, you stole this theory from Edgar Cayce, whom said this chamber would be discovered within a few years from 1941. He specifically said it would be a few years from 1941. It has been 69 years since then, and that is not 'a few'.

So kindly state where beneath the sphinx this chamber is.

Please answer carefully, because you're in my territory now of expertise!

And be careful how you answer this one~!

Really. I thought we had 2 more years to wait.

Unfounded claim upon unfounded claim upon unfounded claim. Adding new, bizzaroid claims on top of your original one does not count as providing support for it. Ask any debate teacher if you don't believe me.

You should really heed the words of Dr. Phil Plait, who once stated, "The Universe is cool enough without making up crap about it".

They say it 3 times larger than earth, with a similar gravity.

Not 3 times larger in radius, 3-4 times the Earth Mass.
The radius and gravity is depending on the density.
If it were rocky like Earth the radius would be about 1.4 Earth radius and about 1.4 Earth gravity.

They're lying about the whole thing.

They are not lying, it is what the numbers show.
The numbers might be inaccurate and these will be fine tuned when more research is done.

The temperature is pretty easy, you know the stars temperature, you know the distance from the star so you can calculate the orbit range where the temperatures are within range for water to exist in fluid form.

The calculation of the mass is also pretty easy, a planet this mass should have an atmosphere.

The hard part was in finding the planet in the noise, so you need to get as much samples as possible to find the signal of the planet.

Oh ok, and thats not suspicious? He says theres a 100% chance for life on this planet. Not a good chance. Not a good possibility, but a 100% chance.

Scientists are very bad in PR. And he also had a poor choice of words.
He should have used "near 100%" chance of life.

No, they said, that without a doubt, this planet has life on it.

No one claimed that it is intelligent and evolved life.
A bacteria is also called life!

Yet, we're focusing on a planet 20 light years away.

Currently Kepler is studying thousands of stars that could contain Earth like planets.
It is a 3 year mission. I am actually surprised that this science team was first in their claims! I expected Kepler team to be first.

Any good group of scientists would put all of thier effort in studying our own planets,

How many scientists are in this world?
A small team of a tens of scientists does not matter when there are hundreds of thousands of scientists studying other things. Probably thousands of scientists are studying Earth in every way they can. Many Earth monitoring satellites are specially put up there.

Well, thats my cue. Consider me self-banned.

How noble, after dozens upon dozens of refuted posts. Your cue was about a week ago; you just missed it.